Imagine being to braindead you say trans people are going through a “genocide”. You have no idea what a real genocide looks like cunt you’re literally not in danger of dying neither am I
oh honey we’re on step 7 of the 10 stages of genocide but I can understand why you wouldn’t notice considering you don’t talk to anyone in real life and you don’t leave your house and 99% of your interactions with other trans people are just you screaming abuse at them from the safety of your blog in your mommy’s house
by the time someone like you finally catches on and has an adequate amount of concern I’ll be long dead along with many other disabled trans Americans who live under constant threat of mass forced institutionalization
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An ableism that sometimes really pops out of people is allergies (+including gluten free either due to intolerance or esp celiac). Like people can be pro disability advocacy but then be like ew people are cringe allergic to stuff and make.it up for attention and are weird because of it and im.like hey man what
drives me nuts when ppl act like its somehow feminist to be a huge asshole to people because 'men are allowed to behave that way,' or whatever. ok. well i dont think men should be treating people like that either. and if they talk to me like you are talking to me, i will judge and avoid them as well.
Y’all this just in: apparently bigots don’t discriminate based on what people look like. Also somehow the average person never assumes someone’s gender or sex based on their appearance.
can't think about the infantilisation of trans men for too long or i'll explode. "attention seeking" "whiny" "special" oh i knowww you think you're sticking it to the patriarchy by using emasculating insults against men but you are actually just being misogynistic to the men who have dealt with misogyny their whole lives you're not enlightened or even particularly clever you are just angry and lashing out at the easiest target
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seeing young trans men saying how they feel so “validated” by people telling them to kill themselves because “at least they see me as a man” is actually so fucking sad. 15 year old trans boy you do not deserve to be treated like a monster because of the words you use for yourself and the goals you have for your body. you do not need to accept this kind of treatment from your own community in order to prove that you’re not a threat. you are a person. you are a person
That stupid hierarchy of disability pyramid in the cripplepunk tag pisses me off so much. Physical disabilities are not more respected or treated better and they listed psychiatric disabilities as the ones with the least social capital. Apparently they suffer more than christ, even though I literally got denied the psych ward during a crisis for being too physically disabled.
criticisms of criticisms of shinigami eyes and my criticisms of them
i gathered these screenshots to respond on the points being made. this is not an invitation to harass anyone in these screenshots or even anyone associated with them. harassing people wont change their mind, it often has the opposite effect actually. so if you dont like them, just ignore or block
sigh, where do i even start? lets start with the first post...
i know of an intersex transfem whos beliefs are more similar to yours than mine. fae reblogs mostly stuff about transfeminism, uses the terms tma and tme in discussions, talks a lot about how transfems are affected by transmisogyny. these arent bad things, im not saying these to paint faer in a bad light, just that fae is more aligned with yall than me. but apparently, faes marked red in shinigami eyes
so no, even by that standard, its not that reliable
okay, its the most telling lineup because its genderqueer while not being strictly transfeminine? like, just because its not focused on transfeminine experiences doesnt mean its not worth talking about. also, its not strictly transfeminine but it can include transfeminine experiences. if theres a browser extension made by autistic people and its criticized for being harmful to autistic and ocd people, those being focused on neurodivergence that doesnt center autism doesnt make the criticism bad. it also doesnt make it anti autism. and a lot of autistic peoples neurodivergence intersects with the other two, so its not a clear statement of "us" vs "them" either
i guess to summarize this part, there are transfems who are affected by transandrophobia, exorsexism, and intersexism.
uh no, the one excluding them was the previous person, not people who fight for exorsexism and intersexism
im genuinely confused why people use tma/tme instead of transfems/non-transfems. aside from being shorter, if theyre pretty much identical, why do people use the tma/tme dichotomy?
anyway, its weird to call transandrophobic a "transmisogynistic dogwhistle". its just a term for mostly transmascs to talk about their oppression. people can talk about their oppression without it being an opposition to another oppressed group
exorsexism - had to google this one, it's discrimination against nonbinary people, which just like awwbrie's tags pointed out is ludicrous since tma enbies exist.
sigh, again. people can talk about their oppression without it being an opposition to another oppressed group. also, yeah, transfem enbies exist, they can talk about their experience of exorsexism too.
copy paste the same thing for intersexism cause im just repeating myself a lot.
oh yeah, this is about shinigami eyes
a significant number of tmes get upset when they get called out on their transmisogyny and get super defensive over it, viewing it as encroaching on their status of permanent victimhood
okay, you pointed out that nonbinary transfems and intersex transfems exist. ive seen intersex as well as nonbinary transfems talk about intersexism and exorsexism (some even talk about transandrophobia), so no, these criticisms arent just from upset "tmes". also, even if it is, they can still criticize something for being exorsexist or intersexist. and not everyone who gets marked red on shinigami eyes is a transmisogynistic tme. on my example earlier, i mentioned an intersex transfem transfeminist whos marked red. while fae doesnt complain about it, i do have problems with shinigami eyes being presented as a reliable indicator of whos a transmisogynist and who isnt.
and so they willfully misunderstand all of it. all of the terminology and what it means. what tme/tma are, what transmisogyny is, how intersectionality functions and so on.
and so they make posts complaining about it, which by all means - everyone's entitled to vent, even if they're completely wrong in what they're saying. (if it stayed there that'd be amazing but often they take that defensiveness as justification to harass us, painting themselves as the victims at the same time)
i do agree with this. but i disagree with the framing. youre framing everyone who disagree as "tmes who willfully misunderstand the concept of transfeminism" and that they "take that defensiveness as justification to harass us, painting themselves as the victims at the same time"
i know that people like those exist. i know a lot of awful people harass transfems and transfeminists. i do not condone their actions, and from what ive seen from other people, so do most of the people talking about transandrophobia, intersexism, and exorsexism. if there are people from these communities, its completely valid to complain about them. but its extremely misleading to paint these communities as transmisogynists. and its even more harmful to paint the idea of these oppressions being talked about as signs of a transmisogynist. transmisogyny is a big problem in the trans community, queer community, and society as a whole. but not every kind discussion about oppression is in response to that.
also, ive seen a transfeminist openly start a harassment campaign to drive a transmasc into deleting his blog and her community celebrated it when it happened. it would be absurd for me to project that behavior to the entire transfeminist movement. the community is made up of different kinds of people, all with different ideas on whats okay and whats not okay. if someones okay with using her riling up her community to flood somoenes dms and asks with harassment, that doesnt mean everyone else is okay with it.
conclusion, uhh.. talking about transandrophobia, exorsexism, and intersexism isnt an opposition to talking about transmisogyny. there are intersections to these, theyre all important issues to discussions. criticisms against a transfeminist extension isnt a criticism against transfeminism as a whole. and actions from a couple people from a community doesnt directly reflect the intentions of the community as a whole.
on another note, it's also... i don't know. i think it's really vile how, within some of these radfem queer spaces, trans men and nonbinary people are often lumped into "less queer" transness together... does that make sense?
when a lot of radfem queer people talk about trans women, for instance, they'll talk about how much of a struggle it is to transition socially and materially. but then some of those same people will turn around and act like nonbinary people are just quirky people who dress androgynously so their social issues don't REALLY matter because absolutely 100% none of them are as "serious" about their transitions. and then trans men are either slotted into that same category OR they're "basically a cis man" in a derogatory way that implies they don't deserve to be in the community if they pass at all.
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Wow, the radfems found my post specifically tagged “transandrophobia” and “intersexism” and “transmisogyny” and “exorsexism”, almost as if they’re specifically following those tags… surely not, right?
Also, this analogy is so dumb. So many animals have claws, and whiskers, and pointed ears, and catch birds, and not all cats have these features. You’re literally proving my point.
What really gets me about a lot of the transandrophobia on this website is the fact that people love to ignore that tons of trans men are also barred from sports, except for us its silently, theres almost no fight about it and no support for us.
Do any of you know who he is?
This is Mack Beggs, a southern trans man. Mack is a wrestler who was forced to fight in the girls state championship which he had to fight tooth and nail to be included in at all. Even now when Mack fights on a mens team he engages in activism for mental health of trans youth and for other trans athletes and yet people have the audacity to come on here and say that transmasculine people contribute nothing to the movement. Have you ever heard of him? Or was it such a quiet modest celebration that you didn’t even know he existed.
And thats how it is with trans men. It is not better to be publicly shamed and harassed but being voiceless comes with its own struggles. When we’re allowed to compete in women's sports, something we shouldn’t be forced to do in the first place, it’s almost always under the condition that we are not taking testosterone. When we are competing in mens sports, if we’re not turned away at the gate for being a “woman” we face the physical danger of assault, sexual or otherwise, in the locker room. How can you call that privilege?
This post comes with no intention to invalidate anyone else’s experiences, only to uplift those of transmascs.
I'm a gay German. I came online twenty years ago and was shocked to see US Americans use the pink triangle and talk about the genocide as if they were personally involved. Their books weren't burned. They weren't rounded up. They usually didn't even know that queer Germans and allies fought against it or that my country was the first to do the transsexual surgery. They didn't recognize the signs of fascism rising in their own country, and ignored me for years as I tried to warn them. Your abusers talking about the AIDS crisis as if they were there remind me of those who use the pink triangle.
You. You get it . You understand this haunting I am enduring. The ahistoricism and fascism lite amongst my peers. This shit never went away. It sucks so bad. I am legitimately so sorry
TRFs will call trans men birthday boys but then throw a temper tantrum when intersex and nonbinary people use the terms "perisex" and "binary"
Because "oh my god how dare you imply that there is an axis of oppression I'm not on! This is clearly a slur against me, the most oppressed person in the world!"
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Something something.... If you want something do it yourself. Or something . Can you hear the anger in my voice? They tell us to get sources. To prove our points. And we do that. We get sources. We prove our points. We do exactly what they asked us to do. But then it's unfair that the transmisogyny theory isn't as full. Do it yourself you lazy asshat. You want something done? Do it yourself. When I wanted a wiki page edited. I fucking edited it myself.
That whole "the only criticisms shown are from trans men". because trans men are the only people who are qualified to be consulted, you idiotic self absorbed lazy waste of space.
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