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Does Tenna know the 3 Mikes are fake? How does he feel about it?
In my head I definitely feel like he does, it’s a toss up honestly.
On one hand I think it’s funny if he did know because he is willingly depending on them for stability, also funny if the mikes maneuver as if Tenna DIDN’T know they were fakes.
I wouldn’t think Tenna would find out right off the bat, but definitely once he’s fully settled into this new identity (as DN Tenna) he’d eventually realize these guys aren’t the same Mike he knew of back when Spamton was around.
I wouldn’t think he’d get mad when figuring this out, obviously it’d hit him like a wall, but idk
I think he’d believe if he found out who they were under the mask it’d become too real? Too personal. Too close. He still needs them, but their anonymity is preferable.
So he’d rather go along with it than point it out.
On the other hand him never catching on is funnier because it means across every AU Tenna is very aloof when it comes to the Mikes and I think that would be funny .
THANK YOU SO MUCH TO VELVETSTRINGS FOR ALLOWING ME TO USE THE DESIGNS HE MADE FOR THEM!!!
AS WELL AS FOR TALKING TO ME ABOUT THEM AND FIGURING OUT THEIR PERSONALITIES FOR THE AU...!!!
Months ago I saw this design she made for small mike and I asked if it was possible to use it for Defernull, because it was just so perfect. Velvet is a genius.
Once again a BIG thank you and Credit to Velvet Strings for the Mike Trio Designs and descriptions! His Tumblr and Twitter !
Also please check out her FAQ for the designs !
OKAY YAY THANK YOU FOR THE PATIENCE... I AM FOREVER GRATEFUL
HERE'S THE INFO ABOUT THEM BELOW !!!
GENERAL INFO ABOUT MIKE TRIO
All the Mikes act more-so as bodyguards with different roles to uplift Tenna.
SMALL MIKE/BATTAT
KEY POINTS:
-Elusive "Co-host" and spy for Mr.Tenna, does all of the surveillance around TV world as well as gathering intel on the Dreemurrs for Tenna's benefit.
-Dynamic with Mr. Tenna is somewhat flipped from the canon counterpart, Battat has a bit more leverage over him here. Though this dynamic wouldn't be outwardly admitted by Tenna, leaving it unspoken.
-Compared to his canon counterpart he is less concerned about only finding out who the real "Mike" is and is more concerned with uncovering Mr. Tenna's personal business. Which includes his past regarding Spamton. Becoming obsessed with finding out what had caused Mr.Tenna to change in the first place. Documenting everything.
-Helps to journal and create sensationalist headlines for Tenna.
GENERAL PERSONALITY:
-Smug, vain, overconfident, somewhat superficial. Deeply juxtaposed to canon Battat, he assumes he knows everything and knows it best, especially when it’s about Mr. Tenna.
-Due to being around and monitorting Mr. Tenna so much, Tenna's traits have somewhat naturally “rubbed off” on Battat. Especially in times of stress Battat tends to mimic his behaviors.
-He feels entitled about Tenna, wanting Tenna all to himself (like canon Battat) and is technically successful in doing so (unlike canon Battat) but at the cost of a skewed dynamic.
-Somewhat mirroring Mr. Tenna's loss of identity, he's lost himself in the entire Mike facade and has lost himself by being so absorbed with Tenna's past.
-Generally a bad influence on Tenna alongside Ramb (enabling the changes that caused Tenna to lose himself in the first place and spiral down into isolation as well as the tactics he uses to keep eyes on himself).
-No better than the fanatic Pippins, he's taken the concept to the extreme.
-Is still an emotional rock to Tenna here and heavily relied upon, deeply trusted by Tenna for better or for worse considering all of the past info he has kept on Tenna unbeknownst to him.
CAT MIKE/PLUEY
(Shadow Guy Design by Velvet)
KEY POINTS:
-Mike Trio's costume designer, Mr. Tenna's personal tailor, and stylist.
-Designed the Mike costumes and Tenna's "new" outfit (the current one he wears after giving into Ramb’s suggestions). Most trusted Mike he often goes to for (literally) keeping up appearances.
-Probably the most similar to his canon counterpart out of the three Mikes, mostly here for fun, enjoying the promotion from costume designer to Tenna’s personal stylist that he gets in this role.
GENERAL PERSONALITY:
-A bit more bold and "forward" in comparison to his canon counterpart's laid back and reserved attitude. Doesn't keep to himself as much and moreso nosy.
-He gets along incredibly well with Battat, unlike canon they're much more tightly knit due to their similar personalities. Especially since Pluey doesn't actually want to be personally involved with Tenna's feelings and emotional needs, allowing Battat to fully monopolize it.
(This in no way stops Tenna from still finding him cute, which Pluey is flattered by.)
-The Mike that Battat considers the most helpful in terms of gathering information and just knowing what others are saying about him.
COWBOY MIKE/JONGLER
(Zapper Design by Velvet)
KEY POINTS:
-The Mike who takes their role as bodyguard seriously.
-Although they're not versed at the whole gathering intel or reconnaissance like Battat is, they make sure to keep everything in physical order, ensuring Mr. Tenna's Safety and Privacy.
-Because of their clashing roles, intent, and personalities- Battat and Jongler do not get along well. Jongler was under the impression that the Mikes were here to aid Tenna, they weren’t really prepared for Battat spiraling into uncovering Tenna’s past and trying to co-host the whole show alongside him.
-Leaning more into an "Outlaw" Persona, they’re more imposing here and a little less “airheaded” than canon Jongler.
GENERAL PERSONALITY:
-More quiet and reserved compared to their canon counterpart.
Willingly refuses to listen to Battat's commands, sometimes going out of their way to do the complete opposite. (Thinking of the bit in the actual Mike battle)
-For this reason, they have the better sense of humor of the three.
-The only Mike who feels a bit guilty about the vice grip that Battat and the idea of "Mike" in general has over Mr.Tenna. Feeling especially bad about the whole ruse, including Battat knowing and digging though Mr.Tenna's past and secrets.
-For this reason, when they're the Mike-of-the-Day they keep any new revelations they find out about Mr.Tenna secret from Battat, which can lead to arguments and infighting.
-Ultimately they are willingly still a part of the Mike Trio. They can be amiable and silly with the other two.
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Regarding UFMTT'S ideal body, is there a lore reason he'd want it to be butterfly themed or is it just meant to be symbolic of the metamorphosis allegory? Either way it goes hard 😼
(also are the antennae canon and if so how does that work)
its symbolic!!
he doesn’t actually have wings or the antennae’s.
I just say butterfly design bc I always draw him with the wings and antennae’s for fun. Especially if I draw him with Spamton and Tenna. Bc it’s like a trifecta theme with the “Ton”s.
you said ufmtt doesn't have his dream body, but do we have any idea of what his dream body would possibly look like if he could have it?
His dream body would basically be this butterfly body I draw him in sometimes (updated from that poor excuse of a post-game design I did years ago)
Okay putting a read more bc I yap about UF MTT
To me in Underfell, since Mettaton is technically trapped in the body that Alphys originally has him in, he wouldn’t really go for a design similar to that one, specifically in SHAPE. Right ingredients, Wrong meal (does that make sense).
Which is why the most obvious change here is the rounded shoulder pads.
I also want to note that I know some people have complaints about how UF MTT comes off as just me torturing him for fun, it is… not that at all. It is far from that.
I just have a hard time trying to explain what he experiences, what his overarching concepts are and how it mirrors Undertale MTT.
Because I’m afraid that people will simply not understand my intention and I will be forced to reveal things about myself in order to validate it.
I’ll just start small and say some of these concepts revolve around Dysmorphia, Dysphoria, Autonomy, Self Reliance, and Rebirth. There’s more I’ll add later because
I believe Mettaton to be very important to Undertale (and dare I say Deltarune’s) entire plotline and story. His character has many many layers and I really want it to translate well in Underfell (and hopefully Defernull).
I’ll say NOW the concepts of Dysmorphia and Dysphoria that I will eventually get around to is really the horror that can come with these clashing state of minds.
Like staring at the ceiling, fully aware of every portion of your body you either hate or gives you discomfort, but you’re at the mercy of.
Especially the parts that are perceived the most.
Anyway I feel like I’m not making that much sense and getting in my head already about this brief explanation and how it might be misconstrued so here’s a picture I will paint through words.
To me UF MTT is like
Ghost- Caterpillar
MTT/MTT EX- Cocoon
MTT NEO or POST GAME- Butterfly
Once again I’m sorry for hijacking an ask to over explain things HAAHAHAHA
Is there an equivalent to the Delta Rune prophecy in Underfell?
Yes and No, because we the audience don’t know what the Deltarune ultimately entails or how it is fulfilled I can’t definitely say what the Defernull equivalent could be at this time.
For now in my head the prophecy for Defernull whilst tying in Underfell CURRENTLY revolves around the concept of:
when a mirror breaks, one missing (or shattered) piece can change the shape and reflection entirely.
When I say broken I mean you can still piece it together and the concept of the reflection is present. You are still able to see a reflected person or image. In all of their(it’s) original sense.
When a piece or pieces are completely shattered or missing the image starts to distort more and more in the mirror. Changing the image entirely, beyond from what it’s reflecting off of.
The details in how this is a realized prophecy I’ve yet to work out, but that’s like the general foundation concept right now.
howdy hey!! Just curious if you are okay with small creators making merch of the defernull universe (small production probably less than 10units at a time)
apologies if this has already been asked!
have a great day :3
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context for the first one, cornily exploring more about UF/DN being mirrored counterparts and how maybe the secret bosses or anyone related to secret anything would Already Know.
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