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Lester: You don’t believe that you have no limits; you don’t believe that life can be, every second, ecstatically happy; you don't believe that it can be totally effortless; you don’t believe that you can do things mentally. Or, is it that we keep procrastinating? I say that if we really do want to go all the way, we do it. So, again, why don't we go all the way?
Q: Well, I think, in my case, I've probably hypnotized myself into believing the opposite. I've associated with the finite me all my life, in all my conscious awareness, to the degree that it is real to me.
Lester: Oh, then to you the Infinite would do away with finite?
Q: Yes. Because the finite is what I believe in; it's real to me. What you say about the Infinite has infinite possibilities but until I can totally accept that, it's like when you touch a light bulb and it burns you and somebody says, "Now touch it and it won't burn you"; it's difficult to overcome your subconscious reaction not to touch it.
Lester: Well, let me tell you then, that the Infinite includes the finite, and is the basis for it. You see, you can hold onto all the finite you want when you're infinite; you don't have lose a thing.
Q: Then, I'd be glad to give it up for the Infinite.
Lester: Give it up? Maybe this is what's bothering us; that we're afraid that we're going to give up our bodies; that we're going to give up our families and homes. It doesn't happen that way. When those who did go all the way achieved it, they did not abandon their bodies, homes and families. They only abandoned their former feelings of bondage and attachment to their bodies, homes and families and in place of it felt free.
Q: If there's happiness greater than what I've experienced in a body, to heck with this!
Lester: Well, again, you do not give up your body. Your happiness gets more intense the more you move toward total freedom, until it reaches a point where you just can't contain it any more. Then you resolve it into a very beautiful peace that is never, ever again disturbed. And that peace is really far more delicious than the intense joy was. And then, when you choose to be active in the world, you'll never, ever lose that background peace; you will feel it all the time. And you are free to do anything in the world; you can act angry, scared; be poor or rich; you can do anything you want; but you do not disappear.
Q: It doesn't affect you?
Lester: The world can never, never touch you again, because you have imperturbable peace.
Lester: So then, why don't you come along?
Q: Whenever I identify my source of income with the effort I exert in my business. I say to myself. "You're a stupid idiot. This isn't the source of my infinite supply. However, I'm not strong enough to just say. "Well, this isn't it; I'll do it the other way," because I think, "What if it doesn't work?"
Lester: You would have exactly what you had before you tried it. However, you expect it not to work if you say that.
Q: Yes, but that's where the hang-up is. Maybe it's a lack of faith, not that it hasn't worked for you, but whether it'll work for me, I am not convinced. If you could only help me, just one little infinite bit of strength that you could give me…
Lester: Oh, now wait a minute; you have the support and I've given you many directions, anyone of which would take you all the way. I could give them to you again.
Q: That's like the sign "San Francisco." I'll bet there are probably a hundred signs that point the way to San Francisco; but if I get to the sign and sit down underneath it, it would take more than just knowing where San Francisco is, and that's where I bog down.
Lester: Right, you don't take the direction; you look at it and sit down. Now, the direction: “Get to the place where no one and no thing can disturb you,” would have taken you all the way.
Q: Yes, but that's like going to the moon.
Lester: It is easy, if you would do it. It is your decision to be disturbed or not to be disturbed.
Q: That's quite a challenge!
Lester: Do you want more? I'll give you new ones.
Lester: Be totally selfless. Be interested only in others; have no interest in you, yourself. That would take you all the way. If we would be totally selfless in our behavior, act not for ourselves but for the other ones — this would do it rapidly.
Q: I don't mean to be argumentative but this is really a nitty-gritty.
Lester: I'll give you another one: Get to the place where you have no more desire keep letting go of desires until there are no more and that's it! You don't like that one either, do you?
Q: Well, part of it. I've got a lot of things I'd like to let go of.
Lester: If anyone would carry that through until there are no more desires, and it's just letting go of them as they come up, you'd go all the way.
Q: Lester, what about the one that you and I discussed, about the mind? You see everything out there in your mind, right? So that's where everything is. So, that thing out there is just your mind. When you discover this, you change your mind and it changes out there.
Lester: Yes, that would take you there.
Q: What about no attachments and no aversions?
Lester: That'll do it too. That will take you all the way. But why haven't we used these things? They are not new to us.
Q: That's what I'm earnestly trying to decide for myself. This is ridiculous; all this intellectual knowledge that I've acquired and what little I've actually done with it. It's alarming. I said, "How many people have their own private Master in their family." You've given us all this stuff and I 'say, "It's my responsibility what I do with it; why haven't I used it?"
Lester: Yes, and your private Master is you! This is important: Your private Master is you!
Q: Isn't there only One anyway?
Lester: When you see what you really are, you'll see the Oneness and no more otherness.
Q: I try to squint and no matter how I do it, I still see separation.
Lester: That's the way you are approaching it, with squinty eyes; you won't look at it full view, wide open, because you are afraid you're going to disappear. So what you have to do is dig down within, pull it out and see it. Once you see it, you'll naturally let go of that fear. You're also afraid you're going to lose your individuality. Your individuality is something you'll never ever lose. It’s with you through eternity. The "I" that I am, is never, ever lost. What happens is that we just expand it to include more and more until it includes the entire infinity. I say you're afraid of losing yourself, your body, your mind, your family, your business, and all your little things; you're subconsciously afraid you're going to lose them. If it were conscious, you'd look at it, drop it, and be free.
Q: Well, you reached me when you added those other things. The physical body attachment I don't see, but when you included my family and my business and these other things.
Lester: Do you want me to show you how attached you are to that physical body? Just imagine, don't do it, but just imagine throwing your body over a cliff. Can you now see your attachment to the body?
Q: Yes. But do you have to have that desire to get rid of it?
Lester: You don't get rid of it; you see what you are and then you'll see that you are not the body, that the body is one infinitesimal part of you.
Q: Why can't I go all the way?
Lester: Because you're afraid that if you do, you're going to disappear. Does anyone feel that? That you'll disappear if you go all the way?
Q: I'm afraid I'd lose my mind. (Laughter.)
Lester: You actually do lose your mind, and then you reestablish it so that you can communicate. It's far more difficult to reestablish the mind than it was originally to let go of it because the mind itself was such a clamping down of you, you don't want to come back to it. But you will; you’ll start thinking again. The only difference in the before and after picture is that now your thinking is unfree, determined by subconscious, compulsive thoughts; in the after picture there are no more subconscious, compulsive thoughts. Every thought is totally free and without any conditioning by your tendencies and predispositions. That leads me to another great one: Rid yourself of all your tendencies and predispositions and you will go all the way.
— Keys to the Ultimate Freedom
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