🌊Talay🌞

Small introduction:

Genderfluid, use all pronouns

Queer, we all die like labels

As gay as Ongsa gay panicking and Sun calling for her 24/7

Constantly hyperfixating on languages learning and everything that's gay

Partial hyperfixations: Thai drama (gl&bl), kpop, animation

People I don't like: (the problem it's me, not you. I will take the blame for unoriginal people.)

Cis-straight people, but I know many of them. I just don't like their lifestyle

Toxic people, especially the ones that throw hate (we allow mistakes and forgiveness in this blog)

People that think 2gether is a good series and/or still ship dead ships (move on, people make life choices. Let them be.)

Introducing a few characteristics of the Thai language by using a clip from Love Bully รักให้ร้าย

Because of a (likely) typo, the translation of the sentence "I miss my home" was wrong, but I'll further the translation by pointing out a few additional things.

Nicknames in Thai language

Irin (ไอริน) calls herself and is called by Night as "Ai" (ไอ). It's a shorten version of her name and it commonly happens in Thai, just like in English, especially with two-syllables long names.

Talking about oneself in Thai language

Thai has unusual ways to use pronouns for an English speaker. Some are similar, like using เขา for he/she but they're often interchangeable and mixed, so it might get a bit confusing. One of this unusual things is calling yourself with your own name instead of using a pronoun like "I".

If we take a sentence from this dialogue:

ไอคิดถึงบ้าน

the literal translation would be "Ai misses home".

It's common to talk about yourself using your name or a "title" (like P', Nong, Doctor, Mom...), even though pronouns like ฉัน, ผม and เรา exist. Contextually, they give off different nuances that usually the translation can't show.

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(+ Official names and nicknames in Thai work differently than you might expect. Celebrities who you see around are usually called with a nickname, often deriving by English nouns, but their official government name is generally a long thai name that you might see by looking up their full names on the internet.)

From ใช้ฉันทำไม (Stand-in) by Proo Thunwa on Youtube

Casting room

ใช้ฉันทำไม Short Film (it's the song's title: Stand-in Short Film)

Director: intends to do a film about his ex-boyfriend

Ohm: plays the ex-boyfriend of the director

First workshop:

"Move in sync with your partner as much as possible"

Sun calling Ongsa for 3 minutes (not) straight🏳️‍🌈

In Thai, it's very common to call people by their names or titles.

พี่ (phi) and น้อง (nong) are often used to call someone older or younger, but when calling someone of the same age, like Ongsa and Sun do, it makes sense to just use their names since there's no difference in status.

(Names are used unless of cases in which other derogatory or fun ways are used to call friends, just like you can imagine in any other language.)

+ Example of the usage:

องศาตลกอะ -> Ongsa, you are funny

The English language needs to add "you" when translating because sentences are spoken directly to the person (e.g. you are funny). In Thai though, it's more like speaking about a third person or directing your words to the person in front of you in a third person way.

Actual translation องศาตลกอะ -> Ongsa (is) funny.

Unsubtitled whispering😅⬇️

Alpha: เอรินแกทําอะไรอ่ะ = Aylin, what are you doing?

Aylin: บริการจากใจ 🙂

บริการ= service/support

จากใจ= from jai

ใจ is a difficult word to translate in English directly because, depending on what it gets attached to, it can mean many things. A list of meanings is: heart, mind, soul, spiritual center or core, inner being.

Since Aylin also speaks like a robot, I'd personally translate Aylin's sentence with "service from heart/mind".

The Thai meaning of "being a dog" 🐕

Sun: ดูสิ องศากับลาเต้อะหน้าเหมือนกันเลย= Look! Ongsa and Latte's face is the same!

Initially here, they're talking about just the appearance and resemblance between Ongsa and Latte.

But later, they start joking about "being a dog" which in Thai has a specific meaning 🤭 I'll explain briefly.

"Being a dog" = when someone is so whipped that they'll go back to their lover despite fighting or getting hurt.

Usually it goes like this:

The "dog" gets hurt and seeks comfort in a friend.

The friend reassures them and tries to make them understand that if something is bad for them they shouldn't go back to it

The "dog" goes back to their partner despite their friend's advices.

Sun calls Ongsa a dog (which she is indeed very whipped) but who do you think is the real dog here? 🤭

I remind you this is Sun getting hurt by Earth multiple times but smiling happily has soon as she just gets a bracelet. 🐶🐕

In conclusion look at our two cute lil dogs🥰🐶

Thai names for dishes are often pretty simple. No confusing difficult names. Food is often just called as it is.

For example: Pad thai with fresh shrimp is ผัดไทยกุ้งสด

ผัดไทย pad thai

กุ้งสด fresh shrimp

Let's see the difference in:

Kanom Krok ขนมครก 😋

Kanom Sun ขนมซัน 🌞

ขนม "Kanom" means dessert/sweet

By adding something else, it can easily become the name of a new dish.

ครก krok mean mortar, so kanom krok is called like that not because it's made in one, but because of the shape. They just look similar.

Ongsa was thinking about what to gift Sun and accidentally replaced "krok" with "Sun"

You can now see what vibe it gives off. It's like she called a dish"Sun sweet"/"Sun cake"

"พี่หมอก ผมขอเสื้อผมคืนได้มั้ย" = P' Mhok, can I have my shirt back?

Sunny🛵 = Sun's motorbike in Thai isn't just called Sunny, it has พี่ in front. Phi (or P') is used to adress an older person, as well as being respectful.

Saying the sentence "I came with P' Sunny" confused Ongsa because it seems like she came with someone. After gulping dramatically in her Ongsa panic style, she realized the misunderstanding🫠

The cliffhanger "ถึงดวงอาทิตย์ของเรา จากโลกของเธอ" = literally means to my Sun, from your Earth... But the thai word used is actually "globe", "planet Earth".

(Check this post for the Earth/globe thai meaning)

Earth, as the "guy" texting Sun, isn't mentioned directly, but Sun catches it.

❤️🧡💛💚🩵💙💜

From Viceversa ep1

23.5 องศาที่โลกเอียง

In English the title can be translated as "The 23.5 degrees to which the Earth is tilled" and someone might think "omg it uses Earth's name" well... No. But it's funny how things turn around by translating it.

Breaking it down, the word used are:

23.5 = astronomically speaking, the Earth's rotation axis is tilted 23.5 degrees on its orbit around the Sun

องศา = Ongsa, which is the character's name, means "degree", "angle"

ที่ = let's say it means "which" in this case

โลก = "globe", "Earth". It's not the same word used for "Earth", the IG user Ongsa clames to be, but you now see why it's funny by translating it. In Thai the title has her real name, but if translated, it now mentions her cover-up character. (... just like a translation will always have an unfaithful layer because it can't deliver the full meaning of the original language 👀)

เอียง = "inclined", "leaning to one side"

Characters:

Ongsa องศา = as mentioned, it means "degree" 🌏

Sun ซัน = this one's easy, the center of our solar system, the Sun 🌞

Luna ลูน่า = it means "moon" in latin and several other languages 🌜

Aylin เอลิน = its origin is Turkish and Swiss, it means "moon halo" or "one that belongs to the moon". It also sounds very similar to the English loanword อเลียน (alien)👽

I don't want to be your friend, human senior.

Who said I was a human. I'm a moon.

Her friends are seemingly all very shocked

Something that might seems strange considering a previous question, but which is actually a translation misunderstanding...

The girl speaking never mentions a guy. She says หนู which literally means "mouse" but it's a word used to refer to a young person, regardless of the gender.

That's why I now wonder if she's already out, and the fact that she's talking to a guy is weird🤔 Let's remember that she's canonically lesbian ⬇️

(The graphic designer confirmed how the lines in their hair match the colors of the lgbtqai+ flags they represent)

Another funny joke from Earth! In English it's translated differently from the original thai meaning.

Earth posted a photo of a middle-aged man cutting a coconut with the description ลุงกำพร้า น่าสงสาร, let's break it down:

ลุง literally means uncle, but it's often used to address an older man, even a stranger, with the purpose of keeping it polite

กำพร้า means orphan, but the second part alone (พร้า) is actually the type of knife he's holding.

Since he's an "orphan" Earth continues with น่าสงสาร literally meaning "pitiful/unfortunate"

Ongsa is playing with unusual words combination once again calling him an orphan and being sorry for him, and Sun find it so funny 🥹❤️