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Interesting note: It definitely uses whoever you're following now, not at that date. Even the 2020 one includes a lot of people I was absolutely not following yet in Feb 2020, which is actually kind of cool, I can see what they were reblogging from this fandom before I got into it.
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really galling amount of people misinterpreting this post so i'd like to clarify. i'm saying that when discussions about patriarchal beauty standards and the way women are heavily shamed and coerced into eschewing their own natural state of being (hairy) are occurring, it is unhelpful (AT BEST) to interrupt and say that the reason YOU remove the hair from your body is because of sensory issues. that's not what we're talking about. stop asking for validation for doing something that society at large wants you to do. stop derailing the conversation because you feel uncomfortable about being made aware that you, for whatever reason it is, adhere to harmful, unfair and ridiculous beauty standards. you're stepping into the middle of an important conversation that needs to be had and making it all about you. shut the fuck up forever.
also quite frankly i think a lot less people would experience sensory issues if they let their hair grow out so that it isn't bristly and rough and irritating. and i cannot help but wonder why these sensory issues aren't as predominant in men. maybe you're uncomfortable with the hair on your body because you've been taught to be uncomfortable with it. just a thought.
Sidenote from my praxis: a lot of men who has sensory issues with body hair or removal of body hair (I've seen both equally, with facial hair mostly) are simply enduring it, adding to the general discomfort for their everyday existence, because they're taught it's how things should be.
I had snuck my turn when doing Mouseâs evening childcare, and Mouse became a tremendous fan of Tomodachi-version of Charlie. Charlie, coded by the game as an Energetic Charmer, won their entire heart.
This evening, Bear came home from school and went to play their game, but was stymied - Mouse wanted to watch them play, but screamed the house down because Bearâs island had a catastrophic lack of Charlie.
Because I was trying to make dinner, Bear kindly agreed to play my island with Mouse instead. As they were doing me a favour (removing the Mouse complication) I only asked one favour- that they not provoke any romances that did not already exist.
The only romance on the island was that Derek was smitten with Killie, who barely registered his existence in return.
Bear came screaming into the kitchen, stratospheric with excitement, over the resulting DEREK CONFESSING HIS FEELINGS SCENE.
Bear screamed like a GIBBON. Mouse leaped violently around the kitchen. I have never really talked about my Original Characters with people in my life, let alone my children.
Bear dropped to their knees in supplication. âIF WE ONLY SEE KILLIE SMILE,â they screamed of a fictional little man theyâd known for ten minutes, âILL SURVIVE.â
Bear screamed so much at this that Dr Glass came in from the garden, storming: âBilly (Bearâs lifelong friend who lives three houses down) can hear you screaming from his house!â
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my dealer: got some straight gas đ„đ this strain is called âearly 2000s harry potter livejournal forumâ đł youâll be zonked out of your gourd đŻ
me: yeah whatever. i donât feel shit.
5 minutes later: dude i swear i just saw cassandra clare post an incest fic
Warum bin ich eigentlich damit gestraft, mich bei Buchautoren zuverlĂ€ssiger an Vornamen als an Nachnamen zu erinnern? Wisst ihr wie dĂ€mlich das klingt wenn jemand nachfragt wer der Autor von dem Buch ist ĂŒber das ihr aktuell stĂ€ndig faselt, und die einzige Antwort die mir einfĂ€llt ist "Ich glaube er hieĂ Uwe"
Lost my mind a little and added (if my math is correct) 5,615 beads to Nim Teasdale's Odenwald pattern. Anything worth doing is worth overdoing!
The goal was âsoothingly weighted but not uncomfortable to wear, even as someone with chronic pain.â It could have been a little heavier, so maybe Iâll make a shawl with larger beads another time, but Iâm very pleased with this one. I used size 6/0 seed beads, applied as I go with a .6mm crochet hook.
Yarn-wise, used 2 cakes of YarnArt Flowers. I knitted the fully purple sections from both, then knitted all the way through the yellow-oranges with a single ball. When I hit the beginning of red-oranges, I used yarn from both cakes, alternating between them. (Not the entirety of both, I played it by ear to make sure I made it through the full rainbow.)
I do have edited charts with bead placements. I will only share them with Nim's permission.
I've done A LOT of knitting/crochet this year while chronic illness kept me from my sewing machine, but I'm feeling much better now. There will be new quilts to look forward to soon, plus a few more yarn crafts to share in the meantime!
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I have no recollection of whether I slept at all last night. I don't remember falling asleep but I find it incredulous that I'd be faring this well through the day with zero sleep. It's 5:45 pm and I feel like one of those baby birds that look like chewed-up gum with lint on it.
When you learn the material science behind flintknapping, you rather quickly realize just how much of the world you could knap if you were either very rich or owned a walk-in freezer
so unfortunately temperature doesn't just magically make something knappable
even excluding those materials which do not have a solid form, not all solid materials undergo sufficient embrittlement at low temperatures
and even excluding those materials that do not become brittle when cold, not all brittle materials exhibit conchoidal fracture
ultimately thats the property we are looking for here, materials that do not possess strong preferential cleavage and fracture directions and can therefore be fractured conchoidally are those considered knappable
now this is an Incredibly large group materials still, nearly every brittle amorphous material and nearly everything with a glass transition temperature is potentially included, making almost all plastics a potential option
but even crystals display conchoidal fracture so long as their crystal structure doesnt produce definite preferential fracture and cleavage planes, I've been hoping to try out some larger specimens of synthetic ruby or cubic zirconia for their knappability at some point, since they both exhibit some conchoidal fracture
honestly I'd love to someday make a "will it knap" series, i think it would be a fun way to educate people on both material science and flintknapping
OHH MY GOD!!! OKAY I had someone leave a comment about this on my instagram post of this artwork years ago and I remember asking if it was true and I didn't get any response back! They must have used it again for 2025! THIS IS SO WILD!!! Thank you for sending this, I'm thrilled I actually get to see the exam paper! I hope everyone who did their final JC classics exams in Ireland did well and correctly guessed Perseus on my art from 5 years ago!
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SAY NO MORE. everyone sit down, grab a drink, and listen to what i like to refer to as "hey what the fuck are we even doing." i will preface this with 4 statements:
I am a terminal hater. I view every claim made in an academic publication with a suspicious squint, which probably influenced my dissertation significantly and definitely influenced my outlook on Attic Late Geometric (henceforth called LG) pottery.
I am specifically a terminal hater of periodization. I love continuity. I love observing the integration of old and new as things gradually change over time. I do not like cutting time up into âneat little boxesâ which end up simplifying gradual processes into sharp breaks. I am also already a bit of a hater of Early Iron Age Greek chronology. I would kill Submycenaean in a heartbeat, I think itâs stupid as hell (shoutout Papadopoulos et al 2013 btw). So I am even more predisposed to be skeptical here.
I especially hate the idea of definitive statements being applied to a protohistoric period & region like, say, Early Iron Age Attica. like man i think it depends
Either everyone else has been using a totally separate mindset here which I am incapable of having towards pottery analysis or perhaps they've been smoking crack in a corner for almost a hundred years, its really uncertain. Either way this is literally just me. I have tried to find someone else with this specific critique. Nope. Its Just Me. so take that for what you will.
Anyways, here is my beef with the Standard Approach To Late Geometric Attic Pottery Chronology & Development (Abridged) (This was an 8000 word undergraduate dissertation):
So, background context for those of you not emotionally invested in Ancient Greek Pottery Lore - THIS is the standard [big-picture] chronology of Attic Geometric Pottery (from Coldstream 2008, "Greek Geometric Pottery"):
Ignore the top bit (Proto-Attic/PA), he ain't relevant (sorry proto-attic stans). What REALLY matters here is my buddy the Late Geometric - LG I and LG II and all variants therein (LGIa, LGIb, etc). This is the one which I will focus on today, for I find the way it's been framed to be total, utter bullshit.
You may be wondering "how is this utter bullshit? it looks fine!" Well. Well. For that I must backtrack a little to first discuss the Average Approach To Studying Ancient Pots. Due to multiple factors - especially antiquities trafficking, loss of in-situ contexts, antiquarianism - the Pot People have been molded into a strange lovechild between archaeology and art history. Which means that the analysis of pottery production, and of specific vessels is less about where they were found and more about their shape and decoration [ie, if its a fuckin skyphos or not + how Achilles was painted on it]. This isnât the only way that ancient ceramics are analyzed - thereâs also other indicators such as the clay used to make them (which is very useful for pinning its original production site to a particular geographic region, since the chemical composition of clay can be pretty confidently localized) and inscriptions/writing (ie, signatures by the artisan(s) or the usage of regional alphabets). But figural decoration remains the primary focal points for scholarship centered on Athenian pottery, and influences so much of how Attic vessels are analyzed in comparison to one another and how ancient Greek ceramic production is discussed as a whole.
Which, in my humble opinion, is an absolutely fucking absurd way to conceptualize Late Geometric pottery workshops. Athenian workshops in the later Archaic period were centralized around the potters, not painters (Sapirstein 2013, 499-500); a theory that is further supported by the presence of faint inscriptions on red-figure pottery (made before firing) which delineate the position & identity of the figures depicted on the vase (Iozzo, 2018). And while I am hesitant to apply a later organization of production to what is, again, a protohistorical period with no written records, I find it far more plausible to center the production of ceramics around the potters, who are making the fucking vases here, rather than Davison & Coldstreamâs focus on painters - who are fulfilling a secondary, and ultimately more specialized/individualized role in the process. Especially since painters in Archaic Athens were also not restricted to a particular workshop (Sapirstein 2014, p. 180-181), so the conception that painters were trained in the kind of centralized way that Davison & Coldstream are theorizing here (moreso Coldstream, Davisonâs actually kinda flexible re: workshop organization) seems improbable. Regardless, basing the chronological sequence of vessels according to their decoration alone (in my opinion) seems far less useful than the potential route of how these vases were created.
For example, there was an incredibly interesting study semi-recently which analyzed the proportions of skyphoi cups from the Early Geometric through the LG (Smyrnaios 2017). The reason I find it so fascinating - and so useful as an approach to LG workshops - is because the study noted a consistency in these ratios, generally consistent changes in these ratios over time, and - in the case of two specific Late Geometric skyphoi - there was a clear break from the predominant pattern in favor of a different ratio which was used for only them!! (Smyrnaios 2017, p. 119). This (in my opinion) is WAY MORE useful for the reconstruction of a protohistoric workshop, because you can draw a clear, distinct contrast between how they were produced and the other studied examples. While this is not necessarily definitive in a chronological sense (maybe if you could pinpoint specific transitions in the ratio? but I digress), itâs still (again, in my opinion) far more useful than the predominant focus on the style of the painted decoration. Thereâs also another interesting study re: wheel-made vs. hand-made Protogeometric pottery (ca. 1000-900BCE) that proposes that differences in production methods were connected to who/where/how an individual potter was trained (RĂŒckl & Jacobs, 2016). Thereâs so much more potential here re: ceramic production and its just being Ignored (well. Smyrnaios is pretty invested but overall this is a very niche area).
Now, going back to Davisonâs graph, you may notice something a bit strange about the chronology of Late Geometric workshops. The style itself - and the entire period - is defined by the Dipylon Workshop - and, more specifically, the painter referred to as the âDipylon Masterâ (who, judging by Coldstream 2008, p. 33-35 is maybe also thought of as a potter? but I'll get to that).
You may or may not know the Dipylon Workshop from such hits as:
Athens 804, aka âThe Dipylon Amphoraâ[3], and my buddy Athens 192, aka the 'Dipylon Oinochoe.' There's lots of amphorai and oinochoai out there in the world so to me they are simply A804 and A192.
But again, Iâm a skeptical bastard. So I got curious. What was the evidence behind this? Who came up with this theory? Where did it come from?
Everyone (Brann 1960, p. 12) (Coldstream 2008, 3) (Davison 1961, p. 6, 23-24) (CouliĂš 2015, p. 39) kept pointing back to an article by G. Nottbohm as the first to really define the 'Dipylon Master,' describe his style, and attribute works to him. So I go look for Nottbohmâs article. and. oh my god stop the fucking train okay
This ^^ is the foundation for how scholarship compares Late Geometric Attic pottery workshops and positions their development. This fuckass article that positions the âDipylon Masterâ[4] as the âfirst tangible artist on European soilâ who âbreaks through the darkness of the preceding centuriesâ and is âone of the greatest manifestations of the Greek spirit and Greek art of all time.â like. can we all set aside all the decorative analysis this field's been obsessed with for 100+ years and unpack this? like, her framing of the âDipylon Master,â the fact that she even fucking calls him «Der Meister der Grossen Dipylon-Amphora», and the field all just adopted that shit too for some fucking reason, just. All of it. Chuck it in the bin for now guys. Please. or. no? weâll just speculate abt which Middle Geometric workshop the âDipylon Masterâ came from (Bohen 2017, p. 160-162)? đ« đ« đ« đ« please the racism & facism is right fucking there like am i HIGH?
And Nottbohmâs methodology has been critically reviewed only once - by Chamoux (1945), who was also afaik the first one to actually respond to the article - but⊠he doesnât address the ideological bend to it that taints her methodology? He does make some very good points [5] that honestly just look like he got hit by Apollo's dodgeball, where he's like "Nottbohm's terminology will only encourage people to recreate an artist's personality which is ultimately unverifiable, surely we could be doing something better with our time" (Chamoux 1945, p. 68) (i'm paraphrasing & it's all in french). unfortunately he got proven right and this field refuses to do a u-turn. Chamoux why'd you have to focus on other shit besides Geometric pottery please you were the only one[6] on the right track,,,,
Anyways thatâs my take on Late Geometric pottery chronology, development & workshops đ i hate the "dipylon master founded it all and was First" idea and i dont give a shit if killing it nukes our current chronological dating of the LG because i think the theory should Die
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[1.] The reason I consider Geometric pottery as "objectively one of the hardest styles to define a definitive workshop using only figural decoration" is because Geometric art is - as I've noted above - kinda sparse with figural decoration? And when it does appear, it's very linear & abstract. So emphasizing the decoration here, and treating it like definitive proof of a shared producer for two vases, is just. Bizzare to me.
[2.] This is not a dig at the LG style here - I think it fucks severely. My main concern is that so many attempts to categorize LG vessels seem to ignore this element of abstraction altogether - or, worse, treat divergences from it as âa mistakeâ (Moore 2007, p. 18), a âcollapseâ/disintegration (Coldstream 2008, p. 56), or âdegenerativeâ (Brann 1962, 15). This kind of thinking appears in tandem with the concept of Attic(cough Athenian cough) pottery being influenced by Corinth (Coldstream 2008, 56); take from that what you will.
[3.] rip to every other amphora from the hieraian gate cemetery ifg. only One Dipylon Amphora allowed
[4.] the quotation marks i have been using this whole time have been to convey just how much i fucking despise this name and all its shitass loaded baggage that it carries. this is quite an aggressive way to say this now that i think abt it but still im a Hater
[5.] Not including the bit where he tries to use LG battle scenes to date the Iliad. Not touching that with a ten-foot pole. I only care for his critique of Nottbohm â€ïž
[6.] this is technically an overexaggeration, Siebert 2010 (p. 311) kinda took up the torch on this one (calling Nottbohm's methodology inadequate lmao) but. i fear its like a tiny corner of french scholarship and the anglophones need to catch the hell up ASAP.
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Sources/Further Reading:
Nottbohm, G.G. (1943) âDer Meister Der Grossen Amphora Im Dipylon,â JdI 58, pp. 1â31.
Kahane, P. (1940) âDie Entwicklungsphasen der Attisch-Geometrischen Keramik,â American Journal of Archaeology, 44(4), pp. 464â482. Available at: https://doi.org/10.2307/499959.
Brann, E.T.H. (1962) Late Geometric and Protoattic Pottery: Mid 8th to Late 7th Century B.C. (The Athenian Agora). Available at: https://doi.org/10.2307/3601969.
Ć tÄpĂĄn RĂŒckl and Loe Jacobs (2016) ââWith a Little Help from My Wheelâ: Wheel-Coiled Pottery in Protogeometric Greece,â Hesperia: The Journal of the American School of Classical Studies at Athens, 85(2), p. 297. Available at: https://doi.org/10.2972/hesperia.85.2.0297.
Iozzo, M. (2018) âHidden Inscriptions on Athenian Vases,â American Journal of Archaeology, 122(3), pp. 397â410. Available at: https://doi.org/10.3764/aja.122.3.0397.
Sapirstein, P. (2013) âPainters, Potters, and the Scale of the Attic Vase-Painting Industry,â American Journal of Archaeology, 117(4), pp. 493â510. Available at: https://doi.org/10.3764/aja.117.4.0493.
Sapirstein, P. (2014) âDemographics and Productivity in the Ancient Athenian Pottery Industry,â in J.H. Oakley (ed.) Athenian Potters and Painters III: Athenian Potters and Painters III. Oxbow Books, pp. 175â186. Available at: https://doi.org/10.2307/j.ctvh1djzf.
Moore, M.B. (2007) âATHENS 803 AND THE EKPHORA,â Antike Kunst, 50, pp. 9â23.
Whitley, J. (1997) âBeazley as theorist,â Antiquity, 71(271), pp. 40â47. Available at: https://doi.org/10.1017/S0003598X00084520.
Bohen, B. (2017) Kratos & krater: reconstructing an Athenian protohistory. Oxford (GB): Archaeopress Archaeology (Archaeopress archaeology).
#look I don't know shit about anything so I might be so very wrong but everything op says about how the field dates Greek vases sounds insane#especially since you can. apparently. figure out where the clay came from????? why aren't you DOING that
(with apologies to @doloneia for chiming in here)
See, the problem with that approach is that knowing where the clay comes from doesnÂŽt give you a date of when the vase was made - at best it would give you a date of the formation of the claybed (hope thatÂŽs the right word in English). We can approximately tell when a vase was fired via a method called Thermoluminescence dating, but that is VERY approxomate and as far as I know mostly done to fnd modern fakes.
Normally - or at least unless you are a classical archaeologist with a certain training, grumble, grumble - weÂŽd prefer to date by stratigraphy and correlations with historic cultures with calendar systems we can translate into ours. Radiocarbon, if need be, but that is also somewhat imprecise and canÂŽt be done on clay directly (on accont of not being an organic material). Dendrodating - dating by yearrings in trees in wood closely associated with the pottery in question - would be really nice, too.
And for various reasons, almost none of that is an option. Like, we can manage stratigraphic sequences at least for some sites and regions, but thanks to the prolonged fallout from the Bronze Age collapse, we lack secure associations with historic cultures, and wood does really, really not survive well in the Greek climate. On top of that, chronology in the rest of the Eastern Mediterranean and Egypt is also somewhat shaky during that time.
So we are in a situation, where we can fairly reliably date the last pottery from before the BA collapse (aka the Late Helladic B/C transition) and then nothing, really, until the Middle Geometric period at the earliest. Mostly, if I recall correctly, trading relationships with the Near East start up again at the end of this period around 750 BC and apply therefore mostly to (Attic) Late Geometric. The lengths of style phases before that are estimations.
All of that is before we go into the obsession of dating things down to a decade or two via style, an approach one of my professors called "an exercise in vanity" at one point. The problems with that op has thoroughly pointed out, but there are legitimate obstacles to doing it differently.