so has any human being who isnât an MRA or a troll or a terf in disguise actually used the term âcotton ceilingâ or
Iâm an MRA and Iâve never heard that term before. What is it supposed to mean?
it means nobody likes you go away
Gonna assume itâs not something Iâd ever say then.
Cotton ceiling is the tendency of trans women to be excluded from the higher echelons of (cis-dominated) womenâs and queer spaces â specifically within the porn industry, but also society in general. It is a manifestation of transmisogyny at the intersection of cissexism, misogyny, and the glass ceiling
I mean I donât use it, and I donât really understand it etymologically, and I think itâs couched in a lot of fancy language which means a lot less than it says, but⌠I donât see whatâs wrong with it, eitherâŚ
You donât see whatâs wrong with womenâs underwear being called a barrier to be broken through?
the underwear being referred to ISNT the cis womenâs; itâs the trans womanâs (or fat, disabled, nonwhite, etc. woman- the cotton ceiling often refers to radicalized bodies in general). the implication is that what is in the trans womanâs pants is excluding her from spaces and connections, and itâs something she needs to overcome. transphobes twisted the language the other way to demonize trans women.
Dude, I was around for the Cotton Ceiling Conference.
Like, literally irl around. It was hosted nearby, even, and I spoke with Morgan Page, one of the people presenting it.
It distinctly referred to the underwear of lesbians who refused to find trans women sexually attractive.
But hey, donât take my word for it! Letâs hear from Avory Faucette, a trans activist involved with the Cotton Ceiling:
[T]he cotton ceiling [is] us[ed] to challenge cis lesbiansâ tendency to support trans causes generally but draw the line at sleeping with trans women or including trans lesbians in their sexual communities.
Drew Deveaux, the originator of the term, is even more specific:
âThe cotton ceiling is a theory proposed [by trans porn star and activist Drew DeVeaux] to explain the experiences queer trans women have with simultaneous social inclusion and sexual exclusion within the broader queer womenâs communities. Basically, it means that cis queer women will be friends with us and talk day and night about trans rights and ending transmisogyny, but will still not consider us viable sexual partners.
The term cotton ceiling is a reference to the âglass ceilingâ that second wave feminist identified in the workforce, wherein women could only advance so high in the workforce but could not break through into positions of power and authority. The cotton represents underwear, signifying sex.â
So right there from the horsesâ mouthâ
The cotton ceiling represents underwear, signifying sex, and the underwear in question refers specifically to lesbiansâ
Please, donât try to retcon history to someone who watched it go down.
They are trying to backtrack and rewrite their own disgusting misogynist terms to make them more palatable to the masses. Nope. The cotton ceiling is most definitely rape culture rhetoric. Anyone who says otherwise is flat out lying because they know how disgusting it makes them look.
âSexual exclusionâ. What a rape-y thing to call womenâs natural boundaries.
^ From the horses mouth (again)
^ âBreaking sexual barriersâ (implying that the âcottonâ part of âcotton ceilingâ = womenâs underwear to be âbrokenâ through, as one would wish to âbreakâ through a glass ceiling)
^ Even from a pro-trans perspective this sounds entitled and rape-y as shit!! More examples here and receipts of trans people using the term unironically here.
lmao look at them trying to redefine the word
Of course they are. They got called out for what it is and now it has to be the terfâs fault somehow.Â
















