For reference, I'm on PC. I use mods, but that is not the issue. It's a tagging problem, and affects everyone. To see for yourself, mak
Xan here. Remember how I never got into Fullbody outfits, in the original Trans Sim tutorial? Well, I am honor-bound to get into it a little. Why? Because I made a discovery, and it's...not great.
TL;DR: The Part Flags for most of Life & Death are messed up. Trans Sims are wearing the wrong meshes and it cannot be avoided; EA has to fix it.
If this concerns you, please upvote the report, and spread the word. They have ignored the Sims community about gender-related glitches in the past. Help us make them fix this, so we don't have to.
In-depth explanation about the problem below.
I was stoked to see we got clothes for both frames in the newer packs. Finally, Sims can wear whatever gender clothing they want! That's the goal, right? But, recent testing made me wonder how they handle opposite-frames. I thought I could learn something to help with inclusive tagging. So, I stuck Carmen in a dress from L&D, and:
It passes from the front, but...her chest. That's the opposite gender distortion. The one caused by putting a AM (masc frame) mesh on any AF (female) Sim, trans or not. I've definitely talked about this.
I went and cloned both meshes to check the tags, and sure enough:
Quick tagging lesson: toggling Restrict Opposite Frame means Carmen can't wear the AF one. She has to wear the AM frame dress, because as a trans Sim, her frame is AM. (Literally, the Opposite Frame of her gender.) But because she has breasts, she inherits the chest distortion all female Sims get wearing a man's top. The same applies for Erik, her counterpart (AM w/AF frame).
With a sinking feeling, I went back to the game and tried...everything.
I ran out of space, there are more. Trans-men are the same. I got halfway through the AM catalog and ran out of willpower. I'm betting almost every item made for both frames in this pack is tagged wrong. It's locked by frame, instead of gender. With pants, that's not a problem--but tops, dresses and suits will all be swapped.
So, now we know Fullbody meshes work similarly to tops. They need to be locked by Gender. And it's really just that tag. To test, I went back to my cloned dresses, and fixed it with two clicks:
This means all women regardless of frame can use the AF, and all men can use the AM. And here's the result: AF dress on AF Sim, AM dress on AM Sim. They literally swapped dresses.
So, easily fixed! That's 2 files out of...all of them. (sigh) I filed a Bug Report, linked above. Hopefully the amount of evidence I provided will get an actual response. That, or they'll think I'm an arrogant prat for telling them how their game works. But, I didn't break it.
Moral of the Story: this is a great example of what not to do if you make cc, or if you retag what you download. Remember, if you want to limit who can wear a mesh:
"Restrict Opposite Gender" for Tops and Fullbody; this makes sure all AF and AM Sims wear their meshes, and don't end up with chest lumps.
"Restrict Opposite Gender" for AF Bottoms; Trans-AM Sims break in half. Don't Restrict AM Bottoms at all. They fit everyone.
Or, Don't Restrict Anything, if you want all options. Note: distortions will happen. Mark your gender filters. They help a lot.
Earrings, Hats, Makeup, Gloves, Socks, Tights work for everyone
Necklaces and Nails are "Restrict Opposite Frame"; Trans Sims can't wear these from their own gender. They don't fit.
If you got this far, thank you for sticking it out. My innocent question turned into a tagging lesson (again). But, if it helps anyone in the future, I'll be glad. At least now we know there's a problem.
Please boost the Bug Report, share if you found it useful, and thanks for reading. I'm on the soap box again re: trans inclusion, but it's still Pride and I can't not stand up for my people. The more we know, the better we can do on our side.
Finally, tagging some folks who might want to know, if they don't already (feel free to ignore): @sejianismodding @the-crypt-o-club @yooniesim @whyhellosims @thefoxburyinstitute @sims4tutorials @mmfinds @gncc
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glitches appearing: the stomach will appear wider (the sim can't wear high-waist pants) and overbuild shoulder and neck muscles. As the clothing uses the male built (to flatten the chest) this glitch is unfortunately unavoidable:( (At least i don't know how to fix it)
im am VERY late with this but i was very sick last week i couldn't finish this edit on time :( but better late than never!
i decided to celebrate this important day (as i am non-binary/gender fluid myself) by making an edit with some of the Trans sims i made in the past few months <3 also decided to do a bunch of fun info graphics about them! i used some tiktok filters to have fun with the squishmallows choices! ( i didnt feel like making a poster for my simself lol just look at my tumblr bio and i use she/they pronouns thanks <3 sjfvbskjfvb)
ย so i hope you enjoy! <3
(if you want to view these in HQ(highly recommended please) click on the image or open in new tab <3)
Oh and if any non-cis simmers want it/donโt know, you can use traits.equip_trait trait_Breasts_ForceOn andย traits.equip_trait trait_Breasts_ForceOff to give sims chests/take them away. You enable them in love mode and then go into CAS.
Like if you have a male sim/female frame male marker sim and want them to be pre/no top surgery you can give them their chest back.
Same for female sims/male frame female marker sims for no chest, since the game automatically takes them away. You couldnโt adjust the chest size on Spellcasters last time I checked though :/
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We Exist
We Have Always Existed
We Will Always Exist
So! Transgender Day of Visibility is March 31st, and it means a lot to us, so we wanted to highlight a few of our trans and nonbinary kids from various time-periods, at various stages of transition! Featuring:
Faire Nys (he/him) - Battle Mage; knew from age 4
Erik Lumine (he/they) - Diplomat; nonbinary, wholly unconcerned
Carmen Arma (she/her) - Aristocrat; never questioned it
Martin Weatherbee (he/him) - Shelter Manager; transitioned at 30
Yuri Cheng-Chekhov (she/he) - Intelligence Agent; still figuring it out
Poses by @natalia-auditore @akuiyumi @lady-moriel @ratboysims @sciophobis and @atashi77
Models (left to right, top to bottom): The First, Faire Nys, Hyatt Vil II, Erik Lumine, Carmen Arma, Martin Weatherbee, Selene Schafer, Dema Khrushchev Lubari & Yuri Cheng-Chekhov.
Ms. Raye wasnโt too happy with Afina moving in, and then to also regard her as male put the nail into the coffin. Carson didnโt realize how un-empathetic his mother could be especially in this time of need. That lead to a yelling match which lead to Carson and Afina both being kicked out by the homophobic ice queen. It seems all they could settle for is skid row and a part-time job...
โDid Dad really just put his hands on me?โ Afina thought,ย โDonโt you dare touch me ever again!โ This caught her father, and mother, who was hastily running up the stairs, in a state of shock.ย
