Three Reasons Why I Love Guy of Gisborne (That Arenât About His Looks)
There is a popular idea in the RH fandom that people like Guy primarily because Richard Armitage is hot. Â Iâve had thoughts about this for a while, but I just caught a glimpse of an old post in which that notion plays a prominent role, and thought, what a good way to procrastinate!Â
Iâm not about to argue with the observation that Richard Armitage is good looking, and I donât think may other Guy fans would. Â But the idea that this is the main reason why most of us like him is, frankly, wrong. Â I would argue that it tells us more about the fans making this claim than it does about Guy fans.
The first two are my personal reasons, which others may or may not share, and a final one that I think probably is a popular, if not the most popular, reason.
1. Guy is a âbadâ victim.  Iâm in the middle of reading a Charles Dickens novel right now, and while thereâs a lot I love about it, the characters whoâve undergone enormous amounts of emotional and physical abuse and remain little saints who never have a bad thought about those who abuse them? Completely unbelievable. Guy isnât like that.  The complete absence of any compassion towards him when he was vulnerable shows in his lack of compassion for those vulnerable to him. The abuse he endures in his relationship with the sheriff is manifest in a number of ways, one of them being his abusive treatment of others.  Iâm not saying this is a redeeming quality; it obviously isnât.  But it adds something to the characterâs complexity that we can see how his behavior does make sense to him in light of his own experience.
2. Guy is negatively affected by his own toxic masculinity.  This is a show that is rife with toxic masculinity, but not only does Guy face consistent consequences for his bad behavior, heâs also unable to recognize his own vulnerability because of self-deception.  Itâs very important that he see himself as a person with power and agency, even though heâs mostly lacking in both of those things.  When Marian asks him why he works for the sheriff in 2x6, he replies, âI have no one, so I choose power.â  First, itâs pretty obvious that he doesnât have power of his own; all of his power comes form his relationship with the sheriff.  Secondly, his not having anyone is not necessarily a choice; he hardly chose for his parents to die.  We donât really know why he sold Isabella; his reason is that Thornton âoffered a good price for you.) Yet if she were so worthless to him, why does he disobey Prince Johnâs order to kill her, the decision that leads to his arrest?  Why does he give her poison so she can choose her own death? We might ask similar questions about his declaration to Vaisey that he will âtake [Marian] by force in 2x13. Itâs certainly what Vaisey wants to hear, but it doesnât ring true coming from a man who so clearly wants Marian to want to be with him.  We see in 1x13 how important pleasing her is to him; not to mention that if he actually wanted to rape her, heâs had two seasons in which to do it.  Mostly notably in this case, though, the sheriff doesnât believe him.  He reunites her with Robin so they can die together because he knows he canât fully trust Guy as long as sheâs alive.
Maybe Guy actually believes all of these things; maybe he doesnât. Â But all represent his wish to disavow his emotions and vulnerability, which he ultimately fails to do. Â What makes these lies most harmful, though, is that others believe them. Â His response to Isabella in particular ruins any chance of a reconciliation between them.
3. Guy is someone with a deep capacity for love, in spite of everything. Â The most popular Guy and Marian posts feature the scenes in which he jeopardizes his relationship with the sheriff, not to mention his own life, for her, so I donât feel the need to go into detail about those. Â In all we see of his relationship with the sheriff, heâs being taught to value position, wealth, and power, so why would he choose a woman who is constantly flying in the face of the sheriffâs values? Even though she is a noblewoman, her behavior obviously makes her a bad choice considering what Guy is supposed to want. Â And yet he falls in love with her, takes all these risks for her, and then pleads for Megâs life in 3x9 just because she reminds him of Marian. Â We donât know how many years heâs been under the sheriffâs thumb, but given how loyal he is, even at the risk of losing Marian, I gather it has been a while. Â And while not all of his horrible treatment of Marian is done at the sheriffâs behest, his love for her is at the heart of all his refusals to comply with the sheriffâs wishes, even after her death. Â He is, to be terribly cliched, a cold-hearted man who is transformed by the power of love for a woman, and thatâs has always been a popular story with women (even when the man is ugly. Â Hi, Mr. Rochester!)Â
To bring this to a close, there are a lot of reasons to love this character.  That some fans seize upon Guyâs looks as the most common reason is, to be honest, rather insulting.  Thereâs nothing wrong with superficial appreciation, but singling that out erases a plethora of more thoughtful reasons.  Itâs no surprise to me that this argument is made by fans who minimize Guyâs trauma and abuse, and label those who do examine these things âvillain apologists,â take everything he says at face value, and are highly selective in the moments from his relationships that they acknowledge.  I would say that they are the ones who have a superficial appreciation of Guy, not his fans.
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I remember reading Ichabbie fic of yours and loving them, but can only find one story on FF and AO3. Is there any chance you'll publish them again?
I think I only posted one of my Ichabbie fics on FF/AO3, yes. But the rest of them are still on my tumblr. Try my ichabbie ff, sleepy hollow fanfiction, or ichabbie tags; I made a masterpost with links once, but those were under my old url, so I am not sure they still work. Of course, the one constant in every fandom/friend I have is that we hate how Sleepy Hollow screwed us over, alas, so I probably wonât go back and upload them separately anywhere else. But yeah, theyâre on my tumblr -- you might have to dig a bit, but they are. :)
It's so good to see you turn up on my dash and reblogging 9 postS out of 10 from your blog! I hope you and wife are OK, stalking while reblogging says you are.
Ok, so tumblr wonât let me answer this privately because itâs being weird, but itâs good to be here and to hear from you, @thymelady! Never apologize for lots of reboots... thatâs how I know I have good taste! đ I go through days when Iâm on tumblr a LOT and days when I barely log in because What Is Time, but in general weâre doing ok. No one is sick, we still have jobs, weâre eating pretty well, and all of the animals are glad weâre home all the time.
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âwhat the shit do I have to do to get GoT off my dash? I have blocked...â
I tag # got and # got spoilers. I hope it helps. <3 Sorry about Twitter, all up in feels. I understand if you mute/unfollow. Stay strong! Six eps this season.
Ahhh donât mind me being cranky when I actually should have been in bed. People should post/tweet what they like, and I can manage my own consumption thereof! But I do appreciate knowing what hashtags to block.