"How did you and the Captain become friend?" he asked, interested about his colleague's life. And also, to learn a little bit more about Kirk, in a way that wasn't distorted by brash storytelling. "You two do not seem like you have much in common at first glance." A comment that was also self-reflecting. Because the Captain had a way to make people feel like they belonged in a group. And he himself was at odds with Kirk. And McCoy.