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MAJOR THOR: RAGNAROK SPOILERS

that was a M A Z I N G holy crap like when it comes to Loki you always at least half expect him to pull something so when you see the double get made I just kinda sighed like ‘yup there he goes, here it comes’ and then Thor didn’t fall for it for a SECOND. and on top of that Thor’s like ‘AND I already got this taser thing on you’ like DANG SON they’ve been brothers for like a thousand years, and he’s finally pulling his own tricks and maybe Loki finally pulled a heroic stunt, lets see how long this [doesn’t] hold[s] or if it was just an ‘I’m saving the universe cause I’m one of the idiots who lives in it’ situation. It’s hard for me to tell sometimes, maybe I’m a bleeding heart, that’s part of why I think he’s a brilliant character but that’s another rant and pot that I don’t actually want to stir 

I think I have two favorite parts, a funny part and a serious part. 

The funny part is the part where Thor tells the others about that trick Loki pulled on him with turning into a snake and then stabbing him when they were eight and then Loki grinning about it like they’ve been getting up to this shit since they were tykes. The way Chris Hemsworth delivered it was a ride like ‘oh, okay, turning himself into a snake sounds like a thing he’d do beca--... oh, okay Thor loves snakes, that’s adorable and totally unexpected, now he’s gonna pop back into himsel--AND THEN HE STABBED ME’ and the says the stabbed part like that wasn’t even the worst part of it like Thor’s offended not because of the stabbing (which is the asgardian equivalent of getting pinched, I guess) but because now he can never trust a snake again or something.

The serious part was Thor and Loki’s final conversation with Odin. Odin was not the best father, Thor and Loki were not the best sons (for wildly different reasons) but the way Odin spoke of/to each of them was a great reminder that these three really are family (and oh man bringing up Frigga - never forget that Loki was a mommas boy. never) and bringing the scene to Norway was such a great choice. Not just because ‘oh yeah cause they’re based on Norse gods’ and it’s a nice touch, but because it reminded me that their lives are nigh incomprehensibly longer than ours. That Odin’s perspective on a life and the universe is so much bigger than what we understand, and even what Thor and Loki yet understand, because while the last 10ish years of the MCU have been everything to our perspective on their world, it’s just a short epilogue on the massive story that would be Odin’s life. That will be Thor and Loki’s (and Sif and Valkyrie’s) lives. 

What makes this my favorite Thor movie is that that idea, the idea that while these characters look and act human (and they have never felt more human than in this movie, imo), they do not live human lives. Thor’s movies have tried to make this point before, like in The Dark World when everyone was telling Thor how it wasn’t going to work out with Jane because she would simply be a short chapter in his life, it never actually hit me until this movie. Bruce has never been to another planet before; Thor has been to many. Doctor Strange filled a whole movie with the concept of the MCU’s magic; magic is barely a footnote to Thor’s movies, as ‘that thing Loki does’, ‘oh, they have it on earth now’. “One time when we were eight, Loki played this prank on me”; that was a thousand years ago and we tell this story to new friends now. 

I can already feel MCU fans, and in-universe MCU characters, rightly lining up to ask Thor, “Why the heck are you trusting Loki like this again?” And I wanna ask this question, too. Loki’s got a sympathetic backstory, yeah, but his actions have resulted in the deaths of hundreds in The Avengers alone, and changed the landscape of life on Earth in the MCU. (I’m a sucker for a well done redemption arc, and even I’m still one to make aggressive hand gestures at “killed 80 people in 2 days”) But this has all taken place in less than ten years. How many hundreds more before they’re telling The [First] Battle of New York story at parties, right after “the first time Thor bodily threw me at one of our teachers so we could run for it before they’d see what we’d broken in the courtyard”? 

In Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2, Peter’s biggest concern about being an undying celestial was that he would lose his friends. If he was going to outlive anyone, who could he connect to? What would he do with himself? If you’d gone a thousand years without a single person who knew you, really knew you for the hundreds and hundreds of years of experiences that you are, and then finally found someone else like you, someone who’d known you a thousand years ago, wouldn’t you want to stay with them? To have someone to connect to, someone who gets it? Even if they’d wronged you, wronged the world in the past, would it be an act of desperation, or had you thrown that line away a long time ago? (Isn’t that what Ego had been looking for?) How much easier is forgiveness in the scope of a lifetime so out-stretching our own that I can’t even begin to think of what I might do in half the time they have? Do Thor and Odin and Loki and Frigga and Valkyrie and Sif even think about these things, or is it so much so just part of the world they live in that it consciously influences their choices only as much as the thought ‘you only live once’ influences our own?

This is probably way more than you asked for ( ; ‘ u ‘ )

tl;dr: my favorite part of Thor: Ragnarok is that it’s been almost 2 days since I’ve seen it and I’m still having the existential crisis that a comedy movie gave me

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this was so much of what I thought of the movie but much more eloquently put that I could have managed, and also OH MY GOSH YES. "HULK! For once in your life /DON'T/ SMASH!" "...BUT...BIG MONSTER :C"