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Every time I read a book by Samuel R. Delany (or another good book that makes me go "what."), I wish there was a fandom for it the way there's a fandom for Good Omens. Give me 1000-word metas about all the symbolism I missed; give me essays on cultural context; give me master posts cataloguing minutia and speculating about meaning (literary analysis. what I want is crowdsourced literary analysis). I love having access to this community that thinks a lot about storytelling and particular pieces of media, and I guess now I'm so spoiled by having people to share an obsession with that going back to being alone in my reflections feels rough.
The Einstein Intersection by Samuel R. Delany
Jack Gaughan cover art to Samuel R. Delany’s The Einstein Intersection
assorted slap-dash notes and lingering questions on the Einstein intersection by Samuel R. Delany (I haven’t been able to find much of any discussion about it on-line yet):
Significance of lobey learning that dove was le, not la? Why did he seem so distressed?
Mirrors the earlier confusion had over le dorik - is it because the le gender is a symbol of their nonhumanness?
is the city originally supposed to represent a closer imitation of humanity? With their taboos over differentness
an individual of their own alien third gender who nevertheless took only female forms - vs le dorik who never depicted themself as other than what they were but was nevertheless misinterpreted (as closer in line to human conceptions)
maybe: the dove specifically is also in line with the city in their clinging to the human
Lo Lo-bey
Sayaka Murata’s concern with “what type of animals we/humans will be/become”
trying to fit in the cast off / left behind bodies and souls (!) of humans - but they and humans’ myths don’t fit right
in trying to keep themselves to a human template, they cast off some as unfit/unsuitable
what’s the significance of the le in the beginning who dies?
humans haven’t necessarily died. they had very advanced space travel - implication is that they left to who knows where beyond the knowledge of those who have taken their place
I actually liked the relationship between lobey and friza - she actually felt like another individual and so the horror of her death and temporary revival struck harder
how was green-eye the one to kill her? (presumably the second time she died?)
I like delany’s prose a lot - it feels like he doesn’t need to say everything at length but trusts the reader to understand, understated witticisms/casual cleverness
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NGL, I want to talk about the Einstein Intersection if anyone is available? Like I know the posts everyone is into is GRRM but other people won Nebula and Hugo awards and I wanna talk about the ones that are black please 🙏🏾 🥹 Delany did some legendary shit with the Le Lo La and the idea of discursive gender can we discussssssssssss please!
"Let's talk about mythology, Lobey. Or let's you listen. We've had quite a time assuming the rationale of this world. The irrationale presents just as much of a problem. You remember the legend of the Beatles? You remember the Beatle Ringo left his love even though she treated him tender. He was the one Beatle who did not sing, so the earliest forms of the legend go. After a hard day's night he and the rest of the Beatles were torn apart by screaming girls, and he and the other Beatles returned, finally at one, with the great rock and the great roll." I put my head in La Dire's lap. She went on. "Well, that myth is a version of a much older story that is not so well known. There are no 45's or 33's from the time of this older story. There are only a few written versions, and reading is rapidly losing its interest for the young. In the older story Ringo was called Orpheus. He too was torn apart by screaming girls. But the details are different. He lost his love -- in this version Eurydice -- and she went straight to the great rock and the great roll, where Orpheus had to go to get her back. He went singing, for in this version Orpheus was the greatest singer, instead of the silent one. In myths things always turn into their opposites as one version supersedes the next."
- “The Einstein Intersection”, Samuel R. Delany
