Problems in tech support # ???/??? akaĀ āWow youāre literally incapable of hearing what Iām saying, arenāt you?ā
So thereās this caller that I just especially dislike... letās call her... Kathy. Kathy is just... remember Ben Stein in those Clear Eyes commercials? That extremely slow monotone drawl? Throw in a āUMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMā about every 7 words. Thatās how she talks.Ā
Anyway, Kathy is stupid. Like, has no grasp of troubleshooting or basic understanding of how anything technological works, doesnāt understand why she shouldnāt write down passwords on Post-It notes and stick them to her monitor (no, seriously) stupid. And she calls in and asks dumb questions, all the fucking time, and gets pissed when she doesnāt get the answer that she wants. As 90 percent of the time itsāĀ āokay, thatās not how that worksā and notĀ āOMG THIS IS A HUGE ISSUEā
Anyway, Kathy calls in this morning and says that her Outlook is frequently going not responding. Said itās been doing it since yesterday. Not a huge deal, probably a simple fix, but it takes like 5 minutes for her to get that out, as she talks so drawn out and slow with 8000s UHHHHS thrown in, and always always throws in pointless irrelevant information that she refuses to stop giving. Iāll cut her off withĀ āI donāt actually need to know thatā and sheāll just ignore me and keep talking for another few minutes
So Kathy asks what causes Outlook to go not responding. I told her that thereās not one definitive reason, that itās a symptom of a number of issues, and without taking a look at her computer I canāt say for sure. But said it could be that she hasnāt logged off and restarted in a while (most likely culprit), that she has too much open, her Internet connection, that her mailbox is too large, the server sheās on is having issues, could be a settings issue, etc.
Kathy hearsĀ āInternetā andĀ āserverā and goes:
Kathy: OH. So I have Internet connection and server connection issues?!
Me: No. Thatās not what I said. I said it could be those things. Those are possible issues, but likely not the cause.
Kathy: *point blank ignoring what I just said* Okay okay. So itās the Internet connection...
Me: No. Most likely not.
Kathy: *again, still ignoring me* AND the server... hm, well I guess I can tell my manager that thatās whatās going on
Me: Kathy. Thatās not necessarily the issue
Kathy: *still not listening* Itās just I canāt work like this! *goes on a rant about theĀ āInternet and server issuesā (that she probably doesnāt have)
Me: Kathy, it could be other things. I can try and--
Kathy: *cuts me off* Iāve had to deal with this for two days
Me: Okay, so itās probably not the server. And since no one else is complaining itās probably not the Internet
Kathy: And the server and internet--
This goes on for a few more minutes. Sheās literally ignoring what Iām saying and hearing whatever she wants. I have NO idea why she does this, but she, and other Boomers, and yes I specify Boomers because itās almost always them, just hear whatever they want when it comes to tech support issues, regardless of what I tell them.
Example: Kathy keeps forgetting her password. Idk if itās because sheās getting older or what. But she calls in, all the goddamn time, because sheās locked her account from entering in her password incorrectly too many times. Now, I can see that sheās entered in the incorrect password and how many times, and the times sheās done it at. I canāt see her password or what sheās entering of course (which she doesnāt understand, always asks me to tell her what her password is and gets angry when I canāt), but I can tell sheās not entering the right one. We go through this several times a month. Sheāll insist that thereās something wrong with the system, and of course, thereās not. Sheās just forgotten her password.
So, I have her reset her password, and always tell her to Ā make sure itās something that sheāll remember. Make it something easy for you to remember or recall. Add an extra symbol to a password you normally use or the title of your favorite song, something.
Kathy hearsĀ āmake sure you remember itā and writes it down. And sticks it on her monitor
I should note that Kathy is an assistant to some of the shareholders and partners at the firm. As a result, she has access to some HIGHLY secure and classified information.Ā
And this fucking idiot keeps writing her passwords down and putting them on her monitor. We keep telling her not to do this, so sheāll get rid of the post-it. Then forget her password. Iāll tell her to set to something she can remember. Sheāll hearĀ ārememberā and write it down and put it back up. Weāve been doing this over and over since Iāve been working here, which is over a year now.
To get back on point. Itās like talking to Kellyanne Conway. Sheāll take a word or a phrase from what youāve said and turn it into whatever she wants. She hearsĀ āmake your password something you can rememberā and hereāsĀ ārememberā and writes it down. She hearsĀ āInternetā andĀ āserverā and hearsĀ āThis specific issue is caused by Internet and Server connectionsā. Sheāll hear āthe program canāt do thatā and sheāll hear ācanāt do thatā and turn it into āI canāt do thatā and shout about me not knowing what Iām doing. I can tell herĀ āno, thatās not what Iām sayingā and she doesnāt hear it at all.
What kills me about this, and Boomers in general is that this isnāt an isolated incident. Or a rare one. They literally hear whatever they want to hear, and get angry when itās not the case. Or just ignore it not being the case. They hear āI canāt do that for you because itās against store policyā and hear āI canāt do thatā and nothing else. Itās almost amazing
Anyway. I go back and forth with āKathyā for several minutes, and sheās literally not processing that her issue is likely not an internet or server issue. Iām sayingĀ āNo, thatās not itā And she (literally, verbatim) goesĀ āOh, okay okay okay, I got it. So itās the Internet and Server connectionsā (hand to God that happened). Ā I goĀ ānoā and we repeat.
After about 10 minutes (mind you, Iāve not been able to do anything to actually assist her) I finally decideĀ āfuck it, the local techs can do itā and put in a ticket and send it over to them because I can only take so much stupidity in a day.
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Problems in tech support #???/??? akaĀ āSometimes Tier 3 sucks tooā
So weāre having some issues with some of the virtual servers at work. Waaaay above my head, so I have to send it up to tier 3. Now, thereās 3 servers that users have been having severe slowness and freezing on. Iāve been on 2 of the 3 servers and can personally attest that thatās whatās going on. So, I reach out to tier 2 (because weāre supposed to go to them first), like 5 times before someone finally getās back to me and says send it up to tier 3 and have them reboot the servers. No shit, but whatever.
So I call it into tier 3, tell them to reboot the servers. Conversation goes like this:
Me: Users on servers [insert server names 1-3] are having some extreme slowness and freezing. Iāve been on [insert 2 server names] myself, and can attest that this is an actual issue. Just sending a 5 word IM took me 2 minutes, and everything keeps freezing.
Tier 3 tech: Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Me: .... so anyway, I spoke to the local techs (tier 2) who asked me to have you guys reboot the servers (because they have the fucking servers).
Tier 3: Uhhhhhhhhhhhhh.... well fuck
literally, saysĀ āwell fuckā
Okay. W/E
Tier 3: Do you know if thereās people logged into those servers currently?
Me: Well, I canāt say for certain, as I canāt check that (BUT THEY CAN), but probably?
Tier 3: Can you check?
Literally Ā just said I canāt, bro
Me: No. I donāt have that type of access. But-
Tier 3: *sighs* Ugh fine I guess Iāll just log in
... wait you werenāt logged into your computer??
So I hear typing for a minute or two, and the guy goes:
Tier 3: Well... normally weād have to get everyone off of those servers...
Me: I canāt see whoās on them, so I canāt call them or email them to notify them. But you can do that.
Tier 3: Yeah... uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
*silence for a few moments* *long sigh*
Tier 3: Look, Iāll see what we can do about it.Ā
Me: ??????????
Tier 3: Thanks. *hangs up*
WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU MEAN YOUāLL SEE WHAT WE CAN DO?? YOU ARE THE ONLY ONES WHO CAN DO THIS
And before you ask, no, Tier 3 guys was not new. Heās been working for tier 3 longer than Iāve been working here and Iāve spoken to him several times before. Normally heās much more helpful, but Iām guessing tech support just broke him like it inevitably breaks all of us
Problems in tech support # ???/??? akaĀ āFuck me for being good at my job, I guessā
Not a specific interaction but this happens frequently enough to be annoying
I literally get people who will complain about me solving their issueĀ ātoo quicklyā. Literally. Theyāll call in with a simple problem they thing is a big issue. Itās not. I solve it in a few moments and go about my day. A while later we get a complaint that I solved the problem too quickly and oftenĀ āmade them feel stupidā akaĀ āIt was a dumb problem and by you fixing it you made me feel dumbā.
Had a lady a little bit ago with just some minor Outlook settings she Ā needed changed. About a 2 minute issue tops. Remoted in with her, fixed everything, and she proceeded to get increasingly agitated thatĀ āthat was itā.Ā āThatās it? Thatās all you did? Just change this and click that?āĀ āYepāĀ āSo you didnāt do anything else on your end?āĀ āNo.āĀ āSo you fixed this issue that quickly???ā
OrĀ āI need you to remote in with me immediatly!! BLAH BLAH BLAH EVERYTHING IS BROKEN AND BLAH BLAH BLAHā *remotes in*Ā āOh, this isnāt an issue. Itās just a message letting you know that XYZ (some minor pointless thing).ā *Hits OK*Ā āYouāre all set?āĀ āWHAT DO YOU MEAN IāM ALL SET MY COMPUTER IS BROKEN?āĀ āNo itās not.āĀ āSO YOU FIXED IT THAT QUICKLY??ā
... yes. What the fuck are you mad about??? Would you have preferred I spent hours and hours working on your computer? I will never understand this. Why get angry at someone for helping you out too efficiently? I guess if you wanted to have an excuse to waste time and not work, maybe? But most calls start off withĀ āI CANāT WORK AND IāM GONNA GET IN TROUBLE AND ... oh wait... you fixed it already? WELL THATāS NOT POSSIBLE YOU HAD TO HAVE DONE SOMETHING ELSE BECAUSE YOU CANāT HAVE FIXED IT THAT QUICKLY!!!ā
Problems in tech support # ???/??? akaĀ āFuck you Marie pt 2: Electric Boogalooā
So, Marie (from this and this) calls back in. I guess sheās feeling embarrassed about her litany of stupid calls because she gets superĀ awkward when she realizes itās me.
Anyway, call goes something like this
Me: *generic greeting*
Marie: Iām trying to print these labels, but when I go to options thereās no labels
??????
Me: ...trying to print them from where?
Marie: What?
Me: Where are you trying to print the labels from?
Marie: Iām trying to print filing labels.
Me: Okay, I got that. Where are you trying to print them from? What program? Word, Outlook? Are they PDFs..?
Marie: *Not listening* Iām trying to print filing labels and when I go to options thereās no labels
FFS
So I remote in with her. Sheās in Word. SHEāS ON THE MENU TO PRINT LABELS IT SAYSĀ āLABELSā ON IT YOU FUCKING TWAT
Me: ... so youāre trying to print labels.
Marie: Yeah, and thereās no option for labels.
Me: *circles my mouse around the bigĀ āLABELSā tab sheās currently clicked on* Youāre on the option to select labels
Marie; Well, it normally says like... Avery 5266 or--
Me: *notices Marie is clicked on theĀ āMicrosoftā labels list, not the Avery ones*
Me: *clicks onĀ āAveryā*
Marie: *clearly not listening or looking at her screen* *continues rambling* Everything is different and now the option to print labels is gone..
Me: No, itās--
Marie: *cutting me off* *continues bitching*
Me: MARIE. Itās right here.
Marie: Oh... it looks different.
Me: Do you know the size of the label youāre trying to print?
Marie: No.
Me:... can you look at the labels? It should say on the box, maybe on the back of the labels
Marie: ....
Marie: *CLICKS AWAY FROM THE AVERY LIST TO A TOTALLY DIFFERENT LIST* See!!Ā This normally says AVERY!
Me: ... you literally clicked away from the Avery list
Marie: ... well... it normally says Avery
Me: It did. Thereās numerous Avery sizes. *clicks back on Avery* Which one are you trying to print on?
Marie: *again, not listening, continues bitching*Ā
At this point, I just take my headset off for a little bit, click around in flight rising, so I have no idea what she actually says
Me: *repeats myself*
Marie: ... I guess I can try... but thereās normally a 5266
Me: *clicks on 5266. ITāS RIGHT THERE. RIGHT IN HER FUCKING FACE* This one?
Marie: *Let me see* *SCROLLS PAST 5266, GETS DOWN INTO THE LIKE 5400S* Iām not sure...
Me: You scrolled away from 5266. What size label--
Marie: *not listening* I guessĀ Iāll just have to try these...
Thereās like 500 different sizes
Me: If you look at the labels themselves, it should have a size on ...
Marie: *starts bitching again*
Problems in tech support # ???/??? akaĀ āNo, I canāt find the changes to a document you worked on a month ago and didnāt save because you didnāt fucking save themā
So thereās this guy that always calls in because he never fucking saves or closes out of his documents. Heāll work on a document for days and just leave it open the entire time, without actually saving it once. Then, heāll shut down or log off, or Word crashes or whatever, and of course the document closes.
Now, often weāre able to find auto recoveries or auto saves of the files if he calls in soon enough. But today, he called in about a document heād worked on a fucking month ago, and admitted he hadnāt saved when heād closed out of it, and asked me if I could find it for him. Call goes kinda like this.
Him: So I need help recovering some changes I made to a document.
Me: Ok. Ā Is--
Him: Like, a month ago.
Me: ...
Me: A month ago? You havenāt opened it or anything sense?
Him: Ā No. Iām pretty sure I didnāt save it when I closed out of it. Can you recover the changes
Me: To be frank, itās a long shot, but Iāll look
For some reason, heās super reluctant to tell me any info about the document, the document number, title, etc. So I have to drag it out of him by reminding him āI canāt find a document if I donāt know what it isā. And I do find a record of the document on his computer, along with dozens and dozens of auto recovery files (aka heās been crashing Word without closing out of docs), buuuut it doesnāt have any of his changes.
Him: Well, this doesnāt have my changes
Because you didnāt fucking save them you twit
Me: Well, unfortunately this is the only copy of the document on your system. Since you closed out of the document, and it didnāt crash, Word didnāt generate any auto recoveries, and itās been a month, so your temp folders have cleared.
Him: Well, canāt you just get it from my auto saves
Me: Itās not there.
Him: Well... this one doesnāt have my changes! Normally when I call in the person I speak to (me, itās always fucking Ā me) can find my changes!!
BECAUSE NORMALLY YOU DONāT WAIT A FUCKING MONTH AND KNOWINGLY CLOSE OUT OF A DOCUMENT WITHOUT SAVING IT
Me: I get that. But, itās been a month, and you didnāt save it.
Him: Well, where else can you look?
Me: No where. I literally did a search of your entire system, thereās no copies of it anywhere, except for this one
Him: BUT IT DOESNāT HAVE MY CHANGES!!!
Me: Uh huh.
Him: Well. Can you escalate this and have someone do a more thorough search?
Me: Sure. Iām not sure where else they could search, since I did a search of your entire system, but I can absolutely send it up. But, frankly, the odds of them finding anything, since you didnāt save the document or check it back in, and waited a month, are pretty nil
Him: *angry huffing*
Me to me: Yeaaaah, this is a whole lotta not my fucking problem at this point.
Me: Sure. Iāll send it up.Ā
Him: I just donāt understand why you canāt find it
BECAUSE YOU CLOSED OUT OF IT A FUCKING MONTH AGO AND DIDNāT SAVE IT AND YOU KNOW YOU DIDNāT SAVE IT.
Me: K. Have a great day.
I sent up a note about him to the local techs to ask someone to please sit down with this fucking ass clown and teach him how to save and close out of documents, because he calls in all the fucking timeĀ for this. 9/10 when he calls in, itās because he needs a document recovered. And itās not like his system is crashing or something, he just wonāt fucking save documents and close out of them, even if heās put days worth of work into them.Ā
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Problems in Tech support number ???/??? akaĀ āIām not a fucking mind readerā
Long post.
Okay, so we use Outlook and a document management system called Filesite at my job, right? And both are fairly customizable view wise. Thereās the base/default way it comes, but virtually everybody adjusts it; changes font size, color, column/row placement reading pane, etc. So, no two peopleās are necessarily alike, and thereās no set way to arrange the view.
But people seem to have a MASSIVE amount of difficulty understanding this. On occasion, since weāre virtual, something will change on the server side, causing users to lose their customized Outlook settings. We have no way of retrieving this, and no way of knowing exactly how things were previously set up.
So, I get a mind numbing amount of frustrating calls that are virtually me explainingĀ āNo, Iām not aware of how you personally customized your Outlook, the Outlook that I donāt have any access to unless Iām remoted in with you.ā
Example:
Caller: My outlook is broken
Me: Whatās wrong with it
Caller: It doesnāt look right
Me: Okay, what doesnāt look right about it?
Caller: It doesnāt look how it normally looks
Me: How does it normally look?
Customer: *angry confused ranting*
So, I get a call from this woman named Barbara. Barbara is old and the embodiment ofĀ āYou canāt teach an old dog new tricksā. She canāt adapt to any sort of change, if something isnāt 100% exactly where it was, she canāt figure out how to do it. Sheās alsoĀ āIf I donāt understand it, it must be wrongā (I once spent 45 minutes explaining Outlookās recall feature to her, which she didnāt seem to grasp that once an email left our servers, we cannot go into another companyās servers and retrieve it, especially if they arenāt using Outlook. I even pulled up the Microsoft KB that point blank explains this, but she was still insistent that I didnāt know what I was talking about).
Anyway, Barbaraās office recently did some server upgrades, and they were notified, several times, that this will likely change their Filesite/Outlook settings, and that they might want to take screenshots of how things are set up, just in case. Barbara of course ignored this. Barbara calls in, hangs up on the first person she gets for reasons she refused to explain, gets me, and asks me to remote in with her. Which I do. Call goes like this:
Barbara: My Filesite looks wrong.
Me: Okay, whatās wrong with it?
Barbara: *spends about 3 minutes ranting about how much she hates when things are changed blah blah blah*
Me: *repeats myself*
Barbara: *rants some more*
Me: *lets there be awkward silence*
Me: *repeats myself*
Barbara: It.. just doesnāt look right. This isnāt how it looked before.
Me; How did I look before?
Barbara: Well, I canāt see the attorney name
Me: You mean the author?Ā
Barbara: Yeah
So thereās a preview pane on the side, thatās causing it to display in compact view, so I moved it to the bottom so the author column was showing, verified this was the column she was looking for, but she still said it didnāt look right
Me: Okay, so what else is wrong with it?
Barabra: Well, it looks very smushed
Me: Is it that the columns arenāt wide enough?Ā
Barbara: No. They look all skinny
Me: ... so theyāre not wide enough?
Barbara: Yeah
Me: *drags some of the columns to resize* Does that look any better?
Barbra: No. Itās all small
Me: Is it the font? Would increasing the font and spacing help?
Barbara: No.
Barbara: *again rants about change*
Me: OK. So what else is wrong? Are you Ā missing any columns or fields?
Barbara: No
Me: is the preview pane in the wrong spot?
Barbara: No
Me: Is the order of the columns wrong?
Barbara: No
Annnd thatās about the only way things can be adjusted, outside of like, font type and color
Me: Okay, well can you remember how it looked before?
Barbara: No.
Me: Can you tell me whatās wrong with how it looks now
Barbara: *hems and haws for a bit*
Me: *repeats*
Barbara: No.
SO WHAT THE FUCK WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO DO?
Barbara: What are the view options
Me: There arenāt anyĀ āviewsā like there are for Outlook. You can customize the columns, their size and font, the preview pane positioning, etc, but thatās about it because thatās all Filesite displays.
Barbara: So you canāt tell me what the views are?
Me: There arenāt any.
Barbara: That doesnāt make any sense
Here we fucking go.
Me: Barbara, Filesite and Outlook have different views. There arenāt any preset ones you can click through to see what looks appealing like you can in Outlook. You actually have to adjust them on your own
Barbara: *clearly not at all listening* Well, you guys fixed it once before
Wrong. The issue last time was that it was glitching, so we just relaunched it. Before that, it was the preview pane was in the wrong spot, so we moved it to the side where she wanted it
Barbara: So youāre telling me you donāt know how to fix it
Me: Barbara, thereās nothing broken. This is a customizable view. If you want to me to change it, you have to tell me what you want changed.
Barbara: *again, still not listening* So you donāt know how to do this?
Me: Thatās not at all what Iām saying. I know how to adjust Outlook and Filesite every which way. I just donāt know how you had it set up before, no one can know that but you, because you would be the one who either set it up, or told someone to set it up that way.
Barbara: *again, clearly ignoring me and hearing what she wants* Okay, well you guys fixed it last time *she starts clicking around* Was it under properties...?
Me: Barbara, there is not a single option or button that will just make your Filesite look how it was. You have to adjust the layout yourself
Barbara: No. Thatās not right.
We go back and forth on this for a while. Eventually, I circle back:
Me: So, you donāt know how your Filesite used to look?
Barbara: ... right.
Me: And you arenāt sure what you donāt like about how it looks now?
Barbara: ... right.
Me: And you canāt tell me whatās missing, or if thereās anything that will prevent you from working?
Barbara: ... yeah.
Me: *waits*
Batbara: *still not getting it*
Me: Barbara, You have to tell us how it used to look, or how you want it to look. Those are the only options.
At this point, Barbara starts getting angry, ranting about how things change without notice (sheās been getting daily notices for a week, at least) and how I should know how to do my job (I do) and be able to fix her Filesite (Itās not broken). I again explain that she has to know how she wants it to look, because I am not a fucking mind readerĀ and that concept seems to go over her head.
Barbara: Okay, well clearly you canāt do your job and you donāt know how to fix it. Bye. *slams down phone*
Soo, does anybody elseās job prohibit them from participating in fire drills?
Like, the office building Iām in does regular fire drills and testing, but weāre not allowed to get off the phones and participate. In fact, weāve never done a fire drill, so, tbh if there is an actual fire, I have no idea where weāre supposed to go or meet up. One time, there wasnāt a drill, the actual alarm was going off (turned out to not be an actual fire, just something was malfunctioning, but we didnāt know that at the time) and we still werenāt allowed to get off the phones and evacuate.
Doubt this is illegal, but just curious if anyone else ever has this issue
I just think your company's IT dept should know what programs and apps are on your company's computers. And that asking a third party vender for that info is weird.
(especially if that third party is not actually an IT/Tech support company)