love being able to geek out about Nezarec with you but hold on a sec
WHAT DO YOU MEAN HE WAS KNOWN TO THE HIVE?!?!!
WHERE?!? WHEN?!?? HOW?!?!
PURELY SPECULATION BUT. It's always bothered me that Sylok invokes the name "Nastareth" while he's being tortured and then manipulates the Awoken to forget what they were doing so they would torture him again. In his lore tab, he's apparently able to feed his worm through pain which is why he's manipulating the Awoken into giving him more pain.
Sylok is a Taken Hive knight that was a part of the Prison of the Elders in D1. You could fight him. There's literally only one lore tab about him. The name "Nastareth" has never been mentioned before or after, but it sounds fairly similar AND it's tied to pain. Nezarec's Sin describes Nezarec as a "final god of pain." Sylok very specifically says that Nastareth is "blessed." Pretty wild shit! Nothing about Sylok has been further explained or elaborated. The different but fairly similar name could be a language issue or a translation issue; Sylok is a Hive so he speaks differently and possibly has a different name for this being. Could also be that the name has been warped by different people over long periods of time.
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minor season of the haunted spoiler (kinda its a weapon flavor text) BUT I AM LOSING MY MIND
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WHAT WHAT WHAT?!?!
If Nezarec ends up being an actual character I'm going to lose it!!!!!!!
(especially cause his helm implied he was on the side of the Gardener)
I don't think Nezarec was on the side of the Gardener. His only lore tab is very much not the Gardener vibe. Another problem is that the lore comes from a "pre-Golden Age text." As in, someone (presumably human?) wrote this before the Traveler arrived to Sol (or it's possibly not human in origin: the helmet looks strangely similar to Psion helmets).
An interesting idea I had when the trailer dropped was that Nezarec popped into my mind when the season was describing stuff about how we're embracing the goth lifestyle and becoming reapers and death. I just had this wild association with Nezarec but didn't say anything because it felt so unhinged even to me.
Basically, a few sentences from Nezarec's Sin were just standing out: "He is that which is end." (Eris saying "this is the beginning of the end" in the trailer), "For Nezarec is no demon, but a fiend, arch and vile in ways unknown." (weird death-like symbology).
And then today I saw this weapon with this name. BAFFLED. Nezarec's Whisper lore tab doesn't clarify much however. It's not on Ishtar yet, but here's the thing (under the cut for easier spoiler evasion and length):
?? Very confused. Is the flavour text about Rhulk talking to Nezarec or to Eris? Who is Eris talking to? It says that she "whispers" and the weapon is called Nezarec's Whisper. But the glaive is specifically Rhulk's weapon so it being offered to Eris in the (assumed) Pyramid chamber is strange. Where does Nezarec come into play here?
Was (is?) Nezarec also one of the Disciples? One that Rhulk didn't fail with? Or something completely different?
Another thing that bothers me is the "yawning opening that empties into perpetual nothingness" that Eris sees. The rest of her surroundings look like the regular Pyramid interior (that we know of) but the open abyss?
Drifter might know a thing or two, given that he's allegedly visited the Fourth Tomb of Nezarec, but he is notorious for not wanting to share details. But the mention of a tomb (a fourth one no less) makes me think it's possible that Nezarec is some ancient being similar to Rhulk.
There's one other possible mention of Nezarec, though not spelled the same. It's from D1 when the Awoken are experimenting on Sylok.
Finally. Let’s see what we’ve… wh— what is that?
…Blllessssseeddd is the N-Nastareth!!!
There's a thing that connects the two other than the similar name (the difference could be due to Sylok being a Hive and therefore possibly saying it differently): it's the mention of pain. From Nezarec's Sin:
The final god of pain
From Sylok's rambling:
>Give him a jolt.
...Gragggghhhhhhh!!!!
>That did the trick.
>>Is he ... is he happy?
...Gragghh ...g-ggglorious pain!!!
And:
...The greater than anguish, the greater the reward...
...I know you. See your thoughts. I will use the pain. Reach in...
...Give me the pain. Take away all but agony. Through it, I transcend.
Destiny 2: Become Unhinged.
Ironically, Eris mentions how the veiled statue in the Pyramid is "vaguely feminine" but that she isn't convinced by its "apophenian silhouette." Apophenia is "the tendency to perceive meaningful connections between unrelated things." Like I'm possibly doing now with Nezarec lore.
Yes, I am absolutely obsessed with Nezarec lore and any lore that has like 2 mentions, that is my curse. So I understand you going insane over the name of the glaive because mood. Especially since it was on my mind when the trailer dropped and I thought it was so bizarre that I didn't even mention it. Alas.
Either Bungie is trolling us or there's more about this to come. I will lose my entire shit if we get more Nezarec lore, it's my second most wanted and interesting lore after the Aphelion.
