#sw timelines

Do you think her design is a design error that animators didn't think through as they like to do or do you think it actually indicates she's been away from the order for idk 3 months or something before she stumbles into the sisters? Also how much time do you think she spent with Bo-Katan (lekku growth again, new armor, they are kinda familiar with each other too) I have some thoughts but I'm not aware of any canon info on this. :')

okay let's break this down.

Design

No, the design is definitely intentional, considering Ms. Ahsoka 'D' (7.05-08) and 'E' (7.09-12) exist. They are two different 3D models and the lekku growth is noted on the character sheets. (and no, I have no idea what the Ahsoka C model is. Not mortis adult ver., not youngling ver., not Rebels adult ver., not monkey boots/original walkabout outfit)

Timeline

Actually, this problem is pretty simple, by using Anakin as a benchmark. Ahsoka met Anakin on Coruscant before he leaves for the Outer Rim Sieges in 7.06, and she saw him again during the Siege on Yerbana. So, Ahsoka stayed with Bo-Katan roughly as long as the Outer Rim Sieges has gone on.

ROTS novel states the Sieges to be 'five months' long (Ch 9). That is no longer Disney canon and does not comply with events of TCW really. so I suggest we compress the number to 3, the minimum for Padme's a baby bump to show. With 2021 Character Encyclopedia listing the Lawless arc as the earliest event in 19BBY,

it gives us the feasible timeline of: (month.week)

1.1-2 Lawless arc (5.14-16)

1.3-4 Wrong Jedi arc (5.17-20)

(2-3 Season 6, Utapau arc, Son of Dathomir, Dark Disciple Part 2, Thrawn Alliances)

3.3 Ahsoka's Walkabout (7.05-08)

3-6 Outer Rim Sieges

~5 Bad Batch arc (7.01-04)

6.3-4 ROTS/Siege of Mandalore (7.09-7.12)

In conclusion, after leaving the Order, Ahsoka spent about two months on her own, maximum two weeks with the Martez sisters and a little under three months with Bo-Katan and the Nite Owls. The Siege of Mandalore, as concurrent with Revenge of the Sith, takes about 10 days, as established in the rots timeline by allthingskenobi.

this rough work of course, neglects all hyperspace travel time.

Comments

After solving the problem, I realize it is not an intuitive reading. the lekku growth between models B and D (S5-S7) is greater than D and E (walkabout-siege), logically, then so should the B-D timeskip be longer than D-E. The feasible timeline says otherwise: B-D is 2 months apart while D-E is 3. Now I have to work backwards and suggest B-D is Ahsoka's growth spurt to explain the non-linear increase.

Last year, I initially based Bo-Katan and Ahsoka period together to be a month long based on similar observation: Not just the in-S7 growth is relatively shorter than between S5-S7, it was barely noticeable on the first watch, definitely so to the untrained eye. So I don't assume much time has passed. Especially, since Maul is an elusive target, and Bo-Katan claims, 'every minute we waste here, gives Maul an opportunity to slip away' (7.09) to highlight the urgency of the matter.

What did Ahsoka do in the blank months?

The Walkabout arc is written about an Ahsoka fresh from leaving the Order. Then, there was the Sith Temple arc in the original season 8, that was suppose to fill up the blank months after, and reconnects her back to the GAR for Siege of Mandalore. With the cancellation and revival, the Sith Temple arc is no longer compatible and thus Walkabout is pushed back to the brink of EP III. Therefore, we can only assume she travels across Coruscant, meditating and finding herself in the Force.

my timeline for Dark Disciple

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The BBY column is date in Earth 12-month years for clarity’s sake, so “19, 3” would be March of 19 BBY.

The Month.Week column is how much time it has been since the the start of the book. For example, Lethal Alliance/Ch 1-8 is marked as “1.1” to “2.3” in, which means the events span from Month 1 Week 1 to Month 2 Week 3, and the episode covers 1.5 months. All months are four-weeks long for simplicity. Contradiction #1

2021 Character Encyclopedia lists the Council’s decision to assassinate Dooku at 19BBY, which fits Plo Koon’s statement, “For almost three standard years, the war has raged,” in Chapter 1. However, the same encyclopedia also lists Ventress and Vos’s first meeting in 20 BBY. Contradiction #2

Since Ventress had lost her red lightsabers before the book starts, this places the book after her encounter with Ahsoka in 5.19 & 5.20, an event in 19 BBY. Otherwise in accordance with a 20 BBY starting point, the Ventress in Season 5 should’ve had hair and no red sabers. 

The current hypothesis puts Ahsoka’s fugitive days around Ch. 26, when Ventress is indeed on Coruscant, but would just have Vos’s green saber on her but not her yellow one she lost in Ch. 21

Conclusion

All things considered, I’m quite confident in my interpretation being the practical timeline. The inconsistent continuity is simply an unfortunate result of writers coming up with one idea before the other. The events of the Wrong Jedi arc might be necessary logistically (Ventress’s hair and sabers) but the emotional development in that arc does little impact to the same characters in Dark Disciple, namely, Ventress and Anakin. If the Wrong Jedi arc did happen sometime in Ch. 26. during the months she lost Vos, I don’t see why Ventress would want to divulge anything personal to another Jedi she despises. Her feelings of abandonment from the Jedi Order was independent of, and now might even be because of, what didn’t happen to Vos. I assumed Anakin would be less hostile towards Ventress since her testimony helped cleared Ahsoka’s name, but I realize his hostility might’ve even grown because he believed Ventress led not one, but two Jedi astray, this time a Master. I might even argue having Ahsoka’s leaving and Barriss’s betrayal fresh on the Council’s mind is one reason they are so determined in Ch. 34.

This is a timeline squeezing as tight as possible. I’m hardly giving them rest days and expect them to go from one mission to the next and handle it all within a day. Still, I cannot squeeze it down to the “canon-compliant” of within the first six months of 19 BBY. My estimate asks for at least 10.5 months for the whole novel to run its course. However, I prefer raising the minimum of “months” to at least three, thus gives a more instinctively natural 12-month story.

Was wondering how you got your placement for Episode III when making the Dark Disciple timeline? 6 months into 19 BBY seems a bit arbitrary and reevaluating when exactly Ep III is in 19 BBY, if we even have a way to establish that, may help out with the weirdness of Dark Disciples, sometimes, official 19 BBY placement

Dear Anon,

You are right. Star Wars: Timelines, current latest canon reference published in 2023 and two years after my timeline, suggests that Part 2 took place closer to Q3, 19 BBY. It stated that Dark Disciple took place from late 20 BBY to 19 BBY. The first half was concurrent with the Onderon arc in S5E02-E05 and the second half after Son of Dathomir and just before the S7 Ahsoka arc. This placement is acceptable to me.

Placing Ep III mid-BBY is an intuitive leap from the war having raged for three years from 22 - 19 BBY, looking for a middle ground. Timelines suggests the Clone War might have taken place from Q2, 22 BBY to Q4, 19 BBY, if all story arcs are taken in a non-overlapping manner.

Regardless, inserting DD into grander galactic events was not the intention of my personal timeline. I calucated the times to the tightest possible because I wanted to find out the minimum duration that Vos and Ventress need to spend together that made them decide to topple the galaxy for the other, and I arrived at 10 months. And apparently I wasn't the most strict with them if you go further back. To 2018, by Scum and Villainy's Galactic Standard Calendar conversion, they only had 8 months together. As you can see, timelines and sequence of events is a continuous revsision with every new publication.

Furthermore, I would suggest that sometimes official simplified DD into a 19 BBY placement is likely due to the significance of its ending outweighing the first half. Namely, it is more important to date the year of Ventress's death then the beginning of the plot.