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Rosado to Louis in English: I thought you were mainly interested in watching people socialize, though. Is it the same thing to watch me with no one else around?
Rosado to Louie in Japanese: But I thought you liked watching cute girls. I'm a man, you know. You're okay with that?
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I mean...while the localization doesn't specifically mention dead kids, it didn't specifically exclude them, either (as far as I remember). I'd naturally assumed dead kids were on the table based on history, so it's always a trip for me encountering other localization fans who DON'T realize there used to be more siblings.
Pardon the late response, but this is such a fascinating topic to me. The localization did specifically remove all reference to dead children. Where the original text specified that the children of the concubines killed one another, the localization walks that back to âthe suitors fought their own family membersâ (which, what does that even mean??).Â
So someone coming to Fates with no previous online knowledge, just the game itself, is very unlikely to assume that Marx executed siblings. Nyx/Marx, the support that spells out Marxâs despair most explicitly, loses its ambiguity to say that Xander regrets killing enemies during war where Marx said he regrets killing enemies in fighting (implication: half-sibs are a potential regret under âfightingâ, but not âwarâ. Savvy readers might note that it doesnât even make sense for Marx to feel bad about enemies killed in war because the Faceless have been used against Hoshido for his entire adult life but uhh Treehouse doesnât care about making sense so fuck you).
tl;dr the localization doesnât specifically deny dead children but it also deletes all specific mention of them, instead inviting the assumption that the concubines killed their own parents or siblings for...some reason. Localization-only fans are often confused.
Just out of curiosity, letâs go through some of these personal skills and how they were localized. Cut because it got long...
ä¸ćč°ăŞé ĺ / Supportive This does actually describe what the ability does, but itâs dry, which is an especially unfortunate choice for the main character. Iâd go with Mysterious Charisma or something along those lines. Mystic Charm? Hell, if character length is a problem even just Charismatic has a more special feeling to it than Supportive, which is a quality you look for in a bra moreso than a main character.
Itâs #justaquathings day I guess. The Shenmei thing in IK:
Ryoma: Azura, wait! This could be another trap! Azura: But... It might not be. What do I do? Avatar: Azura, you know. Azura: Avatar... You're right, of course... I will trust that this is my motherâthat she is telling the truth!
JP:
Ryouma: Aqua, wait! It could be another trap! Aqua: That--what should...I donât know what I should... Kamui: ...Aqua. Aqua: ...Kamui...th-thatâs right. I believe in my mother. I believe in her words!*
(*tbh Iâd like to put these last two sentences as âI believe in my mother--sheâs real!â because the words in question are âitâs really meâ, you know? You could tweak this a lot for maximum punch. Shenmei doesnât deliver any factual information the characters need to rely on so the thrust of âI believe her words are trueâ is less that itâs factually true and more emotionally that Aqua believes her mother is truly back. Translation! Itâs also just writing.)
Like, am I too steeped in anime if I believe that gently saying a characterâs name can be a sufficient reminder to stop them from freaking out? Did we really need âyouâre right, of courseâ directed at MC in this moment? Just how many avatar worship complaints are rooted in the translation of Aquaâs very neutral ăăă (which you could reasonably translate as âneutral gruntâ depending on context, and this is a phrase she uses a lot) into âyouâre right, MCâ?
And Azuraâs âBut...it might not be.â feels like the flattest possible translation choice for â âŚăăăŞâŚăŠăăăăăâŚç§âŚăŠăăăăâŚâ. Aqua is panicking. Sheâs not finishing a sentence. Japanese is super heavy on ellipses (theyâre not exactly native to the language so they tend to get used like decoration a lot) and itâs usually correct for a translator to cut down on them, but in this scene they serve to illustrate just how stressed Aqua is.
Like...this seems nitpicky, I know, but especially in a game with limited text space every line matters. In the space of just three lines, Aqua stutters where Azura speaks cleanly. Azura takes the time in between confronting her motherâs zombie corpse to tell MC how great they are where Aqua didnât. It makes a difference.

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I was digging through the IK end for other reasons and one little thing stuck out to me, one of those small changes that's part of a tapestry that makes a very different picture.
Avatar:Â Hahaha, I was so nervous. It was hard to hide that I was shaking so much.
Azura:Â Nervous? You jest.
Her response in Japanese: ăžăĺă°ăŁăăă
Aqua: Only another lie.
(or "I see you're still lying", or "you're lying again", or whatever other mutation you want to build from the same kanji)
It's the same intent--she doesn't believe him--but Aqua in Japanese has this sense of almost...serene rudeness, a lot of the time. She tells jokes with a completely straight face. She teases, but she's not bubbly about it (not until the final chapter of Hoshido, that is).
Changing her mild tease of "you're lying" to "you're joking" is a tiny change on its own, but it's part of a larger pattern of how Aqua was tweaked and made generally...nicer, for lack of a better word. Softened. Azura's voice is happier. Her words don't shut you out. She doesn't hide her feelings. She's not so blunt as to tease a close friend with "oh, what a liar".
What's up with the lines in Eponine's localized paralogue where she just has straightforward heterosexual cocklust instead of fujo thoughts
The Dumpster Fire of Niles
As we all know Iâm That Cunt who insists on Japanese names for FE14 characters because I feel the localization character rewrites are too significant to call many characters the same, but our current Warriors datamine shows something interesting: English Niles supports, but no original Japanese Zero supports. This is likely because the devs tried to scrub DLC data from the release file and didnât completely succeed.
Anyway, Niles is continuing his character devolution as a Xerox-of-a-Xerox.
His Sakura support, is, hilariously, almost a copy-paste of Zeroâs original Japanese Elise support where he tries to set her up for failure for his own enjoyment--which the English Fates localization whitewashed to Niles being a a kind spirit whoâs good with kids and wanted to give Elise a pep talk.
But Niles here is definitely trying to neg Sakura into fucking him.
Sakura: It's so sweet of you to worry about me. But I shouldn't be distracting you with my tears. Niles: (Ha! If only she knew how much I liked the distraction...) (This plan really backfired, didn't it?) That's right. I just think you need to toughen up a bit. Then next time you cry, it'll make it all the more satisfying. Sakura: You're right! Wait...what do you mean by satisfying? Niles: Oh, you'll find out eventually. Sakura: O-OK...I-I'll look forward to it. See you later! Niles: Hmm... She sure keeps me on my toes. Let's see where this little relationship takes us, shall we? Maybe one day she'll come crying right into my arms...
Itâs particularly awful character deterioration because itâs managed to completely lose the motivation of the bullying: Zero wants to see Elise fail because how dare this princess live a blessed life when he grew up in hell? But Niles wants to see Sakura fail so she can come crying into his arms.
But hey--itâs a type of consistent, right? NoA has already replaced Zeroâs schadenfreude with a desire to fuck young girls in Niles/Mozu (if youâre new to Fates, yes, him offering sex there is indeed a complete localization original).
Itâs now a canon, established, consistent through multiple games character trait that localized Niles enjoys fucking young girls.