In your opinion, what makes Caitlyn and Vi such captivating characters, and why do you think they’re so versatile when it comes to AUs while still feeling completely true to themselves and their core struggles?
I honestly don’t think I’ve ever seen a ship that’s as prolific in fanfiction. I’ve read them in practically every time period, every decade, every profession imaginable, and with every trope and yet they still work. As a writer, I’m really curious why you think that is. What is it about these two that makes them so adaptable without losing the essence of who they are?
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So what I personally love about Caitvi is they’re very much my flavour, I’ve mentioned before but I was deep into Swan Queen and Supercorp before Arcane came out and Caitvi is all my favourite parts of those two ships blended into an actual lesbian pairing and that’s why they hit with ME. They’re fun, and flawed and messy, Caitlyn’s got a ton of flaws, Vi’s got the tragic backstory, they have a dynamic relationship where they support and push each other? Overall I think they’re neat.
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Yeah, that. That’s what I like about them!
For the broad audience I think the first big appeal to them is just the novelty: that they’re a front and centre, no-homophobia romantic-subplot in a plot-driven series that isn’t niche horror, medical/crime or geared to children, they didn’t die, and they hit the niche with having a rare hot masculine dyke that owns it. To add to that, they’re very well designed/animated adult characters so they don’t feel cartoonish but they also aren’t real people so a lot of people feel more comfortable making stuff up about them. That drew in a lot of fans who I don’t think would have really cared for Arcane if they knew of similar options.
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I think the second big appeal is they are functionally equals that contain a lot of complimentary tropes. And some are more one sided — cocky rogue with the sheltered heiress, cheeky subordinate + details boss — while others they play either part. They’re both the tortured hero opposite the kindhearted damsel, they both have a fall from grace to hit different but equally devastating rock bottoms to save the other from, they both had childhoods missing something the other one has, freedom in adulthood they weren’t afforded in youth, fish out of water, being shown a new world, being the first person to recognize the other, they break up with the other one, save the other one’s life, etc. They’re the rich + poor from two different worlds romance story we’ve been telling for millennia, of course we can write them like that in a million familiar ways.
TBH, they’re much closer to what makes a typical m/m ship popular, which I’ve noticed is a supported theory by a hilarious number of times I’ve peeked a fic author’s history to see all m/m until Caitvi. I myself used to be a yaoi girly lol and I can see Caitvi echoing the m/m ships I had in like ninth grade on fanfiction.net lmao (1x2 iykyk)
And then you combine this smorgasbord of complimentary tropes with the fact that a lot of their conflict is circumstantial. The circumstances can demand they be enemies, so you can believably write them as enemies, or you can take external conflict away and they’re just as instantly believable as childhood friends. They argue and bicker about the how but they agree about the what, and push come to shove they work together so you can throw anything at them.
It’s like a big old basket of ingredients and you can pick and choose and make whatever type of dish you crave. And as long as you write them with complimentary traits they work to fit, which makes them excellent dolls to play with. You can take almost any story and put either one in either role. You want to do a comedy? They’re a pre-built buddy cop team where either one can be the stubborn impulsive idiot who says fuck the rules when it comes to problem solving. Want to do a romance where one coaxes the other into accepting love? Caitlyn’s too work focused OR Vi’s never had a chance to live for herself. You want to do whump? Cait’s delightful to torment emotionally, while Vi can get thrown in the pear wriggler. Even background swap - rich Vi + poor Cait - can still work and be fun to explore how their personalities would handle it.
The other thing too is, besides the playful banter from LoR bits, we mostly only know them by their flaws in times of high stress. We have NO idea what their happy moments look like, which makes it really easy to not get wrong lol.
Now this part is meant just observationally and non-judgemental at all, because I think AU fanfic shouldn’t be held to any standard beyond being a creative sandbox, and I fully cop that many people have said the same about my writing, but I find (still being completely true to themselves) to be a little YMMV, as imo one of the reasons lot of the fan works are so diverse is because personal experience/biases are interpreting the characters in hugely different ways. There’s a lot of fics that don’t interpret the girls anywhere close to how I do lol, to the point that feels to me they may as well be original characters; but the characters that are written are still complimentary in terms of traits. And I think people still enjoy those because it’s the complimentary energy Caitvi offers that they’re after in reading fic, plus a space to explore situations/gender/lifestyle etc. , not so much ‘analytical process of would she fucking say that’.
(I think a lot of people want to get seduced by a confident Vi and rewrite Cait as a relatable proxy which, understandable fantasy, but not what I’m personally going to fics for)
I don’t think OOC is necessarily bad. For an example, Rumours Vi is OOC. I know she’s OOC, I could never imagine Arcane Vi to be Like That lmaoooo. But I wanted to have fun lampshading fuckboy behaviour and Arcane Vi does have a cocky posturing habit, so I just RAMPED that shit up in order to have fun with it. And her being Like That was the goal to lead her into evolving into a more recognizable echo of Arcane + League Vi, and I think that fun and recognizable evolution is why the fic got so big (despite the fact Vi’s obnoxiously ooc lmao). I made Caitlyn a quieter version of herself to be complimentary, but I kept her impulsivity and stubbornness. Going into Players, they’re both being written with their League personalities in mind so now I get to pick different flaws to ramp up for my own tastes and amusements.
But getting away from myself, that’s more or less why I think Caitvi works for a lot of people. They’re a super fun dynamic and complex characters made up of very familiar stories we’ve grown up, which makes them ripe to pick and choose traits to isolate to play with, or throw them into different plot mazes and see what paths they work out.
oh and they’re written to be obviously obsessed with each other, with is catnip for writing porn lmao
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wearing low cut clothes next to a boob obsessed person on purpose would be sooo fun, like what do you mean u can't handle yourself? that you can't look at me without feeling all bothered?
that you try to look away but you just gotta stare when i fix my clothes and have to grope them around? huh? you need a moment for yourself? of course you do. i can see that wetspot on your pants, pervert.
playing chain of memories proves that we are god's strongest soldiers because we did not get a single moogle room card until THE LITERAL LAST WORLD BEFORE YOU UNLOCK YOUR SECOND BATCH OF WORLD CARDS. I'M NOT KIDDING WE HAD NO CARDS OTHER THAN GIFTED SUMMON CARDS AND THE RARE OVERWORLD CARD DROP
literally until this moment when we got to halloween town and used our first ever moogle room, our deck was unironically
the kingdom key cards you start the game with
a SINGLE wonderland keyblade card with value 2
a single <6 copy of every summon card from the story events where they give you one
two blizzard, two gravity, one stop
one SINGULAR FUCKING FIRE CARD
our friend kept making jokes about gambling and gacha games and we were like "I literally do not know what you're talking about, all I have are chests that KEEP GIVING US SLEIGHTS WE CAN'T EVEN USE!"
we basically never used sleights because they all just kind of sucked and every boss fight would take 5+ reloads so we couldn't really afford to lose any cards. we straight up didn't use magic for like three worlds because what's the POINT when it barely exists in this game?
but in spite of it all, our struggles have apparently sculpted us into a powerful warrior, for our friend ALSO gets mad at how good we are at this game. like unreasonably cracked. I don't know if the gba version is supposed to be easier or what but out of every boss fight up to and including Larxene we first-tried, outside of Cloud of all things? who we second-tried. despite the sorry state of our deck
honestly we should talk about our kh experience more because this friend spent so long hyping up Riku Ansem as THE hardest boss fight in this game, it's gonna be CRAZY, it's gonna finally force us to finally start learning new combat mechanics we've been ignoring and-
we were a few hits away from first trying it, which we fought with random-ass pickup items filling our inventory. as soon as we set some actually good items we immediately beat him without really struggling at all. turns out we play kh games like they're dark souls (we've never played a souls game before) and that combined with leaf bracer turns out to be the exact perfect way to win that fight
anyways we'll probably detail our kh1 playthrough sometime but know that we beat the entire game with un-upgraded aero and cura being the only spells we ever used. and also despite being Donald Duck's biggest hater we would waste mp on reviving our teammates all the goddamn time because we felt bad about leaving them downed
Queer people don't want your fucking worthless compassion; we want your support, your solidarity, your friendship, your love. We want people who will stand up for our rights, not just people who will "tolerate" us as long as we "leave them alone." Fuck all the worthless self-proclaimed "allies" who spout some of the most anti-productive shit I've ever heard and are actually horrible to the gay people they know in their actual fucking life.
Fuck all the people who "don't care" about gay rights. Yeah - I said it. Just because you aren't actively oppressing gay people doesn't mean you're not homophobic. You might not be shoving me into a locker or pushing me down the stairs but you're still treating me as "other" - like I'm a fucking joke. Like I'm a fucking gay wind-up toy that you pull the string and I say something "gay" and then you laugh and drop me back into the toybox without a fucking care in the world.
Fuck all the people that say that queer people existing is an affront to their "religious rights." You have the right to live however you want to live, no matter how fucking backwards it is. You have no fucking right to use the government to prevent me from living my life the way I want to. And I want to be my fucking self. This wasn't a choice. You think I'd want to fucking choose being treated as "other" and ostracized and never fitting in?
Fuck the people who pressure other people to come out or spread the knowledge of a person being gay when that person is clearly uncomfortable with telling other people. You have no fucking idea what it's like. How dare you say that you should "just come out" because "everyone knows." Yeah, and I don't want them to fucking know. They know because of you. So when I have this tiny fucking illusory scrap of control over the knowledge of my identity in my hands I want to fucking keep it. It's mine; it's me, and that's something you'll never be able to understand. Never.
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fuck I want to bully a shy girl so bad right now...
I wanna wear croptops and deep collar shirts around her just to see her struggle trying to avert her eyes from my tits
I want to purposely bend down when im wearing mini skirts/tight shorts right on front of her, and laugh at her when her blush deepens
I want dykehandle her, grabbing her thighs to make her sit closer to me, sinking my nails on her nape when I want her to pay attention to me
I want to sneakily grope her tits over her shirt, complimenting them, might even pinch her nipples to hear her moan if she looks like she's holding herself back
I want to be able to wrestle her down, playfully fighting her over something minor, just so I can watch that pretty wet spot grow on her crotch as I pin her wrists and dangle my tits over her face. if she complains I might lie down on her <3
being on video call, just chatting or playing something till one of them needs to have a snack break or something
waiting till we are alone so I can say "hey, watch this" as I pull up my shirt n lower my bra, watching their extremely flustered reaction, their stuttering words, seeing how badly they mask the want in their eyes
maybe the other friend takes long enough so I can play with my tits a bit, shaking them n pulling my nipples. maybe they get back almost instantly n I have to hurriedly dress up before they can notice something was happening
either way, we'd have to continue the call like normal and pretend nothing happened, all while the lucky friend tries to process what just happened and later, maybe ask for a more... private call with me
hi I'm Sunset and this is my little blog of nsfw content! I post pics, write original stuff, draw some lewds and reblog whatever I like ^^
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