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i have some thoughts about the new saints row reboot. [NOT SPOILER-FREE]
i decided to write down some of my own thoughts, feel free to (respectfully) let me know what you think!
characters— i really like the new crew, even if they feel a bit "2-d." neenah had a great character arc, even if it was short. i understand her resentment to sergio and her attachment to her project car. eli is your typical side-character geek, but without him, the new saints empire wouldn't be built. eli definitely knows what he's doing, even if he's a bit of a klutz. eli and neenah contributed lots to the depth of the new saints row, but my issue is with my favorite of the new crew- kev. kevin is adorable, he's cute, but he lacks the depth and arc i would've liked to see. he's almost like comedic relief, and definitely has worse motives than that of neenah and eli's. the nahualli seemed like your average handsome villain, but even he had me fooled. i don't think nahualli should have been a villain, even so— volition could have changed his motives. how does he go from thinking friends are liabilities to becoming envious of the main character, their friends, and even their life within weeks? on the other hand, we have atticus marshall. i liked having him as an antagonist. atticus had a very genuine and understandable reason to dislike the protagonist, rather than nahualli becoming envious, the collective and their idols wanting to take down everyone (because they're anarchists [but not really]), and los panteros- now led by sergio, with tensions rising between neenah and sergio because of disagreements, and eventually destroying her property (definitely a better arc). regardless, there's plenty of potential to work with, to shape and mould into genuine, relatable characters, but volition somewhat lacked in the creation of a solid plot and characters we can relate to.
plot + storyline— i appreciated the start of the new saints, we've come full circle. just as the third street saints had once done, the new saints built their "empire" in a run-down church. i thought it was a cute reference. the continuation of plot and story, and the villains is a major issue. the nahualli had extremely bad motives, almost lashing out at the main character with jealousy. literal backstabbing could've worked, but not in the "im-going-to-steal-your-friends" way. the climax of the story, nahualli stabbing the main character and burying them alive, evoked lots of shock. it was definitely unexpected, and i appreciated that, but his motivation for doing so upset me. the storyline moved way too quickly for me though, it felt a bit "casual," rivalling saints row: the third's short length. things felt rushed, many things felt kind of unimportant, especially the saints becoming the saints because of rivalry and student- fucking -loans, but some moments within the game, such as the main character choosing to shoot or terminate atticus marshall from his own company— they felt amazing. seeing the saints go from a rag-tag friend group, to a "gang" operating out of a church, to an empire within santo ileso felt all too fast, like it was weeks, rather than months as canon suggests. the issue isn't with the beginning of the story at all, or the marshall arc, but the nahualli. the nahualli wasn't a very good villain, even if i enjoyed his character. i know volition could have done better at the end of the game, but the beginning definitely hooked me.
critics— i don't believe the reboot deserves all the hate it gets, it has innovative and streamlined gameplay, and is plenty of fun to play, with a beautiful open world to explore. however, i don't think the reboot is a good open-world game. there's plenty of effort, beauty, and detail put into the open world, but we don't use it much outside of ventures and side hustles. however, i feel like the reboot of saints row lacks an audience, it lacks the soul we know in a saints row game (at least to me.) saints row (2022) is a very solid game that lacks a specific audience is wants to appeal to, and even so, i feel as if it's target audience is "quirky millennials." it doesn't feel different, but it does have the little references to the older games i always wanted to see. i can tell volition poured a lot of love into the new saints row, but as times change, so do video games. i prefer the gritty, cynical humor of the original saints row, but maybe it was time to retire the old crew and their humor, as much as i adore them. the comedy in the reboot felt a bit dry. game critics seemed to be too harsh on this new game, though, clearly expecting to see what was surface level in the older games. with enough attention to detail here in the new game, the references kind-of reveal themselves to you. i believe the shit-storm of hate was not deserved, but i personally also think the reboot is not the best saints row title. however— the reboot wasn't given a chance to prove itself as a truly solid game.
overall— i see people in the "old saints row fandom" saying this new game is woke propaganda. clearly, it is not. it's a game about shooting things, just as is any other saints row game. the same people complaining about the "random bullshit" also fail to realize that random bullshit was thrown into the mix, and is what made saints row: the third and saints row IV: re-elected. people are definitely entitled to their opinions, 100%, but i'm willing to discuss thoughts about this new saints row game. i don't think this game has the best writing plot-wise, or character-wise, but volition could have gone different ways with saints row IV: re-elected, as well as agents of mayhem, and even the johnny gat spin-off. each game has a very strong suit, but lacks in many other ways. overall, i don't think this reboot is the worst project volition has released at all, but it is far from the legacy saints row 2 and saints row: the third both collectively have. with an open mind, all complaints and dislikes about this new game are valid, but ignorance is not key. perhaps a reboot is what saints row really needed, but volition may have gone about it wrong, —or even did it right. it all depends on what you think. nothing will stop you from enjoying or disliking this new game, and that is fine.
Honestly, this new Saints Row game could be fucking amazing but we wouldn't know cuz it is been marketed so badly.
Like seriously. I do not remember them ever been this bad at marketing. Even with SR4, the marketing wasn't the bad part, it was just not a game that was going to go down well with most fans.
I have the damn pre-order page just sitting open on my phone. However I can't comfortably pre-order it because their marketing is so fucking bad I can't make neither head nor feet of it.
Like I am not buying this damn game until I am sure there is a good chance I will not regret it. Especially after how much I regretted buying SR4.
I honestly do think that this will be a good game and that it is just the marketing letting it down. However I stopped giving Violiton that benefit of the doubt back in 2013.
I really want to pre-order this damn thing but I do not want that damn pain I got from SR4. It's so frustrating.
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