It took me far too long to realise this, but thereās a nice visual parallel between the breaking of the Speakerās mask and the state of the Travelerās shell post-plot. From familiar figures throughout the first game (but distant, closed-off, enigmatic in manner and motive) to prisoners throughout the second, that distance gradually shattered in finality and rebirth. I hope she whispered to him at least once, before the end.
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Osirisā pointy beak helmet is undeniably cool, but what I feel is equally undeniable is the likelihood he has stabbed himself in the face with it at least once.
Glancing between the Dawning and some mysterious event known only asĀ āThe Dawn Calamityā like...alright, out with it, who ruined space Christmas that one time.
As grim and gloomy asĀ āa world without Lightā is, itās funny picturing this army of conditionally immortal soldiers, who have all died at least a couple of times before, suddenly having to scratch casually taking a bullet off the list of viable tactics.
At least one person goes to jump down from some fatal height and remembers nearly too late; ends up aborting their heroic charge into a graceless flail of limbs as they reel back and tumble ass over teakettle from the edge.
Someone goes,Ā āShit, I think I broke my wrist, let me just-ā and is immediately greeted withĀ āNOOOOā and their fireteam wrestling the gun out of their hand.
Nobody hereās used decent triage in seventy years and their attempts are questionable at best. Also it turns out pain is a lot more inconvenient when you have to experience it for more than ten minutes at a time? What the hell. Theyāre learning all kind of respect for the civilians, but also what the hell.
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I had a few questions that I wanted to ask after you beat the game to avoid spoilers: what do you think Shin's relationship to the Guardians are like now that they have been humbled by the experience of losing their Light? How was he affected by the loss of Light? What is his relationship with the non-City humans like both before and after the campaign?
Mate, we are clearly on the same line of musings here [highfive]. And for the record, if you have thoughts of your own on this subject, pluh-huh-hease share, I am keen.
As far as I know Destiny 2 didnāt add anything to Shinās story besides an acknowledgement he exists?Ā That could be a hidden primer to summarise it for new players in preparation for material further down the line, or it could just be random puff piecing; either way, thereās nothing that says where Shin is or what heās doing during the game, which is a little unfortunate because that would really useful for sussing out his character. A Shin who has been helping a non-Farm group of survivors on the other side of the occupied City would be demonstrating a different set of priorities than a Shin who hesitates, looking back at the flames, and then continues dogging the trail of the Shadows of Yor.
So, you know, fair warning that without that canon specification the responses below are even more guesswork than usual.
Iāve mentioned before that as much as I genuinely like Devrim as a character I would have loved to have seen Shin in his place, because thatās the kind of answer I want to give toĀ āwhat is his relationship with the non-City humans?ā I like to think that Shin has spent his post-Yor years focusing on everyone outside the walls, keeping tabs on the settlements still out there; offering to escort them to the City if they wish, but also offering to help them maintain the home they already have. Heāll deal with a pack of Fallen that have been harrassing them, scrummage up needed supplies, pitch in to mend a broken roof - whatever they need that he can give.
If thatās at all true, then heād get on famously with those settlers, and also with ex-City folk like Hawthorne who grew disaffected with City life for whatever reason. Heād be understanding of her issues with Guardians and approving of her protectiveness towards others, and sheād find him more down-to-earth than those Light-blighted battleheads in the Tower who are oh so willing to go be heroes but probably couldnāt tell you the names of half the civilians who work among them. (Neither of them are entirely fair in their attitudes towards the City, but cranky kindred spirits are still kin.)
However, that could all beĀ wishful thinking. Maybe he sees his role more as the watcher of the watchmen, the silent sentinel crouched in the distance, guarding the secret of Thorn. Maybe Hawthorne would find his story somewhat sympathetic, but judge that he ultimately still falls into that big picture blinkering that she clearly finds grating about Guardians (āitās for your own good,ā they say, and restrict access to the wilds or push you away from the fight or run away to Titan right when you need them). Maybe the only relationship he has with those outside the City are the awed murmurings of the one of their kind who rose to the Light.
I live in rueful admittance that there may come a day when Headcanon Shin and Canon Shin diverge severely enough that they end up glaring at each other in high offence.
I do think, either way, that Shin would care about the destruction wreaked on the City, and the loss of the Light would absolutely be a shock to the system. Heād be better braced for it than the rest of the Guardians - lessĀ āwhat am I now, how do I fight this fight when I only have one life to give?ā, moreĀ āoh, back to me againā, and heās been trained to fight as a simple mortal - but he clearly regards the Light and presumably the Traveler with enough respect that having that fire snuffed out would be a hollowing feeling. He has a very personal attachment to the Light, after all: heās the only Guardian we know of to have consciously agreed to take the duty on. Thereās also his Ghost, who is quite probably his last link to Jaren and his childhood: having it abruptly fall out of the sky would be hellishly emotional. Itās been there throughout some of the worst moments of his life, its known him since he was a boy, they shared the loss of a man and a home they loved and they shared the vengeance on the one who took them, and now itās is crumpled and weak and maybe dying and he has no idea how to fix it. Thatās gotta be hard.
To that end, I donāt know whether heād regard Towerfall as aĀ āhumblingā experience for the others. Weāre getting into the finer nuances of headcanon here, but I see him as having a bit of a confused mix of feelings about the Tower and the City: thereās some real bitterness for sure, but there are also still the remnants of the hero worship of his youth. āIf you had to live like we lived,ā heād think sometimes, āif you had to lose what I lost-ā, and then they do and they have and thereās no satisfaction in it. He never wanted his story to be anyone elseās, not really, not truly. Somewhere, deep down, a small boy mourns for the final shattering of the dream - for the promised paradise of the last safe city, shining even in the night.
In that sense itās almost more of a humbling for Shin; perhaps the kind that finally draws him behind the walls as more than a fleeting visitor. They areĀ making some changes of their own, after all, with Hawthorne on board and efforts to make the Tower more integrated with the rest of the City. Maybe heād be interested in having a voice in that. Maybe heād have found himself with a greater appreciation for their perspective, even as they got a glimpse of his. Maybe with the Traveler blossoming a-fresh overhead heād finally, tentatively, wary but willing, start to shuck the ārenegadeā tacked on ahead of Hunter.
eyeb0t said: osiris crashing on your couch simulator
Worst person to watch a movie with, refuses to do it in linear order.
hokuton-punch said: Congratulations! \o/ I AM ALSO VERY EXCITED AND I NEVER EVEN CARED ABOUT OSIRIS BEFORE BECAUSE FUCK TRIALS
Iām not going to pretend that part of the reason behind my big olā eye emoji feelings are that this seems to maybe be the beginning of them rolling out a whole bunch of stories focused on characters? Like if they give this same treatment to the Rasputin DLC that will be...incredible. And then who else might we get? Shin, Toland, the Sovs? Eeeee.
hokuton-punch said: They have an economy to rebuild! Ā Pottery is a valuable step! Ā Local craftspeople must be supported
Gonna rebuild this city out of vases. The walls are fused glass and clay. Your food and water is delivered in amphorae. Every window is a mosaic.
(Though now Iām kind of laughing at it being like,Ā āWhen the City fell, our medical district was obliterated, the farms burned, our foundries collapsed...āĀ āSo what do we have left??āĀ āWell, the craft district is completely unharmed [hands over a vase]. How do we feel about memorial wind chimes?ā)