Okay im gonna be so fr I have no idea why people are saying that one guy in the fnaf trailer is Michael Afton HELP. Iām gonna attempt to settle some of my fellow Michael Afton fanās nerves here a little (and my own). Listen I know fnaf can make some⦠questionable writing choices. But I really donāt think that one guy in the fnaf 2 movie trailer is supposed to be Michael like at all.
1. If this guy is Michael Afton (aside from that just in general being such a nonsensical choice to make) then that would imply that Mike Schmidt is a separate character from Michael Afton most likely. Which even though the games and movies are separate canons the characters in the movies still seem to be like at least based on the game characters. Using this logic this would practically make Fnaf 1 not really super relevant to the main overarching storyline anymore.
2. Why the hell would they put Michael Afton in the movies at all? Okay so first of all Vanessa and Mike are both like basically if you split up Michael Aftonās character into two people (to me anyways). Mike is trying to right the wrong he did as a child and is desperate to make up for letting his siblings down. A lot of the time the way he behaves is also reminiscent of how we see Michael kind of behave (heās kinda sarcastic like how we see Michael in the logbook). Also thereās the fact he has a little brother he blames himself for losing, and a sister whose name is literally a nickname of Elizabeth!! Then thereās Vanessa who is very secretive she lies about her identity (Michael does this in the games a few times), and sheās in general kind of stuck between a rock and a hard place, but she also most importantly and most in common with game Michael is somewhat of a puppet William uses for his own gain. Which almost gets her killed literally by her fatherās hand, while Michael is indirectly killed because of his father (the animatronics thought he was William.) At the very least both are asked to do some kind of mission or task by William (Michael told Elizabeth is down in the Sister Location, Vanessa having to keep an eye on Mike and take care of it if he found out too much.) We know that a lot of parallels in fnaf media arenāt uncommon either so I donāt think this is a stretch.
The only real way I could that random ass guy could be Michael Afton, being Michael Afton is if he fulfills Elizabethās role more so. Or more along the lines of game Elizabethās character but heās working? With William I guess? but like.. im gonna be so fr I.. donāt see that working out at all. I really donāt think and really hope that isnāt Michael Afton. š
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Being real I donāt really understand why so many people think Elizabeth is Williamās favorite child if Iām honest. Like am I the one missing something? Isnāt most of her character her trying to get Williamās attention and have him be proud of her. Like literally everytime we see her or hear from her it is her crying out or acting out for his attention. I mean he says he made circus baby for her so maybe thatās why people think that? But thatās a nice gesture why? Knowing the real intention behind the funtimes Iām not sure thatās really something you want made for you. Even if he does tell her to stay away from it I still donāt understand why the fuck he was hyping it up to her WHEN HE DESIGNED IT TO KILL CHILDREN?!? But Idk I always thought it was weird people thought she was the favorite considering her character. Honestly I think C.C could make more sense to be the favorite because although that poor kid was also put through hell. Technically speaking if we believe that the fredbear plush was William talking to him through it and given the monitors we see in SL he probably paid the most attention to C.C. Not good attention of course, none of them ever really got necessarily good attention from William being fr, it all came with strings. And tbf clearly he didnāt do much about his older brother literally tormenting the poor kid. But still clearly he had invested in that kid more than the others I think. Though I guess Michael is also possible? Especially given he is probably the most like William in terms of looks and picked up a lot of traits from him. Maybe thatās why Michael also got away with bullying his siblings so much? But to make a long story short I donāt understand the Elizabeth is Williamās favorite is so popular of a take people have. I think she wants to be his favorite but there isnāt really any indication that she is. In my humble opinion. I feel thereās more evidence for the opposite truthfully.
For the record this could be LITERALLY nothing because itās an animation and probably not super canon. This very may well be my insane ramblings (though when it comes to Gepard or Sampo content Iām afraid thatās the norm). But I was rewatching the HSR two year anniversary trailer which is beautiful by the way I love it so much (and no not just for the belobog fan service .. okay maybe a little bit for the belobog fan service but can you blame me? We barely get crumbs anymore </3) but ANYWAYS I was rewatching it and I noticed that like.. Gepard is in it like A LOT. Heās front and center during the jarilo scene, he gets his own moment in the flashback sequence with flashbacks of Firefly, Robin, Sunday, Blade, and Jingliu. And most interestingly to me is that he also present in the scene with Jingliu, Jingyuan, Blade, Acheron, Sunday, Robin, Welt, and Tingyun (she might be Fuge here but it looks like her tingyun form to me). These are all like pretty lore relevant characters? My first line of thought was āwell they probably just needed some belobog repā but like??? Why on earth would they not choose Bronya? She is way more used by people than Gepard and is way more lore relevant at this time. Or Seele since she was the only Belobog 5 star to run on her own banner and was one of the first units? Then I thought āokay well maybe they wanted characters who arenāt expys and are original to the game specifically?ā But that doesnāt work either as Acheron and Welt are both there (tho welt is not technically an expy heās just welt to my knowledge). Also Gepard is the only standard banner character aside from Welt present which is interesting to note. Phainon is also present in the next scene for a split second with a lot of these characters and not Gepard so I thought āoh maybe itās phainonā but no itās clearly Gepardās outfit. Thatās Gepard. So does this mean anything? Probably not lol. But I do think itās interesting he was paired up with these characters who have had such a focus on them, a lot of which have gotten their own storylines and patches or are like super relevant to the story. Gepard also getting his own flashback frame dedicated to him along with the others is also super interesting. Again I donāt know how canon this animation is or how seriously itās supposed to be taken. But itās something to maybe take note of I think if youāre a Gepard fan. Itās possible whoever animated it just picked Gepard or liked Gepard for the sake of liking Gepard. This could be absolutely nothing but I do think it isnāt completely impossible to consider maybe itās a hint to the fact he might get more lore relevancy in the future. Again probably not an indicator of that itās just an anniversary animation Iām sure we will get more Gepard content when we go back to belobog regardless but to how much focus on his character there will be? I donāt know. I personally would love more Gepard character development but ehhh I donāt know if Iām gonna be holding my breath. Either way I thought it was interesting and since there hasnāt been any new content with him in so long I thought Iād share.
You can see Gepard to the side of Jingliu and in the second one next to Blade. (SS taken from the 2nd Anniversary HSR animation which you can find on the HSR youtube channel)
It may be 2am my time but I have some sketches of baby Adam with his different various father-like figures (minus toonie I just wanted to draw him holding baby Adam bc it was silly)
Okay but has anyone considered the possibility of Sampoās mask working similarly to how Ice King/Simon from Adventure Timeās crown works. And maybe thatās why he threw it away? I think that could be an interesting way approach to that situation.
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okay so Iāve seen a few questions about SOTM and how it effects previously established lore and I kinda wanna give my two cents on and try to clarify maybe theorize a little.
āSo William and Henry didnāt make the original designs anymore?ā
No. They did. At least the ones we know. Itās kind of complicated. Firstly, Fazbear Entertainment and by extension Fredbearās Family Diner was already an established business when they collaborated with Edwin. So by that logic Fredbear and most likely Springbonnie probably already existed. The prototypes we see of them in the R&D section were supposed to be for the new establishment as this was pre-bite. Both would go on to be reworked/rebranded into new characters being Freddy and Bonnie. Chica and Foxy is where it starts to get a little more muddy. Chica was obviously designed by Fiona, at least her Chicaās party world version. But I think itās also important to remember that for all of these the Murrays were contracted to make them. Meaning I imagine they were given some kind of description of what they were looking for, hence Chica at first being referred to as the design for the hen animatronic. I imagine that at least the basic idea of there being a chicken animatronic was commissioned by them. With Foxy itās kind of unclear, we see the puppet version of Foxy and we know Fiona made puppets. We even see she made a pirate wolf/fox of some kind for David. So I see it either being, Foxy was Fionaās original character but he was put for lease or sale and bought by Fazbearent. OR Foxy specifically and the Foxy pirate stage show we see was made for or in collaboration with FazbearEnt. But regardless of if William and Henry made the original designs or ideas or not they had final say on the versions we know today. They ended up not using Fionaās designs for the first Freddy Fazbearās location, which are described as ācreepyā by Edwin. Seeing as these animatronics go on to match the style of animatronics we know were designed by William and Henry I think itās safe to say they had a hand in making the final versions we know from the other games. So yes I do still think the majority of the original gang that we know can still be attributed to Afton and Emily.
āSo does this mean that Afton and Henry didnāt make the springlocks?ā
As I said before I donāt think so. Fredbearās was already an established brand. We know that location specifically used Springlocks. I think itās more likely Henry and William came up with the idea, maybe had some kind of prototype, and worked with Edwin to improve upon the idea or use the technology for new suits that were planned to be at the next location. So it was more likely that all three (or at least Henry and Edwin) worked on the Springlock technology.
āOkay so then what was William Afton after in stealing from Edwin? If he didnāt want the characters or the springlocks what did he want?ā
Well, Iām glad you asked. First of all, I believe William was after employees. He was poaching employees from Edwin, we see this implied a couple times throughout. Most likely because he was working on creating Afton robotics at the time and wanted workers for himself. Especially given that Edwinās business was on a downward spiral and wouldnāt have lasted very long. Secondly, although itās still debatable if Fazbear entertainment even was sending groups to the factory or if it was the mimic luring employees there the whole time. We know Arnold most likely was tricked and lured there by the mimic. But I think the way Edwin speaks about trying to keep things from them and being betrayed and the fact he puts all his plans so only he can access them does imply William was after something. That something? I believe was not the characters (although FazEnt would end up taking the majority of those too. Although I think that was through a buyout as most of them were for sale or lease and Edwin needed money) but I think he wanted the technology. Think about it. Thereās so much stuff we see in Edwinās factory that seems like it couldāve been used in a lot of the sister locationās technology specifically. 1. Thereās the scooper. Thereās just.. straight up the scooper. Right there. Edwin made the scooper. I donāt think thereās any debating that. 2. This one might be a bit of a stretch but I canāt help but feel the Tiger sections the mimic acts strikingly similar to how we see Funtime Foxy and Funtime Freddy function. Itās very reminiscent of the way Funtime Foxy reacts to light in the Funtime auditorium section. 3. The most important reason I believe is because of the mimicās ability to copy voices. Which we see is an ability in some of the Funtime animatronics as well. I mean Funtime Freddy literally has the ability to mimic voices. They outright call it mimicry. Funtime Foxy also has an ability to āParental voice sync and Replayā which to me sounds like itās talking about a form of mimicking as well.
To give the TLTR version:
-Original Gang most likely still was William and Henryās idea at least what animals they should be but they commissioned Fiona for the designs and never ended up using her designs (except for Chica during the Chicaās Party World Era but the Murrayās owned that). Switching to their own designs last minute.
-Springlocks still most likely were invented by Henry and/or William as Fredbearās existed before Edwinās partnership with them. The prototypes we see of Fredbear and SpringBonnie were supposed to be for the new location but most likely never got used because of the incident in 83.
-William Afton was still stealing ideas from Edwin even if it wasnāt the animatronics. I believe he was more so after the technology which can be reflected in his later inventions like the Funtime animatronics. He also was most likely poaching employees from Edwinās dying business to work at Afton Robotics.
I hope this could help clear up or anything about it! I know this is a bit of a yapping fest but I hope it made some sense of things!
I think about the way Edgeworth describes ants in aai1 a lot ngl. I was talking to my partner about it like Itās such a small moment, but aside from the kind of miserable dialogue that follows it, idk I think itās silly how he describes them. Itās a really short and sweet answer but I like the admiration he holds for them. I wouldnāt really expect him to. Iām sure thereās some kind of deeper analysis I could make about it and connect it to his character if I wanted to. But tbh I kinda just wanna appreciate it because itās silly and whimsical to me right now.
(Also sorry for having to use the online transcript and not actual SS I thought I took a picture of this moment but I guess I didnāt? Iām too lazy to get my switch rn and look through all my aa photos š but I promise itās in there)