the spirit speech was absolutely my turning point for c!dream. up until i rewatched that moment, i had basically been on the other side for lack of a better word but honestly hearing that break really got to me. there's no denying the horrible things dream has done but it was genuinely painful hearing him say those things because of what it meant for him, how willing he was to hurt himself in the process. that's not a place you get to if every thought and action is calculated. - simplepotatofarmer
right??? especially since the Spirit leather threat worked! it worked in the beginning! c!Dream started tearing the walls down! only then, when c!Tommy and the rest started flexing the fact that now THEY have something on HIM that they can use to control him, and no, Tubbo, it doesn't have to be peaceful anymore- only then did he snap.
c!Dream honey you can't honestly think I'll listen to you screaming about how you don't care about Spirit when you were tearing down the walls five seconds ago because they threatened to burn him. at the end of the day you're a terrible liar, but hey guess what, caring about things and feeling human emotions will do that to you. annoying, I know.
what baffles me is that so many people believed him - not even characters, but the viewers.