#scilesbreakup

So... I ended up down a rabbit hole of really old comments and arguments over on Archive of our Own yesterday over the Sciles breakup in season 5A. Basically, someone posted a story back when it first aired that was three sentences (stiles apologising to Scott and Scott saying ok) and then detailed in the author’s note how Stiles was completely in the wrong in this situation and Scott has nothing to apologise for. Wow, the comment section was INSANE!!! like people just went off on one another over this and who was right and who was wrong - some were in full agreement with the author, some absolutely on the other side and then those in the middle who thought both boys were in the wrong in different ways. 

So, of course, I spent the rest of the day and night thinking about this and what my opinion is. Here it is, for anyone who might care!

More than one of the comments (from the og author and others) were about how the whole series of events leading up to the fight were ooc, like Stiles covering up a murder (I disagree with this because a - not a murder and b - he didn’t cover it up per se, he left yes, but he called the police, Parrish just happened to get to the body first and Stiles didn’t know this so for all he knew Donovan could have survived and left) and not telling Scott, and that Stiles never actually corrects Scott or tells him exactly what happened (apparently him saying ‘I had no choice’ to Scott isn’t him claiming self-defence which I mean, obviously in court he’d need to say the words but in this context it kinda is) so of course Scott just goes with Theo’s version of events (which honestly doesn’t make sense to me, like Scott would just automatically believe Theo that Stiles was capable of cold blooded murder??).

Anyway!! I was thinking about the whole it was ooc for Stiles and they didn’t like the writing for S5 and a lot of stuff didn’t make sense. And that got me thinking about a lot of things in that season that were ooc, or more I guess like extreme versions of their characters? Like Scott trusting Theo so easily and thinking the worst in Stiles - and then I was thinking about their talk a couple episodes later when they go to get Kira and they say they wish they had stayed 5 more minutes and one of them says that Theo didn’t want them to. So... after ALL that... here’s my theory, for what it’s worth....

So, we all know that the Dread Doctor’s got to Kira right, and messed with her and triggered the darker side of her fox? But what if they got to ALL of them and messed with their minds? We know they can change people’s memories, make people forget them - hell, Valack wrote a book to try and remember them then apparently went off the rails, drilled a hole in his own head and got locked up at Eichen House. 

Think about it - Stiles knows what he did was self-defence, even if he wanted Donovan dead in that moment. He had a massive bite mark from being attacked and Donovan had made threats against his dad in public so logically he should have known people would believe him, even with his normal overthinking and anxiety. And then when Theo ‘saves him’ from Josh he agrees to cover that up and go along with Theo when he’s spent all season so far not trusting him? 

Scott’s asthmas starts up again and NO ONE thinks its weird! Scott knows his asthma disappeared when he got bitten, and that werewolves can’t get sick etc (it also cured Erica’s epilepsy) but then something triggers and attack, Theo is right there with an inhaler and suddenly he’s relying on it all the time. We know the inhaler had wolfsbane, but something triggered the original need for it. And for some reason, no one ever questioned why he suddenly needed the inhaler again which is not right. Scott never questions it, his mum, Lydia, no one!

Malia hiding everything about looking for her mum from everyone? I mean, she’s never normally shy about her willingness to hurt others if she needs to, or her survival instincts. So it does also surprise me that she would go to such lengths to hide the fact she’s still looking for her birth mother from everyone, even Stiles who never looked at her like a monster. Obviously she might have thought they’d try to stop her, but it’s weird for her to have got so secretive all of a sudden and also her sudden trust of Theo, she’s not a very trusting sort.

Even Liam - I know they blamed the supermoon on his rage induced attack on Scott, but even with that I think it was a little out of the blue for him to turn on Scott so suddenly but again, if the Dread Doctor’s were messing with him that would explain why he was so much more susceptible to the supermoon and then Theo there making suggestions about saving Hayden even when she was clearly too far gone. 

Then there’s Theo - no one questions how he always manages to find the right answer (except Stiles) like the book. How he just happened to turn up at the same time as the Doctors. Like everyone else, after some initial hesitation, just accepts him and the information he brings them. but then also, I wonder - it’s implied that he was always evil (he helped kill his sister to get her heart) but was he actually born a sociopath? Or was that the Dread Doctor’s too? If his sister was the only one who loved him growing up, and the only one he loved, he would have been open to manipulation. Also this could explain why when he comes back in season 6 he’s eventually more caring and is even eventually able to take someone’s pain - they credit his time in ‘hell’ and his sister’s spirit but what if it was also just finally being away from the dread doctors after so long?

Anyway, many of you may disagree with me, but there’s my long-winded theory of why season 5 was so messed up and ultimately why our amazing Sciles had that horrible breakup scene and why it was so heartbreaking.