(look I know Ben is currently more fitting and that the phantom effect is stressful and negative but give me a moment)
The reason why I see it getting closer to be Aiden as wrath than Ben is my understanding of their process of healing;
Ben’s healing is heading him towards inner peace, away from rage, but Aiden’s healing is heading him toward facing and showing (intentionally or unintentionally) genuine human emotions, away from faking and hiding, and the strongest form of human emotion, the hardest to hide, is anger.
[this adds to the cousins being two faces of the same coin conversation iykyk]
+The wrath/ anger is connected to other human feelings, there’s never anger by itself, there’s always another emotion behind: pain, sadness, hatred or fear etc,
And when the chaos settles, those feelings are what remains.
And for a person who has been faking emotions (sticking with fake happiness) and denying anything else for a long time, seeing him getting forced into acceptance of human emotions and nature will add up to him as a character, especially how with the current phantoming situation seems to try to push them away from their humanity.
Aiden had some true feelings slipping out of the perfect face he had created, we saw glimpse of real happiness, concern, actual fear, disgust, anger and of course, love.
He’s already drifting away from the mask, even if it’s just small bits that he doesn’t realise yet, but I can’t wait for the small gravel to turn heavy and the mask to fully break down.
u see my vision ? :^
[the pictures are just to give idea and not the situation (his reaction was valid)]
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Before I get into the analysis I wanted to state a few things/give an introduction to the post. Firstly, since we only have so much of Aiden's backstory and character, a lot of this is me taking implications and sharing my interpretation of it.
Since SBG is still ongoing I'll likely come back and edit this post every so often once season 3 comes out and as his character progresses. I'll obviously edit this when we get his backstory as currently all we have is theories/implications.
In the past I've incorporated relationships in these analyses but I intend on doing these entirely separately (however you can find links to these posts at the bottom of this post or on my masterlist and ill add them as I write them)
Things I found important to note
Aiden's ADHD (canon - Red)
Aiden being suicidal (canon - story)
Aiden's attachment issues (canon - Red)
Aiden's implied depression
Aiden's implied neglect
Aiden's lack of social skills & boundaries
Aiden's self hatred
canon - story = confirmed through the comic
canon - Red = confirmed by Red on insta
anything implied is my interpretation of things Red has stated and/or things hinted through the comic
Aiden & Psychopathy
Feel free to skip this portion but I really want to talk about this because this interpretation of Aiden's character always really annoyed me. Especially since it couldn't be farther from the truth.
I know most people probably aren't serious with these claims but I have seen people say that they truly believe he's a sociopath (also ASPD). Most of the time it's based in sterotypes which are not only incorrect, but are harmful.
The biggest reason people may mix these up is because Aiden has ADHD (& likely depression) two diagnoses that share signs.
Reckless disregard for the safety of others or themselves
^ this isnt me claiming all people with aspd are inherently evil
Signs of ADHD:
Difficulty focusing
Restlessness
Talking a lot/Rambling
Impulsivety
Signs of Depression:
irritability
feelings of sadness, emptiness, or hopelessness
insomnia
tiredness/lack of energy
changing appetite
restlessness
feelings of worthlessness or guilt
trouble concentrating
reoccurring thoughts of death & suicide
Now let's delve into it briefly.
The ONLY signs of ASPD Aiden actually has are impulsivity and reckless disregard for the safety of himself (and occasionally others). However, those can be chalked up to his other diagnoses.
Impulsiveness -> His ADHD, I don't feel like I need to delve into that, it's self explanatory.
Reckless endangerment -> Aiden simply doesn't care about his wellbeing, he doesn't care what happens to him because he doesn't care if he lives or dies. These instances can often occur in those with depression.
It's basically the idea of "Oh, I'm not planning on killing myself, but if I did die I'd be okay with it."
I say "(and occasionally others)" while thinking of the scene where he's going to pull Tyler to the edge of the bridge. In no way would Aiden choose to go out of his way to intentionally hurt Tyler but in that moment he was making an impulsive decision (to which he thought about it and realized he didn't want to hurt him).
And that's my biggest indicator that Aiden isn't a psychopath, he FEELS remorse, he blames himself for getting Ashlyn hurt. He feels guilt, he's able to feel guilt. He also very obviously feels concern for people.
I've seen people say he struggles with empathy but in my mind it's most likely he'd just be the type to use cognitive empathy rather than emotional empathy.
Even so, you can also chalk that up to his lack of knowledge on social situations, which is due to him being mostly isolated his whole life.
Anyway there's my little rant now onto the ACTUAL analysis.
Diving into Aiden's Psychology & Neglect
Due to the nature of his parents' work, Aiden hopped from place to place his whole life. He never stayed anywhere for long, not bothering to so much as remember the city names since he knew he wouldn't be there long enough for it to matter.
A multitude of studies say that children who move around a lot become more likely to develop depression later in life. They also are more likely to have difficulty with social situations.
(Theory ->) From the looks of one of his childhood rooms, Aiden would be left alone for long periods of time. Instant ramen, empty soda cans, and water bottles were scattered around his room. In that same panel, you can see a huge box full of ramen cups on the shelf, paired with two other boxes of the same size.
The way I see it, his parents were likely fully focused on their careers rather than their son so they often left him to fend for himself. When asked if his parents would notice a package being delivered, Aiden mentions that they wouldn't be home for months. The way he says it casually without any indication that it's out of the ordinary, (in my mind) only further proves my stance that they've left him alone before.
I've seen a lot of people theorize that they could be abusive but the way I see it they likely prioritized their work and ended up neglecting him. I feel that this is where his attachment issues developed, as more often than not, it stems from scenarios where a child's relationship with their parent isn't how it should be (in this case neglect).
Daniel mentioned Aiden was super quiet as a kid. Maybe he got to a point where he stopped trying to seek their attention and just retracted into himself and his depression. Maybe it was the isolation due to the neglect & lack of stability. There's a lot that's left unanswered at the moment.
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I don't know enough about attachment issues to go insanely in depth about this but Red once said on Insta that Aiden's attached to Ashlyn (at the time of publication she wasn't sure if it was romantic or not, she has yet to say otherwise), and this is obvious, you can see it in their dynamic.
Aiden moved to Alto with the goal of finding a real friend (I'm gonna delve into this a bit later). Here he met Ashlyn, whom he characterized as someone who wouldn't get close to others unless they actually meant something to her. I've always taken this as him not just looking for someone he could form a bond with, but hoping to find someone who he would matter to. Wanting to be cared about in a way he had never been before.
Another sign of attachment issues is difficulties with boundaries, but I feel like I can tie this heavily into his isolation, ADHD, & lack of social skills.
Aiden mentioned two things I think are worth noting for this point. First, that due to moving around a lot he just casually talked to people passing by, no one who cared about him and no one he knew long enough to care about. Second, he was still getting used to the whole boundaries concept.
The biggest thing I feel like I should reiterate (but probably don't need to) is that Aiden didn't push into Ashlyn's bubble with any ill intentions, he was doing it because he wasn't mentally able to notice and pick up on the cues that she wanted space. Not being able to pick up on social cues is also a huge sign of being neurodivergent.
In general, I think this issue could also be heavily due to being isolated and not having anyone to teach him what to do and what not to do. It wasn't a prevalent issue for him because he didn't have anyone around him whom he needed to worry about.
This is also one of his biggest developmental points. As mentioned above he tells Ashlyn that he still doesn't fully understand the whole concept of boundaries, however, him pulling back and worrying about being too close, shows that he's actively trying to work on it. He cares about the people around him and doesn't want to be the reason they're uncomfortable.
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Shifting away from his attachment issues I want to discuss his implied depression and canon suicidal tendencies/ideation.
While I could delve into why specifically I believe Aiden's non-confirmed diagnosis is depression, I want to talk about his suicidal thoughts & tendencies first then more into the signs of depression I see in Aiden.
Starting with his "So that's what it feels like." comment. While I've seen many people interpret it in many different ways, the way I always saw it was Aiden referring to him dying.
I don't think it's a coincidence that we got THAT specific panel where little Aiden is lying alone in bed. In my mind, he was thinking directly back to a moment in his life where he was actively thinking about dying.
Suicidal ideation doesn't always mean "I'm gonna kill myself". It could be someone hoping that they go to sleep and don't wake up in the morning, or thinking about walking into oncoming traffic so they could get hit and die that way. It probably could include "I'm going to jump off this 13-foot wall and hope that the fall is far enough to kill me."
You see where I'm going with this?
Now we also have this major dialogue point from Aiden's conversation with Tyler:
Tyler -> "You didn't care about dying at all did you? Even from the beginning you-"
Aiden -> "[...] but I didn't want to actually die."
Aiden's phantom "conscious" -> "LIAR."
Followed by Aiden immediately brushing it off and getting out of the situation before Tyler can continue pressing him on the topic.
While Tyler took weeks to recover, Aiden only took a couple of days, because dying didn't affect him. He wasn't negatively impacted by it because he had finally gotten what he wanted. He did what he had always done, brushed it off, and acted like it was fine.
There's a recurring theme with Aiden where whenever he's vulnerable about something or stuck in a situation where he feels cornered he'll do what he can to push it aside and act like he's unaffected. For example his conversation with Ashlyn in front of the family photo, him hiding his injury on the run for the jeep, and him right after he died.
This isn't to say he's never been vulnerable in front of them. Take the time Ashlyn got hurt during the jeep run, or his apology after that (even though he was still keeping up a facade). The biggest time was when Tyler died, even if he kept a smile after they got him down, he was still terrified. He was also openly scared in the hospital waiting room.
The common action even in these situations is to revert to his act whenever he can. He tries his best to hide how he feels, and there could be a plethora of reasons for this but again reminder, I'm making this with crumbs of his backstory.
^ I go into this a bit more farther down.
Turning away from the suicide aspect I wanted to highlight acouple smaller things I’ve noticed throughout the story that could help further my idea that the backstory spoiler diagnosis could be depression.
Changing appetite -> I’ve noticed through the story (specifically season one) there’s various instances where Aiden just doesn't eat at all during lunch, instead opting to play with the food.
Insomnia -> I feel like this one is self-explanatory but while his eye bags could be—and probably are—a huge indicator that he doesn't sleep as well as he should. There’s also the fact that in most sleeping/night panels he’s almost always awake during them. With the exception of the cuddle pile in season two.
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Circling back to the jeep run, let's talk about Aiden's guilt, because no one really talks about it despite it being a huge part of his character (in my opinion).
We’re all aware of what occurred, his actions got himself injured, leading to Ashlyn being grabbed by the phantom. While no one held it against him, we know that he internalized that guilt. When pulling Tyler to the edge he remembers that moment in particular, thinking back to a time he got his friend hurt. He still feels immense guilty about that.
This was also the big event that began the turning point for all the characters, so it's understandable that whatever he was feeling in this moment would be something that stuck with him.
It's clear in the way he kept apologizing—both on the roof and in the school—that it’s an event that Aiden feels deep remorse and guilt over. In general Aiden likely struggles with self-worth which would, in turn, fuel the flame.
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Another thing I've noticed is Aiden's lack of trust/vulnerability, which can be a product of his neglect, self-hatred, and depression.
At this point in the series, Aiden remains the only teen who has yet to let the others in. I think a lot of things can factor into this. You could say that his neglect led him to feel as if he's better off not telling people what's wrong and/or internalizing it. It could have something to do with his lack of trust, maybe he feels as if he can't trust his friends with this because his trust was broken before.
While those are mostly speculation my main thought is that it likely just has to do with the fact that there are a ton of people with depression who simply hide it or don't want to let others see this side of them. There could be a multitude of reasons for this. Maybe he's using his humour mask as a way to try and combat the feeling or maybe he just doesn't want to burden others. Maybe he feels like he's not worth the help and would rather try to make others feel better.
There's also a huge likelihood that he doesn't want to show he's depressed because he either doesn't want to be defined by it or doesn't want it to be a part of his image, and that's the one I want to try and lean towards since I feel like Aiden's self-hatred could play a huge role in his character when you think about it.
I know a lot of this stuff is speculation or I'm not giving straight answers but that's since we truly don't have any. We've been inside Aiden's head twice and only one of those times had dialogue. We actually have no real idea as to why he thinks and works the way he does or what exact things occurred to make him this way. A lot of this was just me trying to shed light on all the things that COULD be occurring in his head.
I'm also in no way a professional (obviously) and I don't deal with really any of these so I couldn't write this analysis the way someone with these disorders or struggles could. A lot of what I'm saying is surface-level information I've researched about the topics at hand. If anyone has further insight into these topics please do feel free to educate me further so I can learn more and can improve on this analysis as the comic progresses.
Aiden's Self Hatred & The Mask
This is getting its own section solely because I'm tying in a whole separate theory/analysis to this at the end. I wasn't sure if I should've included this in the psychology section or the development section so I decided to give it its own part so I could really go into why I think it could be a big part of his character.
I’ll start with the biggest example of this, which is his reaction to the picture of himself as a kid.
“I don't like that picture.”
I didn't take that as him saying that the picture is bad, instead, I feel like it's his way of saying “I don't like the me in that photo.” The depressed, alone, and dark parts of him. The part of him he desperately tries to hide from everyone around him. He crafted a whole mask to hide that part of him. Going to great lengths to put a gap between that aide of him and the side of him he presents himself as. Bleaching his hair and putting in red contacts, making physical changes to bridge a gap between his mask and himself.
In the bathroom scene he dropped the mask completely, while it was definitely due to being alone and not having the others around him (before Tyler walked in), I think the symbolism behind it is interesting. It's in that specific moment we see his roots growing back in, we see him take out his contacts. We’re seeing the parts of Aiden he’s trying to hide seep into his persona.
I think that in the next season, we’re going to get more of this, we’ll hopefully get to see him more vulnerable and open with Tyler or one of the others. I don't think this is a far-off assumption as we have literally been watching his mental decline throughout the entire series.
Season One -> During the start of the series Aiden’s mask is strong, rarely dropping it at all. There were only two instances of this (that I can make note of).
The first being the first day of school. After trying to start up a conversation with Ashlyn—and it being cut short—we see him frown in his seat. No one actually talks about this and most people forgot it happened entirely but it was the first time we see him drop the mask when no one is looking.
I already discussed the second, that being the time when he got Ashlyn hurt. He was scared, he felt responsible, and was probably incredibly stressed out. It's of note that the moments we see Aiden completely vulnerable around the others are when someone he cares about is hurt.
Season Two -> The kids just kept enduring event after event, so it's no wonder that the stress and trauma began to build up and seep out.
Aiden is in a vulnerable state in the hospital and when they find Tyler on the tree (as explained above). Then he ends up dying that same night, even if he puts his mask back on right after, we see him vulnerable and unfazed by dying. Later in the season we see the moment I discussed above where him and Tyler talk and we see Aiden growing even more exhausted than he would previously show.
I don't think it's a long shot to assume we might see him spiral next season or watch his mental state continue to plummet and crack the mask he wears.
My Phantom/Consciousness Theory
Once again this is a THEORY but it directly ties into Aiden's self hatred so I felt like discussing it.
You know the phantom versions Aiden and Tyler see trying to kill them? I think they could be an extension or personification of their consciousness. Take Tyler's for example, his phantom has his guts hanging out, showing that his death still haunts him.
But Aiden's phantom has no head injury, instead it looks exactly like how Aiden would if he didn't make those physical changes. Also think about the way that we got "Liar." from THE PHANTOM. In that same panel the phantom has it's fingers on his face, it's literally forcing Aiden to smile.
Now think of it like this, Aiden is quite literally dreaming of the parts of himself that he hates/tries to keep hidden trying to kill him. He's fully in a battle with his own consciousness.
I intend on doing a whole analysis/theory post on this separately but I wanted to leave this here.
Aiden's Personality
Caring & Compassionate -> There are SO many instances where Aiden’s concerned for another’s well-being or where he tries to comfort someone however he knows. Which is why I hate when people talk about Aiden and act like he’s someone who is obsessed with Ashlyn and doesn't care for the others when he’s an incredibly caring person.
Like yes, he was worried for her when she got hurt, yes he tried to comfort and reassure her in the hospital, but he also attacked Alex without hesitation because he knew something happened to ONE OF his friends. Or the cuddle pile in s2 where he puts his hand on Tyler’s waist, probably in an effort to be there for him. The really irritating thing about these scenes is that everyone constantly waters them down to Aidelyn scenes, therefore, watering down his entire character.
Adventurous -> Self-explanatory, he’s always searching for something to do (mostly for the adrenaline) but regardless. I’d also say all his interests make me think of a very adventurous person.
Loyalty & Protectiveness -> Like the example I said above, Aiden is EXTREMELY loyal to those he loves. Once again, he strangled Alex for his FRIENDS. He would genuinely go extremely far for them and would stand by their side through anything life (Red) throws at them.
Selfless -> While this definitely has something to do with his lack of self-care, he constantly puts the safety and well-being of others above himself. He didn't care when something happened to him but the moment it happened to someone else he was there.
Adaptable -> I don’t think we talk about just how quick Aiden adapted to the phantom dimension. The very first night he grabbed one of the first things he could (a cleaning spray) and used it against a phantom. The night the phantom entered the bus (for the second time) he was able to create a plan to help get Ashlyn out from under the seats, grab ahold of the phantom, and stick it through the window. He adapts extremely quick to the dangerous situations around him and I don't think people discuss just how intelligent he really is.
I think people forget that his immaturity doesn't equal his intelligence since it’s a major part of his “sunshine boy” mask. Aiden is THE funny friend, but underneath that he seems fairly intelligent.
Blunt -> Aiden has made fairly blunt comments but it’s not out of malice, nor is it near the level that Tyler does it. A lot of neurodivergent people struggle with knowing what’s acceptable to say in certain situations due to not always being able to pick up on the social cues. Also can be brought back to his lack of social knowledge as a whole.
Impulsive -> I’m not going into this for a fourth time, refer to everything above.
Self Destructive -> Same as above.
“Fearless, Funny, Immature.” -> I put these in quotes because to me, they encompass the personality he crafted into his mask. Although I think it's less that he’s fearless and more that he doesn't care.
Like I said above Aiden hides behind the common funny friend persona, he hides his feelings and sense of self behind humour.
Now immaturity is an interesting one, because while he says and does stupid shit I think it's mostly to further his act. We’ve seen him make smart choices and being serious when it’s truly needed. It’s not that he can’t be serious, it’s probably that since his life is so miserable as it is, he’s trying to compensate with unseriousness. Trying to bring light into dark places even if his mind is filled with that same darkness.
Aiden's Development & Plot
I won’t lie I’m not exactly sure how I’m supposed to go about wording this section but we're going to go with the flow and hope it turns out decent.
-> Aiden starts the series as a kid who's pushy and has no concept of personal space. Throughout the series, we see (and he directly says) that it's something he's trying to work on. The concept of boundaries and personal space wasn't something he was familiar with, but despite that, he wanted to work on it, he wanted to be better. Becoming someone Ashlyn and the others could be comfortable around.
-> While his impulses will always be something he’ll struggle with, it’s another thing he’s working on. Before the group & Ben, he didn't have to be cautious of how his actions would have direct impact on the people around him because there weren't people around him to be impacted. During season two we see that he’s learnt how to pause and think things through before following through with the action. It might’ve taken a moment for him to pause but it's a start.
-> Emotionally it’s a little hard to pinpoint the exact course of his mental state but we see that as time progresses his mask begins slipping. I imagine this is mostly due to the stress and trauma mixing with his already horrible mental state, and considering stress directly impacts depression. I don’t think it's crazy to assume the reason his mask keeps slipping is due to the fact he’s growing too exhausted to keep it up when the situation is evoking such harsh emotions in him. It’s also possible that he’s grown close enough to the others that he’s growing comfortable and feels safe enough to know that they won't give him shit for it. Although, there's the fact that he still brushes it off whenever he can, showing that while he might feel safe with them, he still doesn't want to open up.
There’s definitely way more development but I feel like I highlighted some of the major aspects of his character throughout the whole thing and I lwk don’t feel like writing more because this is already so incredibly long.
-> thank you for reading!!
This took like two days to write & you can go watch my edit on tiktok that goes with this if you'd like (same user as here)
I've made analyses before but they were a lot more simple than this one which is why I chose to redo them.
I want to delve into the psychology of the characters more because it's the biggest thing that interests me.
Once again if you have any insight into the psychology and disorders feel free to share it and educate me farther.
Similarly, please do let me know your thoughts on this and your own opinions. I'd love to hear people's ideas about what we might expect from Aiden's backstory since half of this is assumptions/my personal interpretation of what we have so far.
If you finished reading this thank you for reading, I’m doing Tyler’s next because my lovely tiktok moot said they couldn't wait for tyler’s and i’m a people pleaser so
Do you think the reason Ben believed his voice was done for good because when he tried to go back to singing he had already entered the voice changing phase of growing ( alot of boys get their voices cracky at that time ) and because his parents weren't that helpful nobody actually explained to little him that it's normal?
To remind you, vocal cords take at max 6 weeks with unwoundy damage to heal, and around 2 months if it's surgical ( you can check my old research with cath :I )
+ vocal cords are like muscles and require constant use to remain good, not talking at all probably only got his condition worse ( but it can still heal back if he trains them again)
Also singing isn't just about the person's voice itself but also the skill and control of that voice, and to know how much of a singer Ben was, there's no way he forgot all that stuff .
I know how bad what happened, but to think about it maybe it got harder for him because he himself lacked acceptance? or maybe because his parents were DAMN FAILURES?
I still believe he would sound magnificent if he try..
please make an analysis or something on why tyden (romantic and/or platonic) isnt toxic 🙏 my friend still thinks they are and it pisses me off 😭
Tyler & Aiden Friendship Analysis
While I of course could just make a post about why they aren't actually toxic as a duo I figured the easiest way to do that would just be to analyze their actual canon relationship so hopefully your friend can see the canon dynamic rather than the mischaracterized fanon one people seem to love pushing.
It would be way easier for me to do this if I had finished redoing Tyler's character analysis so I could reference that especially since I want to assume part of the reason your friend believes this is because they don't understand the characters in general.
Nonetheless, I wanted to make friendship analyses sooner anyway so here's the first one, do lmk who you'd all like to see after I write Tyler's analysis.
The way I intend on writing this goes as followed:
my thoughts/notes
a short summary of Tyler & Aiden's personalities separately
their canon development
The reason I include their personalities is because the way I see it, to be able to understand their duo you have to be able to understand them and where they stood at the beginning of the series vs the end (s2).
My Thoughts & Notes
I don't necessarily intend on writing these sections in each relationship analysis, but since it's based off an ask I have a few thoughts I want to share, along with some things from Red's story that I want to be able to reference.
Like I said above I can only assume the reason your friend believes they're toxic is due to a couple potential reasons. Either they don't understand the boy's characters and are one of the fans who act like Tyler hates everyone & Aiden only cares about Ashlyn. Or they don't think the boys are friends, neither of these statements are true.
Even without diving into the context of the comic we have this story from Red's insta talking about how the two of them (and everyone else) have become friends and how their "fights" have shifted into friendly bickering.
So even now, without actually writing anything, you can argue that they don't hate or dislike each other, since canonically they're friends.
Tyler Hernandez Personality
I figured I'd start with Tyler's, these won't be long since I (will) have separate analyses for each character.
I think the biggest misconception about Tyler's character is that he was harsh and unwelcoming because he hated the teens, when in reality, he simply believed he didn't have time for them. It's stated directly in the comic that Tyler saw friends as a distraction he didn't have time for. In fact, we've seen him push away anything he deems a waste of time (e.g., brushing off what occurred at the Sorrel Weed House).
Tyler in general is a very brash character who says what's on his mind and tends to avoid sugarcoating, but that doesn't mean he's heartless and hates them. Unlike how fans perceive him, Tyler's shown to care a lot about the people he loves, he's also fairly emotionally intelligent.
This is again stated in the comic but overtime he began to let others in. He began to enjoy their company, they went from distractions he couldn't give a damn about to people he loved and saw as family.
All in all, is Tyler harsh? Yes. Does he do it with the intent to cause unnecessary hurt to others for his personal gain? No. From where we're at in the story, he cares deeply about them and doesn't hesitate to put their safety over his own. (Ex. Him suggesting to Ashlyn (numerous times) that they should leave him behind [on the tree]).
To continuously say that Tyler doesn't care for anyone directly goes against words straight from the comic, I sincerely suggest that anyone who disagrees with my statement go and reread Season Two's preview considering the whole chapter fully explains Tyler's character.
Aiden Clark Personality
Since I already have an Aiden Analysis, feel free to go view it if you're interested in reading more of what I have to say about Aiden's character as a whole.
In the simplest way, there's basically two sides to Aiden; the side he doesn't want shown and the parts of himself he merges together to create a mask.
Despite how fans want to perceive him, Aiden cares a lot about the safety of everyone, after all, it's one of the few times we ever see him struggle/stop trying to keep up his act.
While his back and forth with Tyler started as fights and them poking jabs at each other due to mutual dislike, they eventually grew into friendly bickering.
Tyler & Aiden's Development
I'm breaking this up into sections (like how I've done my relationship charts if you've seen that tiktok).
Early Season 1 -> Ep. 1 to Ep. 24 (The Start)
Didn't get along at all
Aiden specifically states during the savanna trip that he doesn't care much for Tyler
It's at this point that Tyler majorly has no interest in making friends since (again) he has bigger priorities than that
Tyler also isn't one to dwell on things he thinks is bullshit (ex. him dismissing what occurred in the sorrel weed house), unlike Aiden who is super into thrills and seemingly paranormal stuff.
Aiden vaguely references this after Tyler says Ashlyn should've said something at the sorrel weed house, to which Aiden replies "Even if she had said anything, would you have believed her? With your personality I seriously doubt it." Tyler isn't one to be a skeptic, he's fairly straightforward whereas Aiden directly combats this with his lack of seriousness.
Most of their interactions here consist of Aiden saying/doing something and Tyler being annoyed at what he does/says. The only time it's really the other way around was the moment above in the cafeteria.
Mid Season 1 -> Ep. 25 to Ep. 43 (Jeep Run)
The jeep run is the turning point for both Tyler and Aiden (Ashlyn too but this isn't about her atm).
Even now their back and forth comments feel as if they're less fuelled by dislike and beginning to merge into friendly bickering. Of course it's not entirely like that but you can vaguely see the shift.
Now the biggest indicator in the jeep run is when Aiden yells out Ashlyn's name and Tyler goes down to check it out. While yes it's partially his way of protecting Taylor (who wanted to go herself) I do think part of him was also concerned since he could've easily ignored it but that's just not who he is as a person.
Something I didn't pick up on until rereading for this analysis is that Tyler didn't actually know why Aiden was trying to get onto the roof until AFTER he began helping him up. Even if he didn't know what Aiden's goal or motivations were, he was still willing to help him.
Is it a big moment? No, but it's the start of their development as friends and as individual characters. Tyler—who tends to brush off things that he deems a waste of time—willingly aids Aiden despite not being aware of what had occurred.
End of Season One/Start of Season 2 -> Ep. 44 to Ep. 61 (The Deaths)
After the jeep run is when Tyler begins to get along better with everyone (such as: him teaching Ben to play guitar, him supporting Logan, Ashlyn herself saying he's becoming nicer) it's only natural for him and Aiden to be on better terms now too.
"And while things were rough in the beginning, he eventually started to have fun with the others. Maybe even began to see them as family." (Ep. 49) I don't think I need to elaborate too much on this but let's not forget that these words occur at the same time Tyler is playing with Aiden and smiling. To say they don't care for each other by this point in the story would be far from true.
After Tyler's death, we see Aiden more exhausted and worried, even if he still is trying to keep his mask up. We know that whenever Aiden is alone he drops his smile & mask but even so, after Ashlyn left with Mike, Aiden was still with the others in the waiting room. There were people around him and he still didn't smile, not to mention his hands were shaking during that whole encounter.
Tyler's death did affect Aiden because not only is it just an insanely traumatic event, it happened to someone he cares about.
Not a lot occurred after Aiden's death (by that I mean reaction-wise) because they all knew he'd wake up, not because they cared any less for Aiden than they did for Tyler. There being a lack of reaction from Tyler wasn't due to him not caring for Aiden's well-being, but because Tyler already knew that Aiden was awake and recovered quicker than he did.
Mid Season 2 -> Ep. 62 to Ep. 83 (The Facility)
The Facility "arc" was more focused on plot and lore rather than the relationships but even so we still have a ton of friendship moments within season two.
To me, it's extremely obvious that their back-and-forth has essentially completely shifted from genuine jabs at each other to friendly bickering. Once again, bickering ≠ fighting because of hate/dislike. I playfully bicker with my friends all the time but that's just it, it's playful and not done with ill intent.
At this point in the story they aren't doing it to piss each other off, it's just what their friendship is built upon. Neither seems to take any real offence towards it and clearly has no issue being in each other's presence.
Take the cuddle pile for example. While I've seen way too many people try and dismiss this as a jealous Aidlyn moment (first of all what the fuck), all it truly shows is that they're all way closer than they had been beforehand.
Aiden kept his hand on Tyler's waist likely to try and be there for him the best way Aiden knows how, and Tyler didn't give a damn. He let him put his hand there.
Similarly—while he did hold his head off him when Aiden was drooling—in the long run Tyler did let Aiden's body lean on his while Aiden was passed out. Him kicking Aiden off the wheelchair wasn't an action done out of malice, that's just how their friendship is.
I think it's important to mention the moment when Aiden attacked Alex, because while yes, Ashlyn was the one who ended up being hurt, Aiden did not know that. He didn't know what happened to them or who it happened to, he just could sense the fact that something had happened to one of his friends.
I've said this so many times and I'll say it again, if he had known it was Ashlyn he would've acted the same way he did when he didn't know. Likewise, if the person who had been hurt had been someone else—in this example Tyler—he would've also acted the same way. He reacted like this for all of them because he didn't know who it was. It's not an aidlyn moment it's a moment demonstrating Aiden's protectiveness for the whole group (which includes Tyler).
End of Season 2 -> Ep 84 to 96 (The Escape)
Now beginning with the bridge scene where Aiden was dragging Tyler. It's important to note that Aiden had no intentions of getting Tyler harmed when doing this, he was—like Tyler said—too focused on getting an adrenaline rush. After that Aiden remembered the last time he unintentionally got his friend hurt and chose against it. Had Tyler gotten hurt because of him he would've felt terrible because that's a big part of Aiden's character. Guilt and care for his friends.
Aiden might not care about his own health and safety, but he cares immensely about the safety and well-being of his friends. It's why the only time we see him not smiling—other than him being alone—is when he sees his friend hurt.
And whenever he messes up and gets someone hurt he feels insanely guilty about it, likely the reason he still holds onto that rooftop moment. He wouldn't have put Tyler (or any of them) in a situation where he knew they would've gotten hurt, he was acting on impulse and re-evaluated.
Delving into the bathroom conversation because it's SUCH an important part of their development and Aiden's character and I truly believe it's being set up so that Tyler plays a major role in Aiden's development next season.
Tyler is the first person (that we know of) to notice Aiden's suicidal tendencies and try to bring them up to him. The only way for Tyler to have been able to deduce that they heal based on their mental state would be for him to have looked back on Aiden's behaviour. Tyler himself states that Aiden didn't care about dying, and that this was a pattern from the beginning. It's literally in writing that Tyler has spent time looking back and realizing Aiden never cared for himself or his own safety.
Did he do this to help figure out a major factor in the dimension? Absolutely, but it doesn't mean that he didn't care for Aiden's well-being. Aiden is his friend (even if fans don't seem the agree) and he's come to the realization that this person he's grown to like probably wants to die, that's a lot for anyone let alone a teen.
Another smaller moment is when they split up and Tyler finds Aiden, you can't tell me he doesn't care for Aiden when his first instinct is to ask him what happened and if he's okay. We are seeing the beginning of Tyler realizing that his friend probably isn't well and being there for him more.
I think their bond will be insanely important moving forward in season three with the conversation in Ep. 91 & the fact that they're paired together. I know Red asked for pairings but they seem like they have a stable foundation now and I hope to see this continue to move forward with this plot point of Tyler knowing about Aiden's struggles when the others have yet to realize it at the moment.
Final Thoughts
That's all!
I know I didn't really discuss why in particular it isn't a toxic friendship but I figured the only way I really know how to do that was to try to show that their actions and bond isn't rooted in mutual dislike but has now shifted into playfulness and humour.
It would be easier for me to go through points if I knew what exactly your friend's opinion and stances were but I hope this helps others realize they don't actually dislike each other anymore and care very deeply for one another.
I know you were talking about them romantically and/or platonically but I wanted to focus on the canon dynamics. However, I don't see how any of their bond (ship or friendship) would end up being toxic and detrimental to the other since their bickering doesn't have any negative impacts on one another. At this point in the story there's no mistreatment occurring between them because they aren't doing anything to purposefully harm the other. It's just unserious moments with one another that hold no real distaste.
If there was anything else anyone wants my stance/opinion on regarding them feel free to ask, if you want me to make a post on how I think they (or anyone) would act as a couple then feel free to ask about that too. I'm trying to work on my asks more so please feel free to ask me anything :)
The idea that Tyler and Aiden aren't friends/still don't get along, irritates me because 90% of the time this ideology comes from hardcore Aidlyn shippers. No hate to the shippers it's just incredibly hypocritical of them considering Ashlyn didn't like Aiden at the beginning either. Yet, like Ashlyn, Tyler began to grow and let the others in, slowly learning to enjoy their company. If you're going to say Tyler and Aiden don't like each other because of how they were in EARLY season one then you can't like Aiden and Ashlyn's friendship either, sorry. Unless you're okay with being a hypocrite then idk have fun 🤷🏻♀️
I know this is an anon ask but I totally ask for you to send me another when you get their opinion since I'm nosy 😋
When I think of mischaracterized sbg characters I almost immediately go to Tyler Hernandez. Why? because he's so mischaracterized due to people focusing on ships too much.
This isnt a post for me to say "fuck you ik these characters better and im right" since people to perceive things differently this is just more me sharing my full Tyler analysis which I find most people (ive talked to) agree with me.
This is gonna be separated into four categories: personality, full death analysis, relationships, my opinion on fanon tyler takes.
I didnt realize how long this is gonna be until I actually started typing it so warning it's a long one :)
Personality
Were going to go from start to current on this.
Not much is known about how Tyler acted before his father's passing, other than he used to be your average loving kid. He enjoyed playing baseball with his father and his dad taught him and Taylor a few songs on the guitar one of them being Happy Birthday (which he later taught ben). Once his dad died his entire life practically got uprooted.
I find it odd that theres a chapter explaining his development and character yet he's still so mischaracterized. He slowly lost interest in everything, never doing anything fun. Instead focusing on taking care of his family like he watched his father do.
Despite how some portray it, Tyler doesn't find joy in playing baseball anymore. It became just a way to get into college. He doesn't see the point in indulging in things that he deems distractions or stupid. For example at the Sorrel Weed House he (rightfully so) found the phantom "prank" stupid, dragging Taylor out of the building. Like Ashlyn he too saw no point in friends. He didn't have time for 'such distractions'.
He's not one for sugar coating or beating around the bush, he'll be blunt. Such as him telling Logan he's pathetic for being scared of Barron while they deal with phantoms every night. While even Ashlyn acknowledges he was harsh she stated he did have a point, that Logan needed to learn how to defend himself.
Despite being easily annoyed and irritated at the beginning he cared for them in some form early on. Like when Logan got hurt in the bus he went to check on him, or when he heard Aiden yell Ashlyn's name when she got taken onto the roof Tyler almost immediately went to go check what happened.
Whether he realized it or not the others were beginning to be of concern to him. He slowly began warming up to them. This is first majorly seen after they get the jeep from Ashlyn's house. This being the first time we properly see him smile. He also shut Logan down when he tried to dodge Aiden's compliment. Telling Logan he should be proud of himself.
Tyler also is relatively observant, noticing and acknowledging the fact that Logan wants to do something to help Barron's new victim (Noah). He assures Logan that they'll all be there if he needs help. Not only showing how he's grown to care for them but that he'll help them when needed.
At Lily's birthday Ashlyn acknowledges that Tyler's become less of a jerk, quite literally stating in the comic that he's grown and become more comfortable around them. Allowing himself to make friends despite growing up thinking it was a waste of time.
I would talk about his death itself but the section below is gonna go into depth about it.
He has no will to keep himself guarded in front of them. His only concern being getting to Taylor. That's a pattern with how he operates. He WILL put those he holds closest above himself. He quite literally was about to die but the only thing on his mind was the fact that he'd be leaving them alone. That something might've happened to Taylor. That he needed to get to them.
Taylor states in the season two premiere that he began having fun with them, possibly beginning to see the group as his family. (Theyre family its canon shush). When Ashlyn goes to apologize to him he appears shocked but he doesnt accept her apology. Why? because he doesn't blame her, he knows it wasn't her fault. He cares for her, we can see how much he has grown. He even gave her a nickname that wasn't a form of insult. By which I mean he calls Aiden idiot and other things but not a genuine nickname.
After finding out that Aiden also died but woke up before him Tyler went to text Aiden. Whether that was to check on him or just to have someone to talk to who knows.
He's let down his walls for the group significantly, like when Logan, Ashlyn, and Ben found him in the facility. He in his own way asked for comfort, thanking Ben when he comforted him.
Overall Tyler's grown to care for all of them, seeing them as family. He's allowed himself to be open and vulnerable. Relying on the others at times (throughout his injury) as well as letting them rely on him (like when telling Logan the group will be there when he talks to Barron)
Death & Aftermath
His death was a pivotal point which is why I made a whole section dedicated to it. Not only is it a turning point for Tyler but for the story and everyone else.
NOTE: so I was going to do a full analysis here on this HOWEVER i'm just going to make it a separate post since this is long enough as it is and I want to keep this focused on Tyler whereas his death and aftermath discussion will be about everyone.
Relationships
Ethan Hernandez
Not much is known about his dad other than the fact he played a huge role in Tyler's life. He taught the twins a few songs on guitar, Happy birthday being one of them. This allowing Tyler to teach Ben for Lily's birthday.
Mariana Hernandez
After losing his dad, Mariana essentially wasn't mentally there. She's still dealing with her grief causing her to at times be unable to remember her husband isn't alive. This was shown when she wondered why her husband wasn't off work for Lily's party.
Tyler had to take care of both her and Taylor. When she came back to reality after Tyler died she stepped up to take care of him and be there for her children. He cares for him mom a lot.
Taylor Hernandez
Most of this goes without saying, hes protective of his sister, after all he needs to be. I assume this comes from the fact the twins canonically have separation anxiety (stated by Red on insta). This likely stems from losing their dad at an early age.
His sister is always his priority, when he woke up his first instinct when he heard a scream was to get to Taylor.
Ashlyn Banner
They don't hate each other despite what some fans believe. They actually never hated each other.
At the beginning they had conflicting ideals, Ashlyn thinking it'd be smarter to wait while Tyler wanted to go back to the Sorrel Weed House. This caused them to bump heads at times.
During the first night when Tyler cause Ashlyn to snap at him telling him to "be useful" he, despite being irritated prior to this, did make himself useful by helping with the chair legs. Ashlyn noticing his silence and wondering if she was too harsh. Showing that even then she had nothing against Tyler.
Tyler grew to care for others this includes Ashlyn when he hears Aiden yell her name, he also ended up carrying her to the car when she got concussed. The feeling of care is mutual first shown when the fight at the arcade happened. When background guy punched Tyler, Ashlyn immediately kicked the guy square in the head.
Ashlyn commented on how he was less of a jerk and how it was nice of him to teach Ben Happy Birthday for Lily's birthday since he can no longer sing it.
When Tyler died Ashlyn felt guilty, blaming herself for the incident. She was so upset that she couldn't protect him and the others. Tyler on the other hand didn't blame her at all. Brushing her apology off as if it was nothing. Because it WAS nothing, from his perspective she had no reason to apologize.
She was the first to find him in the phantom dimension. She was the one to administer the sedatives. Telling him "we're going to get you down... okay?" to which he responded with "okay..". She waited until he was sedated and she was off the ladder to fully react. Putting himself and his wellbeing first. She checked on him when they parked the car in the school that night.
When looking for the others in the facility she made note that she was worried for him (and aiden), remembering the way she last saw them both. Once finding Tyler and his bloody room she was shocked and concerned. Unable to react at the sight.
When Ashlyn revealed that she was the one to bring their parents into the phantom dimension Tyler shut her down real quick. Saying she was being melodramatic and that she would be the one who could get them out. Adding the "and anyone else who you decide to drag in" to which she replied saying she didn't decide to bring anyone in. With him ending the discussion with "then stop acting like it".
"they hate each other" they never have
Aiden Clark
Aiden and Tyler mutually made digs at each other. Aiden getting on Tyler's nerves easily. Overtime their arguing turned into playful banter. They grew to care for the other.
Aiden was worried when Tyler had died, while still managing to partially keep up his facade it is easy to tell he was worried for his friend.
Aiden not typically dropping his smile except in moments where someone he cares for is harmed. Tyler's no exception to this, as when he sees Tyler on the Tree he is visibly scared and in shock. Literally shaking from the sight.
Over the course of the comic Tyler grows accustomed to Aiden being around. His jokes and just presence. Eventually allowing Aiden to rest against him while they shared a wheelchair.
Ben Clark
Tyler offered to teach Ben guitar for Lily's birthday. The two have grown close. When Tyler died and woke up at the hospital Ben was seen with a "r u ok?" message on his phone. Tyler trusts Ben. We can see this when after they get Tyler off the tree Ben carrys him on his back. In the back of the car Ben keeps his eyes on Tyler.
Ben goes back to carrying him while they walk through the school. Once they get to the room he sets Tyler down and begins to re-bandage him due to Tyler bleeding through the bandages. When the roof begins to collapse Ben can be seen protecting Tyler's head and body under the desk.
When they find Tyler's room in the facility Ben too is shocked. Once Tyler says "...you know it doesn't really... make me feel... any better if you... react like that..." Ben immediately kneels next to him, ruffling his hand and giving him a smal thumbs up. As his way of trying to be there for him. This getting a small thanks from Tyler. Ben then sends Logan and Ashlyn to find the others and get a wheelchair while he stays with Tyler.
Ben can be seen redoing Tyler's bandages multiple times. He also was the one to push Tyler's wheelchair while they were walking around the facility.
Logan Fields
At the start Tyler thought Logan was pathetic for beinf scared of Barron. Eventually, like the others, he grew to care for Logan. When Logan got hurt he went to check on him.
At the arcade he noticed Logan wanting to do something about Barron so he encouraged it, telling Logan that him and the others will be there just incase.
When Tyler reunited with everyone in the hospital Logan can be seen crying, relieved his friend was okay. Like Ben and Ashlyn, Logan was shocked at Tyler's state in the facility.
During the walk through the facility Tyler mentions that "we should probably be a bit faster" where we got logans iconic "youre the one in a wheelchair" retort (love him).
My Takes
These are just my own personal opinions.
"Ashlyn and Tyler hate each other" you dont need to like the ship but to blatantly ignore their development is crazy. I wouldn't even put it up to development since they never hated each other. Theyre both just the type to believe and stick with their opinion and positions. They had conflicting ideas which lead them to debating but to say they hate each other couldn't be farther from the truth.
I honestly can't stand the way SOME fans make it seem like tyler hates everyone except Logan for some reason. He wouldn't be close to anyone except the GROUP. Why? because like ashlyn he didnt see the point in friends, not cause they hated everyone but because it was a waste of time in their minds.
Also he wouldn't use cringy ass nicknames or petnames, the only real nickname hes given is "carrot top" which yeah is funny but it's not like babyish does that make sense? Other than that the only thing person he really calls names is Aiden who he uses like insults PLAYFULLY. Again he doesn't hate any of them.
I don't understand how people can manage to mischaracterize him so bad when there's an entire chapter that explains about half of his character. Quick focusing on just early S1 sbg cause he had plenty of development in the first season alone.
If you've actually read this im fucking shocked, this shit took me like two hours to write omg.
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