Saint-Simonians in Nineteenth-Century France: Chapter One
Hello this is a very loose/informal collection of summary, notes & discussion I am compiling to help me better retain info, and since this is a topic I know is relevant to other people in Les Mis fandom as well. Please feel free to Contribute to discussion, but also be aware my prior knowledge of Saint-Simonism is not much so, like, probably a lot of this isn’t gonna be exactly ground-breaking.
OK so, first chapter. Mostly about the origin and beginnings of the movement, highly Combeferre relevant.
Saint-Simon himself was a supporter of the Revolution who was interested in the Polytechnique and who was also familiar with the director of Napoleon’s Egyptian Institute. His mentors included Condorcet. Like Condorcet, Saint-Simon wanted France to be governed by an “elite” of enlightened, productive, competent people. Initially he had kind of an authoritarian bent, but during the Empire he decided Napoleon sucked and got with the liberals including Jacques Lafitte. He proposed that industrialists and businessmen should take a leading role in the state and was real big on Economics. He and his liberal pals founded a society for elementary instruction, which the author of this book describes as being concerned with educating the poor “to be submissive and useful at the lowest possible cost.” So, kind of sucked?
Towards the end of his life though he got a bit more radicalized and turned against the liberals, concluding that economic growth would be better achieved through public works and social change rather than liberal economics. He divided society into two groups, industriels (everyone who had to do some work to survive including farmers, artisans, doctors, journalists, etc) and oisifs (landowners and investors who didn’t work). Sounding kinda proto-Marxist now. He also got briefly jazzed about New Religion, which he wrote would “prioritise moral doctrine; religious belief and doctrine will only be seen as [...] accessories.”
Saint-Simon died in 1825 but these new ideas he came up with the end of his life were taken over by his followers, especially Olinde Rodrigues, and became a big social movement that went beyond his initial ideas. (ex. Saint-Simon said nothing about women, women would become a major part of the movement). The biggest notion of the movement was fraternity, above liberty and equality. Saint-Simonians stressed that association was the key to progress and social regeneration, and was able to reform the individual.
Who were Saint-Simonians?
1.) Young. The post-Revolutionary generation, born in the first ten years of the nineteenth century. They were the first generation educated in the new revolutionary schools.
2.) Outsiders. Though many of the movement [especially men] were well-educated and upper-middle-class, they still felt [and often were] excluded by society in one way or another. An eighth of the movement was Jewish. Prominent leaders were illegitimate, or mixed-race, or political outsiders (including members of the charbonnerie). Women fall under this label as well and later on the movement would even enlist uneducated Parisian needlewomen.
3.) Well-educated. A large proportion of recruits were graduates (or current students of) the Polytechnique. Medical Students were also well-represented and were “disappointed that their training seemed to ignore new empirical developments in medicine, such as the links between social deprivation and ill health”. They were also into homeopathy and phrenology.
4.) Attractive. The book literally says “almost all adherents were good-looking” and it seems to be more important than you would think. They were also theatrical and flashy and wore pretty flashy clothing including the famed back-fastening waistcoats.Â
The group started up in 1825 but the first public meeting was held in December 1828. Members met on Tuesdays, Thursdays and Sundays in the rue Monsigny and rue Taitbout and had passionate debates as well as luxurious communal dinners with fine wines and meals-- the movement was about “enjoyment, not self-flagellation”. On Sundays they also met at midday for kind of an alternative “religious” service.
They talked a lot about philosophy and rejected Rousseau’s belief that “man is born free”, claiming instead that human nature is constructed and could be changed by the society they were in. This kinda doesn’t mesh with phrenology but whatever. They also believed in progress, that the Golden Age was ahead of them, but that “progress was not continuous but alternated between” phases of faith and scientific skepticism, reaching a kind of synthesis and then moving on to the next phase of faith. Pilbeam describes this as “a mixture of Hegel and Fourier”.
Saint-Simonians were not utopian and suggested practical solutions such as banking reform. While they were still big into economic growth, they thought that banks were a root cause of problems because they only cared about making profit for the wealthy. “The existing banks are founded by and for the idle.” Credit should be easily available for workers and entrepreneurs who would actually use the capital. They rejected revolutionary methods and liberal doctrines both, putting their trust in cooperation/fraternity. “To each according to his abilities, to each ability according to his efforts.” Property rights should not be dictated by conquest and birth but on a person’s potential ability and work; therefore they suggested an inheritance tax. They were also big on education.
Overall, some interesting ideas, some similarities with Marx but (and I’ve read this about the period in a few different places) the class struggle seems to place workers and entrepreneurs together against landowners and investors. Again overall it definitely seems relevant to Combeferre and makes me think about him in some new ways as well as solidifying some of my other vaguer thoughts about him. Lots of good information here, this is just the first chapter and I’m looking to getting more into it.
















