Oct 5, 2025
Hey this juggling lab thing is fun, I wonder if anyone's ever heard of it.
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Hey this juggling lab thing is fun, I wonder if anyone's ever heard of it.
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Thinking about how the httyd books take the often facetious objection to dragon rider stories of "hey if those are fully sentient creatures that you're subjugating and riding around as purely an extension of your own will. Isn't that kind of slavery?" An answers it with: "Yes, it absolutely is." The big twist of How to Train your Dragon is that dragon training is an act of horrid violence that is normalized and expected of young boys to consistently maintain. And that said violence is the livelihood and bedrock of an entire society that separates languages from its slaves and demands illiteracy from its citizens. Technically, this is all in the first book but that's all told from a child's perspective who's most coherent objection is that being mean doesn't come naturally to him. That's kind of the magic of it all. Not one reader I've known has read 'If you can't insult a fisherman so bad he cries then what kind of viking are you?' And expected the succeeding books to take themselves seriously about the psychological and political consequences of that mentality, but they eventually do.
Anyways, can't believe we fell for another trend-hopping YA dystopia series /j.
So. To work backwards on the established fandom line that the httyd books and movies are unrelated properties that happen to share a title. The first entries in each franchise are, if you squint, extremely similar in terms of plot structure.
Hiccup is a weak child who is expected to be stronger. He is tasked with Dragon Training to toughen him up. When tasked with hurting a dragon to prove his worth he fails to find the violence in him. This tension between what he wants and what is expected of him bubbles and boils until his final trial of Dragon Training when the depths of his failure to live up to the expectations of cruelty become undeniable. Culminating in a fight between himself and his father Stoick in which the threat of his disownment is extremely present. Only for an enormous dragon, unconquerable by mere vikings, presents itself and Hiccup uses his own and his classmates dragons to trick, confuse and eventually defeat the monster.
That plot summary, though dancing around a few things, is roughly accurate for both of them. In spite of vast differences in tone, world and structure. If you ask me, the primary difference in the type of story the two were telling is the choice to age hiccup up from 10 to 15 and to follow through with the different circumstances therein.
Case in point: There's a scene in the movie where Hiccup proposes the possibility of not necessarily become a great dragonslayer but becoming more of a 'breadmaking viking.' Hiccup is, in the movie, figuring out what he wants to be. He's in the dragonkilling business in the first place because of social pressure, yes, but also because he spent the first act of the movie incredibly passionate about the opportunity. Hiccup's conflict is, for a large part of the movie, internal. He doesn't know what he wants out of life.
Contrast this with Hiccup from the books, who's never expressed interest in 'training' dragons and is primarily doing so due to the threat of banishment if he fails. He never fails dragon training because of any principle. He outright has not been given enough agency in his life for any of his actions to read as betrayal. For him, there is no intent. There is only failure to appease. Where Hiccup in the movies is a teenager trying to figure out what he wants from life. Hiccup from the books is a child trying to figure out what the adults want from him and how to give it to them. Hiccup, at least in the first book, never says that 'training' dragons through intimidation the way he's taught is wrong. He only says he doesn't have it in him.
Absolutely not an 'adaptation' in the same way as my last post. But it is kind of funny that httyd 2 and 3 do take a lot of inspiration from specific books that were coming out at the time. Httyd 2 is inexplicably taking a lot of elements from book 10. With the appearance of Valka and the dragon trappers bearing a lot of resemblance to the focus on the Alvinsmen's evil traps. And the dictator trying to conquer the world for vengeance against dragons. I'm going to guess book 10 was chosen because it was newest at time of writing the movie. Even if 11 did come out a year before the movie's release. And, of course, movie 3 is infamous for unthinkingly copy + pasting the ending to book 12 in.
Yeah we've got #doomsday2024 for the next couple weeks. No, nothing's wrong, we do this annually. There's just a special fandom holiday we decided to create and call it doomsday. It's nothing bad, in fact it's quite pleasant. It's just that this is a fandom for a book series which contains 0 normal names for things.
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Man, Norbert takes one trip out into the open ocean and not only does he run into a seadragon so big they're 'not supposed to even bother with humans', It bloody follows him home and places him on house arrest for 15 years. Then, when he's finally free of it and tries to sail the journey he's been dreaming of for so long. He winds up persued by another dragon so inexplicable even the dragon expert he kidnapped thinks its supposed to be extinct. Nobody even knows why that one wants to eat his boat. The open ocean hates him so much it can't even throw normal problems at him. Gotta skip straight to the bewilderingly vindictive leviathans.
The funniest thing about the reveal that the othermind is Cottonmouth will always be that during the events of The Poison Jungle he either:
a) called people "splintery twig" and talked about his "weak little shoots" for fun. Because he's a silly little guy who loves plant metaphors.
Or b) decided to deliberately trick a bunch of dragons into thinking he was actually a sentient plant hivemind.
Why does the B-list poison kill you instantly. What kind of scam is this, the 'best' stuff takes so many months.