June 3rd-June 9th, 2019 CTP Archive
The archive for the Comic Tea Party week long chat that occurred from June 3rd, 2019 to June 9th, 2019. The chat focused on Galebound by Respheal.
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RebelVampire
COMIC TEA PARTY- WEEK LONG BOOK CLUB START!
Hello and welcome everyone to Comic Tea Party’s Week Long Book Club~! This week we’ll be focusing on Galebound by Respheal~! (http://www.galebound.com/)
You are free to read and comment about the comic all week at your own pace, so stop on by whenever it suits your schedule! Remember, though, that while we allow constructive criticism, our focus is to have fun and appreciate the comic. Below you will find four questions to get you started on the discussion. However, a new question will be posted and pinned everyday (between 12:01AM and 6AM PDT), so keep checking back for more! You have until June 9th to tell us all your wonderful thoughts! With that established, let’s get going on the reading and the chatting!
QUESTION 1. What has been your favorite scene in the comic so far? What specifically did you like about it?
QUESTION 2. Why and how do you think Conan has some of his own memories sealed? What did Altiria see that caused them such distress? How does this factor in to why Altiria thinks Din’s plans won’t pan out?
Respheal
In Altiria and Conan's defense, Din's plans fall to pieces if a butterfly crosses his path unexpectedly
RebelVampire
I accept the canon that Din can be tripped by butterflies
RebelVampire
I also accept a canon where Din starts yelling at the butterfly that it's 5 seconds too early and totally off schedule
Respheal
Yes
RebelVampire
Crack theory for #2: Conan was Felix all along. He doesn't know cause of the memories being sealed. and as Din befriends Conan, he will be torn between killing the friend hed come to love and the enemy he hates most in the world.
MJ Massey
Maybe the real Felix was inside us all along
RebelVampire
sorry Din, you've got felix germs inside you
1) the scene where Pascal shows up on the bridge to fight them. The look on everyone's faces is too priceless. And then everyone gets to have a nice chat and we get to see Pascal is just a great boy whose murder pants were a little too tight. 2) The memories are probably sealed for his own protection by someone who loves him. Cause why would anybody want to have to remember Felix? Altiria probably saw that Conan was the one true nobleman who was set to conquer them all. And that Din can't backstab conan so easily because of that.
Kabocha
MY FAVORITE SCENE! Is that one where Conan drowns after Alty tries to take him as a bri--- Wait that wasn't canon? Dammit, Conan! Realistically, though, I think it's currently the one here, starting at the end of Page 151: http://www.galebound.com/comics/2783990/151/ There's just.... a lot of weight. Pascal wakes up, and instead of really freaking out about nearly dying, he comforts his brother. You can learn a lot about Din and Pascal's relationship from these panels alone, and it's... something. (To me, it reads as Pascal being the one who buries a lot of his emotions - he never got a chance to really expect much out of life as a magician, before Din did what he did...)
Kabocha
Why does Conan have memories sealed... For... plot... reasons. You know, maybe Alty saw Conan's parents doing something. Maybe his parents are old enough to have been involved in the War of the Blind Kings--- What's that you say? No? :'D But on a serious note, one must wonder if Conan did something that necessitated his memories being sealed. A birth secret, perhaps? Maybe Conan's actually a part of the Gale that someone stole and put in a human body to learn the suffering of those under the system, to help give agency and consciousness to the arbiter of the Obligation. ...Hm. (Because right now, the Gale just... exists.) Alty, being a daemon, wouldn't like this naturally, right? If Conan's part of the Gale, she has a vested interest in making sure he returns to the cycle as he is. Anyway, Altiria's just expecting Din to get so judgemental that he misses everything going on in front of him. It nearly happened already with Pascal.... Rather than explaining things, he expected Conan to be another nobleman, and simply just hoped he could take care of things.
tl;dr: Conan ain't human, Din doesn't learn from his mistakes
Respheal
Hahaha that also addresses the question of why Alty didn't just tell Din (Communication, what's that?). Something that wild....Din wouldn't believe it even if (or perhaps especially if) Altiria just told him
Some things you gotta see for yourself xD
Or maybe they just wanna see Din faceplant
Kabocha
Well, that, and if Conan's even a fragment of the Gale, then that leaves him open to manipulation by magicians... Conan: I give command Din: I follow command.... BY USING YOU Conan: noes
Respheal
>:D(edited)
Kabocha
Also for the title, it makes sense? The Gale is bound....
Jo Michelle
Oh gosh, the end of Chap 5. YES. I was trying to figure out my favorite scene, but that would totally be it.
RebelVampire
tbf altiria could just believe both. that din wouldnt believe her and that she loves the idea of din faceplanting
Jo Michelle
Wait. If Con is Felix with the memories locked away, then, Conan's like "nice Light" in that section of Death Note SPOILERwhere he forgets about the book and is genuinely helping the police....END SPOILER ..... Oh no. Felix. What trap have you set for the world as soon as you get your memories back? This actually works well with my "Conan turns into a sociopath" theory..... jess sayin'
RebelVampire
i like this twist
that its cause felix has an awful plan in store
Kabocha
I dunno, I'm personally a fan of Conan being the Gale in human form.
Jo Michelle
Maybe he is, and he's also lost his memory of that?
RebelVampire
he can be both
Jo Michelle
He's the "power of the hurricane?"
https://genius.com/Frank-wildhorn-jack-murphy-and-ivan-menchell-hurricane-lyrics(edited)
That was a REAL reach there.... but, lyrics from the Death Note musical, sung by Light.
Don't underestimate my ability to reference three different things at once, and make a crack theory for Gb.
RebelVampire
Felix realized he was a part of the Gale but that the time was not right for the Shadowlord. So he sealed his memories, de-aged, and became Conan so that once the seal broke, it would be time to become the Shadowlord, merge with the Gale, and bring true destruction upon this land.
Kabocha
Bwahahahaha! The Dusk is an unjust land. The Gale can end it all peacefully with the power of the Shadowlord. It all comes tumbling down, tumbling down, tumbling down~
Respheal
To reference a crack theory from the GB server, if Din is destined to become the Shadowlord, I love the idea of Conan being the Gale
I'm a sucker for that sort of dichotomy
Kabocha
You say "Crack theory," I say "I've seen this before"
Jo Michelle
well, then, I feel obligated to copy/paste these lyrics:
I'll bring the rain
I'll bring the wind
I am the mighty hurricane
The human stains
And all their sins
Blown away
I'll bring the pain
So be afraid
I will bring the power of the hurricane
Conan's new life song?
Respheal
>:D
MJ Massey
I stan Conan as a Gale piece
MJ Massey
that would explain why he has no memories
maybe he's not Conan at all
Respheal
Okay before I gotta get to work I'll answer the questions, too because why not 1. Favorite scene....I tend to like scenes where the onion layers of a character get peeled back a bit and you get to see who they really are. For...well, kind of both Conan and Din, this is after the Pascal Incident™, when the dust is settling and the shock starts to wear off. We see Din as he is, a broken and terrified man stuck in an unfair and cruel system, backed into a corner. Conan, a young man thrown in a situation way out of his depth, but also a dutiful person willing to admit and correct his mistakes.
RebelVampire
#ConanDidNothingWrong
Respheal
http://www.galebound.com/comics/2681466/125/ http://www.galebound.com/comics/2683677/126/ <- these two pages specifically(edited)
Well not knowingly xD
......I'm going to avoid answering question 2 because my powers of bullshittery are weak and of course I know the real answer But Conan being the Gale.....well, trapping something that powerful in a human body would probably wreck havoc on that person....Wiping that person's memories as a result is plausible (edited)
RebelVampire
the real answer to number 2 is that Altiria realized that the entire comic is just a DnD campaign cause they were able to see the real life person who is controlling Conan. and they saw Conan's stat sheet, compared it to Din's, and realized Din got shitty rolls. cause Altiria is controlled by the DM.
Kabocha
But Alty's comparing a Magician to a Nobleman... Noblemen generally have a pretty good charisma modifier
RebelVampire
i feel sort of bad im the only one who picked a not super sad scene
im sorry for choosing to be happy everyone
Jo Michelle
I think you're in the wrong webcomic if you want happy....
SPOILER What did Altiria see that caused them such distress? END SPOILER
Okay. Here's what I think. Alty discovered that Conan's already signed a contract with Ursula, and they're like, mortal enemies with her.
Respheal
SURE
Jo Michelle
Instead of losing his voice, he's lost his memories until he can make Din fall in love with him.
And we all know.... that's never gonna happen.
RebelVampire
you lost be at din
this does not suit my conan/pascal ship
Jo Michelle
But, see, if he had his memories, all he'd need to do was tell Din to, since he's still got his voice.
no, see, this is why Con's doomed to fail.
Since, we all know that would never happen.
And when Ursula gave him the contract, she's like, "see, I even left you your voice to use as a Nobleman."
Respheal
> Contract Confirmed, Conan is a Warlock
.....or a Magical Girl
Jo Michelle
A MG who's doomed to fail.
Because, of course he is.
Kabocha
...Conan is Homura?
Jo Michelle
That doesn't feel quite right as a fit.....
Okay, but which ever one he is, his transformation into the Gale or Shadowlord will be when he gives into despair, and realizes his hopes were doomed from the beginning.
MJ Massey
why not both a warlock AND a magical girl. two times the tragedy
Respheal
>:D
I am okay with this
Kabocha
Everyone is doomed
Sarai
ok there have been a lot of great scenes in Galebound so far, but i think the one that always jumps out to me is where I first jumped into the comic, when Pascal snuck into the Inn during the dark hour
For me, that scene is what shifted my opinion from "oh this is neat i wonder what happens next" to "DANG SON THIS AUTHOR MEANS BUSINESS"
MJ Massey
I think that's my favorite scene too
Sarai
also i think i found it on a thursday or something, because by the time i caught up there was a new page Din in all his yellow magician-y glory, and Pascal in the middle of a swear XD
Jo Michelle
"You kiss your momma with that mouth?" Oh, yeah. She's dead. Never mind.
Respheal
That wouldn't stop Din from threatening Pascal with soap
MJ Massey
it's more like "would you kiss ME with that mouth? how dare...!"
Jo Michelle
oh that's just weird.
MJ Massey
that Din expects brother kisses?
Jo Michelle
I feel like Din is definitely one of those "do as I say not as I do" parenting styles.
RebelVampire
Din: Don't sell out magician children to the Nobleman. Pascal: But- Din: Do as I say, not as I do!
Kabocha
"You can't seize the means of production without being NEAR the means of production!"
Sarai
oh shoot i realized i never answered the second question
as far as theories go, i don't really have any I haven't been given enough information to really form an idea other than conan's dad leaving, him getting sick, and then his memories disappearing, are all connected somehow
OTHER THAN THAT i'm just along for the ride
Jo Michelle
Oh, they're connected. Felix definitely poisoned him.
A side affect was losing his memory.(edited)
Sarai
o-oh.....ok
But why tho
Jo Michelle
Does Felix need a reason? Other than he's Felix?
Sarai
you got me there
I was thinking it was something magic-related, not necessarily a mundane childhood illness or someone else's doing
Jo Michelle
He used a magical potion.
Sarai
but really, all i know for sure is that i'm young, dumb, and a complete sucker for sick fics
Jo Michelle
A memory destroying potion. Getting sick was the side affect.
Sarai
or sick cannon, as it be
Jo Michelle
He needed to destroy his memory, since Conan knew ...... something.....
give me a minute.
Sarai
he walked in on felix SPOILER getting pollinated by a flower daemon END SPOILER
HE SAW TOO MUCH
Jo Michelle
That'll give anyone an automatic sickness and memory loss.
Sarai
maybe that's why altiria was so mad
Jo Michelle
But, for real..... I think Conan knew something about a BIG baddie's plan, and Felix gave him a memory blocking potion.
Note, for real should have been written "for real" ..... since I know things. :puffer:
Sarai
oh yeah, i forgot you weren't a lowly pleb like me XD
Jo Michelle
:puffer:
Sarai
you patreon people with your fancy spoiler privileges and early scripts
Jo Michelle
For real though, I actually don't know why or exactly how he lost his memory. I have guesses, but nothing's confirmed.
So I'm going with memory potion.
And he knows SOMETHING big. I'll bet that's why Alty freaked out too.
HE KNOWS A THING THAT MUST NOT BE SHARED.
Respheal
This is true, even patrons don't have the exact details yet
Muahahahaha >:3c
Jo Michelle
I'll bet it's the secret to bringing down the Gale, but that would also destroy the world.
And Alty's like "nope. No way."
"Your memory's a ticking time bomb."
Sarai
I'm assuming.....we'll be revisiting that moment from childhood at some point, right?
Respheal
I do sometimes describe Conan as SPOILER a time bomb END SPOILER ....
Uhhhhhhh
Probably not in full flashback form unfortunately
Jo Michelle
I'm RIGHT. My theory is now confirmed.
Conan has a secret hidden in his childhood memories that could destroy the world. And Alty figured it was better to make sure it's never revealed.
Respheal
"Not again"
Is a thing Alty yelled
Jo Michelle
Wait. WHAT?
Mahotou
http://www.galebound.com/comics/2529569/086/(edited)
Jo Michelle
.........
Mahotou
c:
Jo Michelle
I have no idea what to make of this.
Mahotou
i have fears
Respheal
:3c
Mahotou
c,:
Jo Michelle
Well. I'm just gonna assume Felix managed to do something REALLY horrible to the dang ocean and Conan knows how he did it, if he'd only remember.
When in doubt, I always blame Felix.
It's worked so far.
Respheal
That's fair
Sarai
one fear
Jo Michelle
To be fair, if something destroyed the ocean, that would definitely hurt the Dusk, sooooooo RIP Conan. The world needs its ocean more than another Nobleman. Sorry. No hard feelings?
AND. Felix, after nearly destroying the ocean went off to face the Gale, and ....... well...... he's had a bit of a revolving life ever since.... :puffer:
I lied. Felix didn't administer the memory potion. It was Conan's mom. To protect the world.
Felix was happy to have his son learn how to wreck havoc and destruction on the planet.
Sarai
i know we've slandered her before but it always feels so wrong
Jo Michelle
I'm not slandering Conan's mom. Just saying she made a hard choice between her son's memory, and the world.
Felix is the one who made her have to make such a choice.
Still totally his fault. He just left her to deal with the aftermath when he left to take on the Gale.
Kabocha
You know how I said Conan is the Gale? Maybe people tried this before. What could a lone nobleman with a daemon fragment inside him do... ...enrage Alty, that's what.
Jo Michelle
WAIT. Was that what happened when he got sick?
Felix was inserting a daemon into him?
Respheal
Having a literal hurricane stuffed into a child's body would probably have that effect(edited)
Jo Michelle
In the eye of a hurricane
There is quiet
For just a moment
A yellow sky
I was twelve when my mother died
She was holding me
We were sick and she was holding me
I couldn’t seem to die
I couldn't resist
Kabocha
What daemon hell has Felix wrought...?!
Respheal
Oh
Oh that song
Mahotou
Is felix systematically destroying the world one element at a time? Ocean, Gale, .. what next. Fire?(edited)
Respheal
Oh shit Conan was twelve at the time(edited)
Kabocha
I mean
Jo Michelle
Wait. WHAT?
I thought he was like, 7 or 8
Respheal
No that's when Felix left xD(edited)
Kabocha
@Mahotou if he's taking the elements... ...then. that explains where his heart went
Is he trying to make captain planet
Mahotou
negative captain planet
reverse captain planet
Kabocha
He wants to start dusk on a rotation
Mahotou
If i change the gale, i can get the world spinning
Kabocha
He's getting captain planet to make all of dusk habitable
Although everyone will freak out at their newfound nights...
Mahotou
#SAVETHEPLANET
D:!?
WHAT A TWIST
FELIX IS UPSETTING THE WORLD TO SAVE IT
Respheal
Irony (edited)
Kabocha
Gotta crack some eggs to make a cake
Jo Michelle
Eh. That's just cause his mom told him one time that he couldn't live in the Shadow or the Galelands.
And he doesn't like being told "no"
Mahotou
aaaand we're back to the normal slander. ;D
Kabocha
No, Felix's DAD told him no
Jo Michelle
Sure.
Kabocha
Felix has daddy issues, because his dad disappeared for years....
Mahotou
we haven't talked much about Conan's grandparents. makes me think about them now lol
Jo Michelle
It's a whole legacy of being horrible fathers.
I mean, they ARE Noblemen.
Mahotou
and then what of the mom's side. how was she raised?
Kabocha
His father had a reason though: international business
Jo Michelle
Oh. I see. One of those guys who destroy some other country for cheap labor. Yep. Sounds like a Nobleman.(edited)
Kabocha
She was arranged in that marriage
Jo Michelle
Oh, yeah. She didn't have a choice.
Sarai
heck even in non magical families abuse gets handed down through the generations - i wouldn't be surprised if Felix had an equally bad relationship with one or both of his parents
Kabocha
Oh, she might have had a choice
Jo Michelle
What, you think anyone would choose to marry Felix?
Kabocha
It might have been to improve her own circumstances... Or because Evenheim was closer to Cymaria... Or.... [Makes up bullshit about Felix's parents]
Oh, I was talking about Felix's mom
Not his wife
Jo Michelle
Oh, I thought we were talking about Conan's mom.
Mahotou
@Jo Michelle only if he's ... some how... not Felix?
xD
OH me too i thought we were talking about conan's mom too(edited)
Jo Michelle
I stand by the "some parent or person forced her to marry Felix" theory.
Kabocha
But what if she LIKED Felix
Respheal
gasp
Jo Michelle
What, LIKE Felix?!?
Mahotou
SLANDER?
Kabocha
Alternatively, she could be like... Charlotte Lucas, who married, but arranged Mr. Collins' day so he was out of the way...
Jo Michelle
You realize that if she actually cared about Felix, him leaving would be even more painful. I prefer to think of it as a relief to her.
She got a happy few years with her son and no Felix.
Kabocha
Maybe she liked the idea of Felix, but he was actually really annoying and overbearing
Felix wanted a life in the clergy
Jo Michelle
Oh, I'm sure he was super annoying and overbearing.
Sarai
don't forget neurotic
Everything had to be done just so
Jo Michelle
Oh yeah. She had to do it exactly the way he said.
Sarai
"no conan, you can't plant the lettuce 2 inches apart they must be 2 1/2"
Jo Michelle
"yes papa."
-Get's measuring tape from house to make sure-
See? Why would anyone marry that out of choice?
Definitely an arranged marriage. Or something like it.
Sarai
wait res, how many years ago did felix and celia get married
Kabocha
I hope we don't run into anyone worse than Felix
Respheal
Uhhhhhhh
24 I think
Yeah
Sarai
ok so not marriage of convenience then
Jo Michelle
:puffer:
Sarai
just running through all our options here
Kabocha
In this week's chat: All the Felix hate
Jo Michelle
And @RebelVampire isn't even here to defend the jerk.
Mahotou
There s so much slander happening lol
Respheal
Mostly about Felix xD Which is....fair....Based on what we know so far of him, surely he isn't up to anything good
Darkhalo4321
Hey
Felix is a good dad deep down i am sure...
i refuse to believe otherwise
Jo Michelle
Oh, yeah. Leave his kid to plant and morn his mom alone. But he's a good dad deep down, so it's all good. It's all good.
Kabocha
He had neighbors
Darkhalo4321
He was in good hands.
Sometimes a good dad lets better people raise their kids.
keii4ii
I'm walking in and am somewhat confused by the whole room just BURNIN' with Felix hate
insert 'pizza guy walks into a room on fire' gif
Respheal
Keiiii
Felix is just a very polarizing character.....for someone who hasn't actually shown up yet lol
keii4ii
Dedicating the following emoji to Felix tonight:
keii4ii
I bet some of the characters would approve of the Felix hate though
RebelVampire
Felix is gonna turn out to be a great dude and @Jo Michelle is gonna eat a hat out of frustration when that happens
im saving all my felix propaganda for the felix question thats later in the week O_O
Kabocha
Hahaha!
The basis of Felix hate really hinges on two pages
http://www.galebound.com/comics/2432399/059/ And http://www.galebound.com/comics/2674968/123/
http://www.galebound.com/comics/2683677/126/ this page also maybe helps, but I don't trust Din to see things well under duress
keii4ii
^ Same (No offense, Din.)
RebelVampire
you couldve left that at "I don't trust Din"
that's all that needs to be said
RebelVampire
QUESTION 3. At the moment, who is your favorite character? What about that character earns them this favor?
QUESTION 4. What do you think will happen once Din and Conan reach Cymaria? Will Din’s plans unravel, or will the two manage to slay the queen? What will be the consequences of either path?
RebelVampire
3) Felix who is the best character who is trying to save the world. It's definitely not Pascal. It's not like Pascal is the best dresser and basically is the dude that gets the short end of the stick throughout the comic. Not to mention Pascal definitely isn't just adorable or anything. Plus, Pascal isn't even the most reasonable of the characters who is filled with surprises yet just wants everone to be alive and happy for his parties. 4) Everyone will sit down for tea. Realistically? Din's plans will fall apart because of whatever reasons Alty knows. Plus, I think Din overestimates his skills as a magician and underestimates the difficulty in killing a monarch, not to mention a nobleman. and thus Conan and Din will be in jail or wanted men or something. And then Pascal will become an accomplice and they'll all flee Cymaria trying to outrun their wanted posters and searching for Felix to punch him in the face. So ya know, Galebound will just be the most epic fantasy road trip, maybe with bank robberies. Honestly, does anyone actually think Din is going to succeed? I feel there isn't anyone who has faith in him.
Jo Michelle
I was called OUT last night.(edited)
Fave Character? Definitely Pascal. Most intriguing character, as in, onion layers of emotion I'm anticipating seeing stripped away? Din.
Reach Cymaria? Oooohhh, that's a good question. I think the queen is secretly super evil, and actually working for scary grin lady in the prologue. But she's also super smooth talking and smart, and will trick Conan into listening to her, poor sap that he is, and get him to turn on Din. MAYBE, Conan will even start to think he's falling in love with her – but then find out she's been using him, and make him even more upset, when he realizes he almost cheated on Lucie for this person.
RebelVampire
Lucie couldve been Conan's mistress at least.
Jo Michelle
OH no. I don't see her being okay with such an arrangement.
RebelVampire
tbf we havent met the real lucie yet. maybe shes secretly a gold digger who knew conan was a prince all along and just wanted that sweet evenheim gold
Jo Michelle
Hum. That's a good point.
And I already said what I think of Conan's judgment with women, so I guess I can't fall back on "but Conan wouldn't have loved her if she wasn't good."
Okay. Point made. Fine.
RebelVampire
the one good thing din did for conan
saved him from proposing to the wrong girl
Jo Michelle
Re: Felix is a Good Dude: I'm just using the Sirius test:
Sirius shook his head and said, “She’s got the measure of Crouch better than you have, Ron. If you want to know what a man’s like, take a good look at how he treats his inferiors, not his equals.”
.... You want to know the measure of a Nobleman? Ask a Magician.(edited)
There's no reason to hide your true nature from a person who has to do literally whatever you tell them to.
RebelVampire
but the only magician we can ask is din and din is a biased source who is basing his hatred on info that is years out of date
Jo Michelle
Eh. How an adult treated you as a child is not a bad estimate either.
I'm not saying he couldn't have changed. Just that I'm gonna have to see some darn good evidence of that change.
In Din's case, he was in the inferior position as both a Magician and a child.
To be fair, full disclosure – I don't think Felix is the worst person ever. Heck, he might be pretty typical of Noblemen. I mean, his treatment of Din could be totally normal. But that doesn't make it any better, or excuse him one bit.(edited)
RebelVampire
thats fair. i more think its better to assume neutrality and give benefit of the doubt that he isnt the same person. which gives room also for him to be far worse too, but hey gives him a chance
i will point out though that conan barely didnt anything wrong on purpose and din hated him on principle
din is himself not the best person XD
Jo Michelle
Din is what Felix made him.
Felix, and others.
Din was a lost, confused, hurting, traumatized boy.
But let's not forget who, at least, contributed to that.(edited)
RebelVampire
Din is also an adult now and in charge of his own choices though. And his adult choices are garbage. If Felix had been abused and locked in a closet, would that excuse the choices he made? XD
Jo Michelle
Oh, I'm not excusing Din now. That's the problem with pain and trauma – the way it spreads.(edited)
BUT, the person with power here is still Felix.
Even if Din is responding totally wrong, the people with the power are still the Noblemen, so the greater responsibility for ending the violence still rests on them.
It's like the moral equivalency fallacy of [spoiler blocked for those who don't want to think about politics] SPOILER of white supremacists and anti-racism bombings, such as in South Africa. No, killing innocent people isn't right and will just produce more pain and suffering, but the two aren't equivalent, because of power. END SPOILER This is why I judge Felix more harshly than Din.
RebelVampire
That's fair.
I can't take the same path cause I don't think all the evidence is in order. Cause we haven't met Felix, don't actually have a factual account of what he even did to Din, and so forth. So while I can agree that Felix can be judged more harshly via power in certain contexts, I think its unfair to cast judgement at the moment.
Kabocha
Question: How do we know that whatever Felix and Din's interaction was, that it wasn't like... Self defense?
It was clearly BAD, but Din was a child
Jo Michelle
That's also fair. But, for me, the burden of proof will be on Felix.
RebelVampire
yeah thats another reason i dont trust Din's account of everything and label him a biased source. Cause he was a child at the time of whatever happened just by the context clues
cause kids dont generally have all the info to a situation.
cause adults dont tell
also cause they have kid brains
not to mention were expecting din's account to even be accurate after years
and memories are faulty
even when trauma is involved
which again
Felix may be the most awful person in the world
I just pass no judgement based on Din's account
as far as im concerned, din is no better than the boy who cried wolf right now
which acually is a better analogy then i intended. cause his hatred of conan really damages his case against felix.
which inevitably makes me sorry for Din if Felix is as awful as he thinks
Din is undoing his own case
Jo Michelle
No, Din is just proving my point about power and Noblemen in general. I recently heard and wrote down a great definition of racism: Prejudice + Power to enforce your Prejudice = Racism That's why oppressed people can be prejudice, but not racist. So, sure, Din is prejudiced against Noblemen in general, and Felix in particular, but that's mostly from experience. Conan seems to be his first encounter with a Nobleman that didn't confirm his expectations.
RebelVampire
i think this convo is going a bit too political at this point so im gonna reign it in
Jo Michelle
Okay, sorry.
RebelVampire
no its fine. im just reigning it in before it goes too far to real world.
cause at this point were touching on a very sensitive, relevant real world topic.
and thats inviting chaos
Jo Michelle
Should I spoiler hide that last comment?
RebelVampire
nah cause when i archive it, itll be visible anyway.
Jo Michelle
ah.
Really?
good to know.
RebelVampire
yeah. someday i will address that if i get a real website for CTP, but right now things are just archived as plain text.
At least we can agree that Pascal is the best
I mean umm...Felix. Yes. Definitely not Pascal.
Pascal the angel
Respheal
The abuse of greatness is when it disjoins remorse from power
Not gonna lie, I didn't expect this story to touch on some real world problems when I first started writing it x'D this was just going to be a road trip(edited)
RebelVampire
tbf you overthink anything too much and you can put real life themes on it.
which is whats supposed to happen
it is the mark of good fiction
Respheal
Yeah, and it...worked? x'D but I do realize that because these Very Real Themes are a part of it now, I have to be able to handle those themes respectfully.(edited)
I will answer question 3 in a bit and make you all mad that the answer is Felix (edited)
....actually nvm I should answer based only on the current canon ahahaha
RebelVampire
yes pick Felix O_O
i cant pick felix cause hes not in the story yet
maybe someday
Respheal
Felix actually is my fave, but yeah he's not in the story yet. Although he has clearly had a huge impact on it so far. He's like a massive object and every other character is sucked into his gravity well
If I had to pick from current canon (which is like the boys and Altiria).....that's a tough call
RebelVampire
obviously altiria since they can just drown everyone
Respheal
You're right. The only sensible choice
I am actually struggling to pick so let's go with that
Kabocha
3. At the moment, who is your favorite character? What about that character earns them this favor? Altiria! I'm sorry, Alty's natrually quite salty. It just flows out of them seamlessly... Altiria seas and knows all in the world, for Altiria is all water... Water we waiting for, we should all cheer for our water god! 4. What do you think will happen once Din and Conan reach Cymaria? Will Din’s plans unravel, or will the two manage to slay the queen? What will be the consequences of either path? AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAAHHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAA Conan's gon' die. Unless they opt for an infiltration - Din only has to bring Conan to Cymaria... Right? I guess it depends on how that command's interpreted
RebelVampire
maybe they never make it to court. maybe they stop at burger king on the way but pascal wont let them leave until he gets all the toys from the kids meal
and nobody told him you didnt have to buy the meal to get the toy
MJ Massey
4. What do you think will happen once Din and Conan reach Cymaria? Will Din’s plans unravel, or will the two manage to slay the queen? What will be the consequences of either path?
I think they'll intend to slay the queen but then find out she's not the true villain. She's actually pretty cool, but it's the royal vizier/high priest/magician who's the REAL villain. They'll team up to try to stop them, but the queen will inadvertently die in the process and it turns out SPOILER she was Felix the whole time END SPOILER
Jo Michelle
SPOILER Not gonna lie, I didn't expect this story to touch on some real world problems when I first started writing it x'D this was just going to be a road trip END SPOILER
I thought the same thing, friend. We all did, I think.
Respheal
As for question 4......well, we're not even all the way through act 1 so of course things are gonna hit the fan
RebelVampire
the bigger question is how can galebound end happily
Jo Michelle
Things, huh? :cornytea:
Kabocha
The bigger question is: CAN it end happily
Respheal
That is actually a good question
Kabocha
I posit the following: No.
MJ Massey
I agree
no way Res is gonna let the cast off that easy
RebelVampire
everything will turn out fine. then a rogue meteor will come and crash into the planet, pushing it out of orbit
Jo Michelle
I'm trusting in Res's enjoyment of the end of "Speak".... it's literally the only evidence I've got going for my hope in a "happy" ending...(edited)
Kabocha
@RebelVampire This isn't Final Fantasy!!
RebelVampire
thats just what res wants us to think
felix is the meteor
Respheal
A sufficiently large meteor might kick the planet out of its tidal locking therefore eliminating the extreme focused heat that fuels the Gale
RebelVampire
ya know i was mostly just joking, but then res came in and said that
i think this is as good as canon
Kabocha
ominous chanting
Respheal
If this were Final Fantasy the eclipse planet would come crashing down but right before it hits--surprise it was a giant dragon's prison all along so it's death by dragon instead of by meteor
RebelVampire
and felix was the imprisoned dragon?
which is where hes been all this time
Respheal
Yes
Kabocha
...So it's not Final Fantasy, it's Fire Emblem
RebelVampire
Fire Fantasy
well just combine them
Mahotou
Final Emblem
RebelVampire
Fire Fantasy V: The Final Emblem
Jo Michelle
Felix is a dragon. I can live with that.
RebelVampire
ok so its been approved. Felix is a dragon canon is a go.
can sleep on his pile of gold and kidnap princesses
and eat them
Jo Michelle
Like Conan's mom. She was a kidnapped princess.
Respheal
......So Conan's part dragon now?
RebelVampire
yes
see
Jo Michelle
Confirmed.
RebelVampire
this canon gets better and better
conan is gonna wake up one morning and wonder why he can breathe fire
Jo Michelle
That literally happened in a kids book I read once.
Kabocha
reads chat
...So Conan is a Manakete, which explains why Dusk time seems so weird to him if their solar cycle is............ rapid
It's not that dusk is fast, it's that Conan is old
WAIT CONAN IS GRIMA
Respheal
You caught me
Jo Michelle
I need to see a Conan art with dragon fire or wings now.
Sarai
There was a story I read where dragons took human form and could only access their dragon form through a magic device passed down through their family
I'm not saying conan's pocketwatch lets him turn into a dragon but
Mahotou
Are these hypothetical dragons... daemons?
Respheal
They probably would be
Mahotou
xD more Conan Hybrid Theory
Sarai
But important to note, in that story only full-blooded dragons could transform
Half-dragons ended up with horns and tails and lizard-like ear flaps
RebelVampire
conan hasnt hit dragon puberty yet. din is in for a nasty surprise
Sarai
BUT since we're talking about Conan, I'm gonna say he's my favorite right now, in an answer to question 3
I'm in love with Pascal and the sun shines a little brighter every time I see him, but Conan is one of the few characters I can point to and say "hey, he thinks like me!"
Mahotou
#relatable
Sarai
We have a strikingly similar way of processing things and making decisions, and I don't see that a lot in fiction
Especially fantasy
Jo Michelle
Good job Res!
Sarai
That's why I couldnt get mad at him for the Pascal Incident™
Its exactly what I would have done
Jo Michelle
That's fair. .....
Kabocha
(guys I think the inside jokes are escaping)
Jo Michelle
which ones?
I mean, other than Shadowlord.
Felix is the worst
Kabocha
The SHADOWLORD CANNOT BE CONTAINED
hybrid theory
conan is secretly going to end the world... etc
................... Carry on
Jo Michelle
Okay, I see your point.
RebelVampire
oh man if were basing fave character on who we relate to the most, idk who to pick
maybe lucie for me cause shes the character who is just back at home not getting involved with all the adventures
Respheal
yet
Mahotou
what's lucy going to do when she finds her best bud is missing? for two/three dark hours(edited)
Kabocha
Rebel, how do you handle spoiler tags in archives?
Jo Michelle
Well, that would be Checkers.
RebelVampire
they are visible as plain text
Respheal
I'm okay with that being visible, I'm half saying it out of humor xD
RebelVampire
cause there just isnt a good way to do them in regards to tumblr's setup
@Mahotou im gonna repeat a thing i said on the server for in regards to what lucie will do: just assume he went and pulled a felix and get herself a new boyfriend
Mahotou
OH NO
xD
looking at the questions, I don't know who's my fav as a character. but I like Pascal as a person c:
sweet boy cant catch a break
that's like his description too or something
Respheal
It is xD
Mahotou
too good for this world. cant catch a break
xD
oh and for question 4. What if! Conan got kidnapped by the Cymaria Court and he gets a WHOLE OTHER view of this situation? they try to convince him of their side away from Din.
Mahotou
I think i got this idea from Fire Emblem. Birthright/Conquest
two sides of one situation O: dun dun dunnnnn
Jo Michelle
Ooohhhh
That would be a twist.
Mahotou
# NOW who's the bad guy? Conan technically has limited information but he DOES have experience with the magic and obligation on magicians. and the weird amulet
but what if truths are twisted? Who should he side with O: dun dun dunnnnn
... he'd prolly wanna go home to his Lucie and forget this lol(edited)
RebelVampire
semi off topic, but arcein. arcein is the bad guy.
if they talk like a villain, smile like a villain, and do creepy vague shit like villains, theyre probably a villain
Mahotou
/subvert expectations OH LETS MAKE HER THE GOOD GUY XD
300 year old spirit thing with creepy grin in an amulet. was trapped like a Genie when she tried to do a good but it did a bad/
Wish we knew more about her in canon. She could be a fav character O:
Kabocha
gotta wonder how many people in galebound are actually good guys
and Din's just the one who wants to burn the world
Sarai
conan is a goode boye
and so is pascal
he tried to be mean once boy nearly put himself into an angst coma
enshogirl
The Good: Artemis (#1 good), Pascal, Conan The Bad: Din, Felix, Altiria and The Ugly: Arcein, King Cymaria
Respheal
Altiria as bad? xD
RebelVampire
i mean
i dont think you can say altiria is good either
Respheal
I guess for the most part I consider daemons to be neutral(edited)
RebelVampire
thats fair although from a story perspective she has attempted murder of conan on her book
Respheal
Truuuuuue
enshogirl
I don’t trust her
RebelVampire
QUESTION 5. What has been your favorite illustration in the comic so far? What specifically about it do you like?
QUESTION 6. How do you think Pascal will adjust to being both deaf and cut off from magic? How will he wind up helping or hurting Din and Conan? Ultimately, do you think Pascal’s life will be better or worse for what happened?
Kabocha
For question 5... http://www.galebound.com/comics/2449333/064/ THIS PANEL Holy shit Res really pulled off magic with this one!! I just love the energy and the sense of Din's sheer power here. In retrospect, you have to wonder if it was amplified because he was really following two commands at once? As far as Pascal goes... I think Pascal's honestly going to adjust. He's adaptable, and strikes me as the type of person who takes life as it comes. So this sort of outcome might actually be a bit freeing in some respects... ...Although in the meantime, I'm sure there'll be lots of worrying about what he's good for, what'll happen to him, and such... He's no longer useful to anyone as a magician, really.
(That is to say, I'm looking forward to Pascal fostering kittens. That's clearly what he's got to do with his life after this!!)
MJ Massey
I feel like Pascal has strong strangling hands
Jo Michelle
I CAN'T choose a page! Or an illustration. But it would definitely be one of those in the end of chap 5 ... ALL THE FEELS THERE.
MJ Massey
so he's going to become a pro strangler
Jo Michelle
Although I'm kinda super partial to the illustration that's going up for today It's so heartbreaking and pretty, okay?!?
Actually, I think Pascal is going to go through a quarter life crisis, buy a muscle carstrong horse and take off on a road trip across the Dusk to "find himself."(edited)
Freedom, baby!
Jo Michelle
But I'm kinda in love with Din's half lit expression from this page: http://www.galebound.com/comics/2771099/147/(edited)
Respheal
Quarter life crisis
Jo Michelle
I mean, he's not quite at a quarter life, but..... he's getting there?
And I LOVE the body language in this one: http://www.galebound.com/comics/2780569/150/
Especially Len. My new favorite side character. The adult this problem child needs.
Kabocha
As far as head canons are concerned... All we know at the moment is she was SHOCKED that Din did what he did.
Jo Michelle
Oh, you know I can build an entire life history from a face shot and three paragraphs about Felix. I've got way more about Len here.
Kabocha
https://tenor.com/view/tea-shade-goth-halloween-gif-4637758
RebelVampire
5) For favorite illustration, I gotta go with Pascal gets his butt beat #1 http://www.galebound.com/comics/2369956/040/ The lighting on this is really great. Plus I really like the slanted angle it has going on. I think there's something about that choice that really makes you empathize with Conan. Cause much like the angle is expressing something is kind of not right in terms of the balance of the world, this is the first time extreme magic is at play. So it really puts you in Conan's shoes where you're like "Is this happening my life is a lie" 6) Deaf I think he'll go with easily cause I think for Pascal that one will be easier to roll with the punches for. Magic? That sounds harder if you've basically relied on it for most of your life. Cause at that point I'd think it'd be an instinctual thing that's gonna hurt when you try to fire blast someone but forget you cant actually do that anymore. Pascal's life will probably be better. He can chameleon into the crowd now and party all the parties. As for helping or hurting Din and Conan, I feel like hurt might be more likely. Just cause Pascal is kind of a distraction for Din. Cause Din was doing okay but everytime Pascal showed up he had to change his plans. Which I guess is me saying Pascal is Din's bad luck charm.
Jo Michelle
Oh, yeah, that's a GREAT moment. It's actually one of those that came to mind.
Respheal
I'm still really happy with Conan's expression on that page
Jo Michelle
Oh yeah. "Shi--" just hit the fan there.
RebelVampire
i think everyone's faces looks there. one of the few pages where im like "Din isn't that bad a dude" O_O
RebelVampire
overall i like any page that's a double spread for illustration. cause while mobile design is the way to go, it means theres less and less double spreads going on. so when i see them i squee
Respheal
I enjoy doing those pages, too xD Ironically they tend to be faster to make since they're just 1-2 panels, so I try to go more all out with it >:D
Mahotou
5. Favorite illustration? well i have one that got me rolling back into doing art after a huge time away from it. break-my-heart its pascal's face here (second to last panel) : http://www.galebound.com/comics/2592094/101/(edited)
my fave pics are very emotional i think
Sarai
that page also features Din angrily buttoning his waistcoat as he tries to glare his brother into silence XD
Mahotou
http://www.galebound.com/comics/2639011/115/ oh and o boy this one. the whole page.
RebelVampire
i counter your sadness with hilarious pascal http://www.galebound.com/comics/2484303/072-5/
Sarai
that one is great
Mahotou
6. How do you think Pascal will adjust to being both deaf and cut off from magic? I think, not being a Magician will be ok for Pascal. He may enjoy using magic or be good at it but he can only use it when commanded so I don't believe he'll feel totally lost without it. And maybe he can be sneaky and Queen Cymaria will attempt to command him because he's supposed to be a Court Magician but then he'd be liek nahh and she'd be surprised and TeamGrump can get the upperhand. O: but also now he has to have the amulet always with him too. He has to always be touching it or else he'll start dying again so i kinda feel like this physical object may be troublesome. (but i'm sure he'll be a smart cookie and thing of something to keep it in place.) How will he wind up helping or hurting Din and Conan? hmmm. well he's MORE of a free spirit now, as he's outside the Obligation. and he's always been a ninja (good climber --> (roof boy: http://www.galebound.com/comics/2358585/032/) so he can be helpful by going on errands. but heeeee wouldn't notice if he was being noisy... so he's losing stealth points. Deafness... he'll probably miss his hearing but I think he's a talented learner and will come up with hand signals between himself and friends/Din and also practice lip reading. @Rebel: He can chameleon into the crowd now and party all the parties. but he cant hear the music at the parties now D: i've just made myself really sad.... Ultimately, do you think Pascal’s life will be better or worse for what happened? Better because he won't have the Obligation around. ... or... or worse because he now has to have this amulet so now instead of the Obligation being a part of his life, he now has to care about this amulet for liek... the rest of his life. and he has be careful to always be touching it in some way. Maybe that's ok tho. and life will be fine and the brothers will just take care of each other.
woops that was a loaded #6.
i think i rambled but i won't edit this xD
keii4ii
@enshogirl 's listing of Artemis as #1 good does make me think, though (and I agree with the sentiment )
I like Artemis a lot, almost weirdly so, and I'm starting to see why
This is a story where you can't trust anyone -- I mean Pascal may be a good boy, but you might not be entirely safe around him. So having someone you can trust is meaningful, even if that someone isn't a human X'D
and that says a lot about the story truly being a web of schemes!
Jo Michelle
It's totally true. You really can't totally trust Magicians.....
But then, they can't even trust their own brains and motivations....
Respheal
That's a good point, @keii4ii I wish I enjoyed drawing Artemis more, because she is important to Conan as a character. She's the lodestar of stability and sanity for him in this quest into the unknown
......what are those reacts lol
I feel like you read that as me being like "it'd be a shame if something happened to her :3c"
Jo Michelle
Oh, no, I was thinking about Conan.
Respheal
Oh hahaha
Jo Michelle
How a horse is the only person he can find stability and relational safety in.
Kabocha
@Respheal don't you dare take that horse's boy away from her
Mahotou
XD Club "Keep Artemis Safe"
RebelVampire
QUESTION 7. Which characters do you enjoy seeing interact the most? What about their dynamic interests you?
QUESTION 8. What do you think Din’s ultimate plans are? Is it killing Felix or is there a bigger story to his ambitions? How does killing the Queen of Cymaria even factor into them? What even motivated his plans in the first place?
Jo Michelle
Character interaction dynamics. Hum. I mean, we've only really seen Din, Con, Pasc, and Alty. But, I've got to say, I really like the Din/Alty dynamics. They know things about Din, and the way they tell him what's what is good.
And the Din/Pasc. The way they care about each other as brothers, but also bicker about stuff. That's fun.
Basically, I think I really like character interactions that draw out Din's emotions and force him to say and do things that reveal what's going on inside.
. Speaking of. Din's plans. I mean, he's out to kill Felix for sure. That 16YO Din wasn't acting. That was seething rage there. But I think his end game is to bring down the system somehow.
But I don't know enough about it to really say how he might be going about that.
MJ Massey
Din and Pascal have an interesting dynamic I want to see more of, both in flashbacks and in the present day
like how did Pascal get involved in everything and trying to kill Conan? Are he and Din on good terms or no?
Sarai
Pascal with anyone quite fankly
Considering the characters that have been introduced, his nature of pure sunshine conflicts so hard with everyone we've seen him talk to
But he just.....keeps on going
Respheal
Pascal's fun to write interactions with because he's good at keeping people just a little off balance--he talks fast, hops between topics, and just his overall sunshine demeanor bewilders xD I like to think Conan and Din play off each other well.....in, uh, better circumstances, maybe.
RebelVampire
7) I'm gonna go with Alty and Conan. I like how their interactions always really emphasis Alty is basically just on Alty's side. Cause they arent remorseful for trying to kill Conan, and even imply a bit they can still drown Conan at anytime. Yet at the same time Alty is also the person willing to warn Conan that Din is basically a dumbass. So whenever they interact theres always this uneasiness. I think a lot may be a change in the power dynamic cause even if Conan can command Din, theres only so much you can do to stop the ocean. 8) Din's plans are basically Step 1- Kill Felix Step 2 - ??? Step 3-Profit. Which is my way of saying i think calling what Din's "plans" plans is misleading. Rather, I think he has goals and just vague ideas of how to get to those goals. Like a kid with a treasure map who is finding the X but forgot to bring a shovel or backpack to carry back the treasure. I agree that Din probably wants to bring balance to the system. But I also think in his crazed mind he thinks that killing Felix is the way its gonna happen. I think Din gives Felix waaaaay too much credit. Although, honestly, I can't figure why he needs to kill the Queen. Like certainly this frees him from needing to be a court magician there. But unless theres a secret command from them that says "nah bro don't kill felix" i dont see how overthrowing a monarch works in Din's favor at all.
Mahotou
7.
@jo: And the Din/Pasc. The way they care about each other as brothers, but also bicker about stuff. That's fun.
Basically, I think I really like character inte
ractions that draw out Din's emotions and force him to say and do things that reveal what's going on inside. yasss 8. Din seems like a focus one track person. He wants to kill Felix. and he's still trying to reach that even tho Cymaria has him doing other magician errands first. But sounds like he almost got the command he wanted: "Bring me the head of Evenheim's heir" http://www.galebound.com/comics/2764870/145/ but he found Conan before Felix? maybe he thinks he can work with conan to convince/trick conan into giving him commands he wants.
Kabocha
7. Which characters do you enjoy seeing interact the most? What about their dynamic interests you? Din and Conan, honestly. I got friggin BAMBOOZLED when I started reading this. I was like, "hey they're staying in an inn, some shenanigans are gonna ensue!" AND THEN NOPE, MURDER ATTEMPT. So, what I thought was gonna be a fantasy buddy comedy turned out to be very much not that. And I kind of look forward to seeing how Din and Conan progress from snarky strangers to friends... Assuming Din doesn't get killed first.
8. What do you think Din’s ultimate plans are? Is it killing Felix or is there a bigger story to his ambitions? How does killing the Queen of Cymaria even factor into them? What even motivated his plans in the first place?
Din has a plan? Ever since Conan figured out he was able to command Din, it's kinda gone to shit, so... I think Din's ultimate plan was probably to kill the Cymarian nobility AND to kill Felix. http://www.galebound.com/comics/2332038/022/ Although I guess Conan didn't tell Din to tell him the truth, so... Din's a very angry man, probably motivated by the inherent injustice in the obligation. I think if he could have anything in life right now, it would be that he could be a normal person. He got the slightest taste of normalcy as a child, and... Well. :\
anyway I just need to say @Respheal how dare you bring us in thinking comedy and break us all like this so far
Respheal
>:D
RebelVampire
QUESTION 9. What sorts of art or story details have you noticed in the way the comic is crafted that you think deserves attention?
QUESTION 10. Who or what is the Arcein that Conan saw? Why do you think she seemed to know Felix, and how did Arcein’s Ignorance come to be? Also, what do you think Myosotis is, and why does Arcein want it?
Jo Michelle
Q. 9: Res's foreshadowing is really great. Little details that you only notice on reread. And snatches of dialogue or character actions that suddenly are WAY different when you know what's really going on.
RebelVampire
9) The careful choices in wording because command phrases are super OP. Like I would super hate writing a main cast who are a nobleman and a magician cause one ill choice of dialogue and poof, there goes continuity. So the fact its done so well is nice. 10) I'm assuming the Arcein we saw was basically a Horcrux. I assume by the nature of being mythical, Arcein is connected to the Gale in ways we don't understand. And the Gale is like big brother and is watching everyone, especially Felix. Idk what Myosotis is, but I'm sure Arcein wants it to destroy all nobleman or something like that. If Arcein isn't the pure evil one in this comic, I will eat my hat.
Respheal
But she was so helpful in saving Pascal~ :'3
RebelVampire
for now
unless pascal is locked away in a tower guarded 24/7 but the most elite soldiers, i will never believe Pascal is completely and truly safe in that world
Jo Michelle
But that's not safety. that's isolation, which isn't safe or healthy for any human.
There is no "complete and true safety." Life is risk.
RebelVampire
well put artemis in the tower too
then they can be alone together
and safe
also i said safe, i wasnt necessarily aiming for healthy there O_O
Jo Michelle
But unhealthy isn't safe.
And humans need more relationships in our lives than just one other creature.
And relationship always brings risk.
Respheal
also the alleged horcrux is strapped to his neck
Jo Michelle
I mean, there's risk.... and then there's..... risk.
that dang price
RebelVampire
i feel like you just insulted artemis by called her a risk as a relationship
secretly artemis had like 10 sugar daddy horses back home and spent all their money
conan is also her sugar daddy
literally cause he probably gives her sugar cubes
also see, to deal with arcein you just gotta cut the tower off from the gale. make a huge bubble area of ignorance
Mahotou
9) I totally understand why Res insisted on using full color. those auras need to be noticeable and different from each other. And its really niceeeee. I love the use of double-spreads because to me it feels like the stretching of a moment aka time slows down and you can just take in the scene. <3 Also the "scene in the amulet" is really creepy and spooky and what does it all mean!? /o\ after all this time, i feel we should expect foreshadowing in almost everything. xD 10) Arcein isssss 300 years old according to Pascal so the amulet is.... HAUNTED [or Rebel's Horcrux theory]. Maybe Felix had the amulet before and maybe they spoke together/concocted a plan together. Or maybe they disagreed? I have NO idea what Myosotis is in her context. Googling it, its a forget-me-not sooooo i guess she wants to be remembered? big shrug she seems dangerous. just look at her grin.(edited)
Respheal
nyahahahaha >:D
There is a whole lot of foreshadowing, and I appreciate what Jo said about "details you only notice on reread" xD Because a lot of the foreshadowing, I'm aiming it to be like it was staring us in the face the whole tiiiiiiiiiiiiiime
Jo Michelle
That's the best kind.
Other than the Horcrux thing, I have about zero formed ideas or theories on Arcein myself. That's a whole giant ominous question mark in my mind.
Mahotou
And also the amulet is called Arcein's Ignorance. I believe it was named for how it disconnects an Obligated from The Gale (and thus be Ignorant of the commands) but... Was Arcein Ignorant about something too? I wouldn't put it past Res for double meanings. Did Arcein do something Ignorant by making this amulet?
Kabocha
People are ignorant of Arcein, therefore her price of "Forget-Me-Not" is... to make her known? Remembered? avenged?
Sarai
((Forget-me-nots also mean true love, so make of that what you will))
Jo Michelle
What if the amulet was made by a Magician and a Noble who loved each other, and wanted a way to have a relationship that was free from Obligations?
Kabocha
oh That... that could have happened in this world...
Mahotou
i like that sound O:
Sarai
As far as what the "price" is, maybe Arcien's broken the seal that's locked away conan's memories?
Not so that they'll come back all at once, but she's triggered a sort of chain reaction so that very soon, he's gonna start remembering things
RebelVampire
QUESTION 11. What do you think are this particular comic’s strengths? What do you think makes this comic unique? Please elaborate.
QUESTION 12. Where has Felix been for most of Conan’s life? Why do you think he left Conan, and will Conan and Din actually be able to find him? Assuming they do find him, what do you think would even happen?
Sarai
Before I leave for vacation: 11. Worldbuilding is definitely one of Galebound's strengths. The decision to make this a tidally locked planet (and actually develop how that would impact and affect all facets of life) was a really good one, and it really adds a unique flavor to the story. From the color pallete of the outdoor scenes to the inclusion of the dark hour to the plot, it was enough to catch my eye and make me want to know more my first time reading. -bows to Res-
Respheal
:'D
will Conan and Din actually be able to find him
It's also a question of if half of that set even wants to find him
Jo Michelle
Con: he's my dad and I don't care. Din: He's my No. 1 target.
Kabocha
Galebound's strengths... Well, the sheer growth it's had from its start. Both in art and storytelling... While I know the story was prepping for its first WHAM moment, the art really caught up with it in a way that helped amplify that imo. Res has improved an incredible amount in a comparatively short amount of time
...I'm absolutely terrified to see how much the art will grow in 5 years, especially as the story intensifies. I get the feelin' a storm's brewing... And it's not the Gale.
RebelVampire
QUESTION 13. What are you most looking forward to in the comic? Also, do you have any final thoughts to share overall?
QUESTION 14. What aspect of the Obligation system in the story do you find the most interesting? What about it specifically interests you? Alternatively, what horrible implications are you hoping to see or not see regarding it?
RebelVampire
11) I think the strengths lie in the question and answer formula. While there are a lot of comics out there, in my experience not all of them offer good material for theorizing. Which isn't necessarily a bad thing, but can make for dull convos when talking about the comic elsewhere. Meanwhile, Galebound has tons of questions, tons of info spread out in various places, etc. So you get to get out the magnifying glass and look around for the answer. 12) I sincerely believe Felix left for Conan's own good to help him with something. Not that I think Felix is altruistically out to save the world or anything for sure, but I do think Felix would want to save his son. As for whether Conan and Din finding, honestly, I think it's more likely Felix will find them first XD We've established Din isn't great at the plans so Din is gonna bump into Felix when he least expects it. And be like "I'm in my underwear right now I'm not even ready for this."
keii4ii
13/14 I'm looking forward to meeting that one character SPOILER who is both a Noble and a magician, aka Person Doomed To Juggle Chainsaws For Life END SPOILER
RebelVampire
13) I am looking forward to people reading the next chapter so the galebound fandom collective can gasp in the same way that patrons get to gasp. 14) my favorite aspect of the obligation system is just the fact that it plays on language and contains loopholes. so you can constantly find new ways to use and abuse it based on how something is worded or how far you push the system. cause that gives it a good balance of being powerful but still being bounded by consistent rules.
Respheal
Oh yeah, the next chapter's gonna be all sorts of fun xD(edited)
Kabocha
The obligation system is certainly easily manipulated for anyone who might be looking For loopholes. Din is dangerous because he was taught to think >:D
RebelVampire
"Din is dangerous" is a complete sentence.
Kabocha
FAIR.
For every time Din subverts an obligation's expectations, he also manages to hurt someone he cares about.
RebelVampire
good job, din. this is why everyone loves you.
Jo Michelle
Mostly to himself and to people who care about him, I think.(edited)
Kabocha
Today I learned: Everyone in Din's life is a masochist(edited)
Respheal
For putting up with him?
Kabocha
Yeeeeeeeep.
Respheal
I almost feel like I need to come to his defense now
I certainly don't condone his actions, but......boy needs an adult
And by adult I mean therapist
Kabocha
He won't get better if nobody gives him good consequences
At the very least, the Ocean could have been like, "Oh hey, KNOCK IT OFF" and smacked him
RebelVampire
tbf even with good consequences theres no gurantee.
Kabocha
Fair! I mean, let's imagine the Galebound discord is right, and Lenora (the King's Magician) had a chance to try to set Din right. ...if he's still after his goal of revenge after some grade-A mom-ish intervention, he's not gonna be easily deterred.
And now I'm imagining Din... "My name is Dinigo Montoya... You killed my father. Prepare to die." (Only we can't be sure if Din's father died at Felix's hands....)
RebelVampire
these are excellent points.
to change din, i think he needs to wake up many days in a row and find out his entire life is a lie
Respheal
He lies to everyone else, but doesn't realize he lies to himself, too
Kabocha
I wonder how many lies we'll discover he's told himself over the years.
It's gonna suck! Din had all these good things he threw away in pursuit of revenge... He really can't figure out how to appreciate the things in front of him until they're taken from him.
RebelVampire
the biggest lie he told himself was that his name was din. really he was felix all along
Respheal
That's some next level self-hatred there
Kabocha
Oh no... So, if Din is Felix...
Respheal
I'm assuming he's also actually ten years older
Kabocha
.... ... That makes him ineligible to be the Shadowlord, sadly...
Respheal
Because otherwise.....eek
Oh?
Kabocha
Felix is the creator of the Shadowlord.
Not the Shadowlord itself.
Sarai
13) What am I looking forward to? The answer to all of these questions really XD
There's so much we don't know, and I'm really looking forward to snapping up all the information about the plot and its mysteries as it trickles in
also clawing the tragic backstories out of everyone's cold dead hands
Mahotou
13) I saw a list of character names and chapter names. I"m excited to meet EVERYONE. Get to fall in love with some and get to violently LOATH some. some sweet sweet hatred on fictional character. I agree with Rebel: Meanwhile, Galebound has tons of questions, tons of info spread out in various places, etc. So you get to get out the magnifying glass and look around for the answer. Sweet mind games and investigation. THERES SO MUCH DEPTH I CAN SWIM IN THIS LORE FOREVER. xD
14) Aspects of the Obligation system? Din's sweet mindbending/word-twisting comprehension ability of commands he received. How far can it go? How far DID it go in his loophole finding ability? But also, what can they achieve together? Conan and Din. If they can work together then there's SO MUCH possibility!
Respheal
Hehehehe I've got all the chapter names (and a lot of the character names) in the wiki :3c They are subject to change until they're actually written (I've already merged a couple chapters together), but I like having those up as sort of a teaser(edited)
As with many things, I didn't really realize I was setting up sort of a question/answer format until I got some momentum going, but I really enjoy how that's worked out xD
Mahotou
(They tease me hard)
Respheal
I am looking for a gif to use as my answer to 13 xD But no such luck
So meh I'll just go with chapters: Ch 6, Ch 14, Ch 18 Those have some of the major turning points I'm most looking forward to :3c
And for question 14.....probably one of the more interesting things, from my perspective, is how the system came into being in the first place
-runs back into the spoiler cave-
Mahotou
LORE/ORIGIN STORY
:partypascal:
Sarai
14) the thing I like about the system is how simple it seems, yet how absolutely bone-chillingly horrible it is when you give it a little thought
It really is a wolf in sheep's clothing
Sarai
Like, when it was first introduced my first thought was "wow this is really constricting and an awful lot of angst over a magic system that can't be used that much"
But those implications hit you like a narrative 2 by 4
Respheal
If I manage to get the book published, that's the sorta quote I want on the dust jacket
RebelVampire
Actually I change my answer
I'm most looking forward to Felix
so we can learn hes not awful
RebelVampire
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