Critique Feedback Form - Representing the Real
PROJECT: Â Finding Punk (Group 14)
DATE OF CRITIQUE: 27th April 2022
TUTOR(S): Sana Bilgrami, Joe Li, Tomas Sheridan, Leo D'Andrea
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VERBATIM Â TRANSCRIPT OF FEEDBACK:
TS: âI actually thought that, I mean jokes aside, I  thought that reduces quality was quite punk. I almost wanted to see this shot  on 16mm or something, like some grainy old film or something, yeah. One thing  that really jumps out at me is how well you understood your character in your  production, how well you researched what the story was because you⌠itâs  quite rare even for professionals and I feel like you delivered exactly the  film you said you were gonna make, in terms of his place inside a community, the  feeling of like these older people that can be his friends and finding punk  you know sort of⌠even though he doesnât spell it out, but how punk you know,  saved his life sort of thing or made, you know, created the social circle for  him. It all comes across, so I think thatâs quite a good example of show  donât tell, even though itâs shown with other words, but itâs like without  explaining it literally, got that. So, I really like that. Yeah, I liked in  terms of the cinematography, I like that there was a variety of shots again  in terms of building scenes those close ups, when heâs like gonna play the bass  in the rehearsal space and again, I think, like doing multiple short  interviews is not only good to give you that variety of shots, to cut between  it also focuses your mind because you might not be that experienced in terms  of interviews so the fact that you had at least two interviews, maybe three where  it just felt like every I interview was getting better and better and like  you were going away and looking at what you got, understanding him better and  going back for asking questions with him for more focused, more focused  attention. I love⌠thereâs some things he said that were just like, just good  character chat but itâs also to your credits that you didnât make the  interview too dry and so he could go off explaining to you, you know âpunk is  chocolateâ or when heâs like talking about the past and the future living in  the present. It really sounds⌠it sounds a bit clichĂŠ, but it sounds like  heâs like developing through this music style. So, I just thought all of  these things came together nicely, and then I appreciated⌠so in terms of the  music, obviously itâs a film thatâs centred on the music. I like that you  didnât overdo it and that the music is sort of present when itâs useful, like  with the vinyl or with them playing. And I also appreciated what I think Leo  suggested to another group, which was like fading in and out of the music -  so not having the music when weâre talking and then having it fade in and  then fade out with the same visuals. So that⌠I mean these are small  technical things that if you know them you know them, and if you donât you  donât. But itâs just, you know, it just tied it together quite nicely. And  you know the levels were there and all. I think the last two films were proof  that itâs not the systems fault, but you know, the levels have been achieved.  Yeah, sorry, lots of padding, lots of praise. I think, I think it really  worked.â
SB: âI really enjoyed the film as well, what a great  character. Yep, great character. Iâm going to give you a bit of criticism. So,  I, you know, go along with all of Tommyâs appreciative comments. But yes, so,  your opening sequence, you know you start, he puts the record on, you could  have just blasted that music and not have him speak for the first⌠and you  have this really nice sequence of showing us bits of just shots from his  music collection or flat or something, you know there are these close-upâs, right?  You know what Iâm talking about? He should just start speaking after that. So,  if you could change that, that would be great. It would be a much more  powerful opening because punk is loud, punk canât be soft and, in the  background, okay? And especially when youâre putting it on, you are literally  playing the record. So, I would change that whole thing. And we donât need to  hear the names of his band members. I mean it didnât increase my  understanding of this guyâs character or anything. So, you know that, yeah  you could remove that, then that gives you a bit of space for the music. I  really enjoyed it. Nice⌠I really like your transition from the inside of the  flat, you go out as if you just show us that youâre going to a different  location. So thatâs nice visual storytelling. I like the guitar shots, the  close-ups when heâs tuning in. But my overall, biggest critique is we need,  again like with a lot of the other films, some space between the words. He  speaks pretty much non-stop throughout from beginning to end and it would be  really nice to let the film breath and just take in some of what he says. So  that was the other big one. And right at the, end the concert, so you show us  a tiny bit and then you fade out to speaking again and then go back with the  music high up, and I just wondered if you could just remove the speaking part  or put that bit of voiceover somewhere else so that we are actually immersed  in the concert at the end, because again, I really wanted to be immersed in  that concert. And actually, thatâs where I see the relationship between him  and the older folk in his band. So, you know, I think just letting up kind of  experience him on stage would have been really good. But otherwise, yeah, I  really enjoyed it.â
JL: âMy feeling is the same, really enjoyed the film,  and I think the production quality is also really good. I like particularly  the way there is no intervention from the filmmakers from you. You stay  behind the camera, and you just let your character speak, and I think that  his narration really sort of engages the audience. We get to know his  personality, his passion, his love, what he likes to do. And this film  appears to be particularly effective in this way, I donât know what happened.  Maybe itâs not only the problem of the filmmakers, it also depends on the  interviewee, like the mural artist, just so calm, but he appeared to be so  energetic, so friendly. So sometimes it also depends on the characters in the  film. I was thinking, if thereâs any other worries at all itâs more about, do  we get we get to know a little bit about his family, like does he have a  partner? Is married? Has kids? Itâs only five minutes, I donât think you need  to do any interviews or whatever, but in order to give us a more rounded  character you might also want to know that a little bit. Because heâs so much  into art, thatâs his chocolate, thatâs his passion, but what about his  partner, his kids? I mean just a little bit about that maybe.â
Saoirse: âNo he doesnât, heâs only 25.â
SB: âOh, he made it sound like heâs 30 because he said  âtheyâre going to be 90â (when talking about being friends with people â3x  his ageâ)â
TS: âBut I think thatâs what drew you to him, that he  was 25 and hanging out with 30/40-year-old musicians â that was sort of the  crisis for you?â
JL: âI wanted to add on, I liked the cinematography, Â like the editing, I like the sound â I think itâs really well done. So yeah, Â maybe, Leo do you want to add anything?â
LD: âYeah, mostly, I just echo what Sana said, itâs  well made, you definitely have a very interesting subject. Like, you  definitely want to use some of the interviews, like the bit about the cheese  and chocolate - itâs so funny. But also yeah, it would be, that final bit  when you just let the music come in and you have the archive edited to the rhythm  of the music, thatâs brilliant, I just wish you had applied that thought  process to the entire film. So just having some moments when you just let the  music, you know, be really loud. I totally agree with Sana, like that opening  scene where the music starts playing and you have the title card, really  good, and then you fade it immediately to go back to the interview, like you  could have let us enjoy it for a little bit more, just get into the spirit of  the film. Yeah, mostly itâs about just hitting the right balance of  observational footage, so to speak, and interview but also understanding when  you want to intercut that and when you want to separate them, like  compartmentalise them, so that when he speaks as understand what heâs saying,  you know, all the funny stuff about chocolate and cheese, and then when we  watch him do what he loves, doing that, they we just enjoy that. But yeah,  other than that definitely good idea. Great.â
 MAIN POINTS GLEANED  FROM FEEDBACK:
Breathing space is required between words/Darren speaking
Reduced quality adds to our narrative and makes the film more âpunkâ
We made the film we said we were going to make
Music needs to be more present/we should only hear the music at certain points
Our interviews were well constructed
Could have looked to his relationship with others more (family etc.)
Our characters personality comes across well in our film
Upon reflection Iâm really happy with the final outcome of our film. As I said during the crit, I think the film could have been improved by including more footage of Darren interacting with the older members of the punk community that he talks about and that would have strengthened our narrative. I agree that there needs to be breathing space between the dialogue, although I feel this represents how Darren speaks, I realise that this can be a bit too much for audiences and time needs to be taken to digest information. I think ultimately my relationship with Darren and the way the interviews were constructed gave us interview material that represented him well. Due to time constraints and difficulty as I was the only one communicating with Darren in the group, we were only able to get a certain amount of footage and more would have helped Euan out in the edit, as well as more time. I was part of the process from start to finish at all stages and I feel that most of responsibility was left to me in organising the film, where more of a group effort could have been made and this affected our film during production. I was in constant contact with Darren but as he had other things going on or would often cancel the day before/day of shooting, it made our shooting schedule very tight. Overall, Iâm happy with how it looks and I agree with lecturers that we delivered the film we said we were going to make.
In a re-visit to the edit I would like to include more footage if possible of Darren with other members of the punk scene. Iâd also fix the issues with breathing space between dialogue and make sure the music is heard for a longer period of time over cutaways before we hear Darren speak again. In future projects Iâd be more organised with a shooting schedule to make sure we have as much footage as possible to help the editor out in post production. I would also like to spend more time with the editor/sound designer during this process if I am to direct again, as I was only able give feedback in the form of written notes in a short space of time, and I would have liked to have been there to help with assembly. This again is due to timing/organisational issues - if these are rectified during production I will have more time to offer help during post-production.