CarmenRider And The Art Of Hypothetics
"Come on Ephrom, another post about CarmenRider! Why do you keep making these?"
For views and money of course, and no other reason.
What? I figured since CarmenRider is such a big fan of Just A Robot, I might as well take a joke from one of his videos to explain why I keep making these posts. For those curious, it was a joke I took from this video:
But seriously, I decided to write another post on this situation because there have been some updates that I feel are worth talking about. If you want to know the origin of the situation, I would recommend reading this post before continuing forward:
I admit, I had to watch this video a couple of times in order to understand what Septy's crimes are. Best as I can tell, Septy said spur of
If must have been a good post, because Septy shared it on Twitter.
First off, the conversation I had in the comments of the CarmenRider's video continued. Specifically, JustTubeStuff decided to reply to one of my comments and wrote the following
I want to make it very clear that I do believe that Septy crossed a line, but I do not think Septy threatened to dox CarmenRider. All Septy said was that they hypothetically could have--and would have had they been the terrible person Carmen makes them out to be--and the comment flew totally over Carmen's head. Mind you, I don't even blame her considering she never saw the comment, she just saw Redd Gier telling her that Septy threatened to dox her. Again, no screenshot of what Septy said even exists because it was deleted so fast. (As somebody with both anger issues and an anxiety issue, I recognize that as a sign that somebody said something they want to take back or think could easily be taken the wrong way. You can say many things about Septy, but they are not one to double down on bad actions nor badly predict how their words will be heard.)
Still, I would say this is part of the pattern of Carmen mindlessly believing anything about the people she doesn't like, something she has done for so long I even mentioned it in my first post on the subject of her:
It should go without saying that I was against Septy flagging Carmen (and Septy has since retracted the strike request)--I believe Carmen's
This post, I should note, was also shared by Septy on Twitter, so take that endorsement as you will:
Meanwhile, Septy uploaded a call with CallMeNil on their channel where the two talked about the situation:
In the video, Septy confirms basically what I assumed since the beginning. In a moment of anger, Septy said they could do something they had no intent of doing and quickly took it bad. Anybody who read my post the day before already figured this out--fuck, I'd argue that anybody who put so much as ten seconds of thought into this situation could have guessed that--but there's something else I want to point. If Carmen and her fans want to play of game of pointing to a hypothetical and using that as evidence that the person wants to do the thing they mentioned--or even that's an issue that Septy even considered this in the first (quite literally accusing them of a thought crime)--then I wish to remind everybody Carmen began her year with this hypothetical:
For those unaware, this is something Carmen said in a conversation with Mushroom Girl after the two had a back and fourth over the YouTuber Sensitive Society. If you want to know more about that, Neko Koda made a video on this topic, which can be viewed here:
Mushroom Girl--who was fourteen at the time--asked Carmen why she liked Lolicon, and Carmen said this.
Carmen tells the full story in this video:
I should also note, as Bummer Patrol pointed out on Twitter, this is an utterly nonsensical excuse:
I should also note, I do not believe that Carmen is a pedophile because of this comment. But somebody could easily come to that conclusion, as many people have. Is Carmen merely thinking about turning a fourteen year old into a "human fleshlight" (which she was somehow going to do over the internet--I should note) an issue on its own? I mean, one could easily make that case, but I would assume that it would more be a case of hyperbolic language as opposed to actual attraction.
I mean, we know some people came to that conclusion because that screenshot was used in a document which specifically called CarmenRider a pedophile because of that and many other comments:
The Carmen Rider Doc TW: Pedophilia, Racism, LGBTQ+ Phobia, Toxic Behavior, and Child Porn Table of Contents Preface/Intr
So is Carmen a pedophile? I don't believe so, but I honestly think it's worth mentioning just how hypocritical Carmen has to be in order to believe that at this point.













