Got to the whole âRepublic secret super-soldier projectâ in and Oh I could ramble on about the implications of THAT! But as soon as the General told me about a project so secret it had no oversight, just a pile of money and a desired end? I was thinking âwelp, no way thatâs gonna go wrong.â You donât need the Force or a Jedi Masterâs Wisdom to know that is a BAD IDEA!
Refugees being used as test subjects was not the first thing I thought of for Ways To Go Wrong but unsurprising.
The recruiter saying they were all volunteers? That they were willing?!? I need a dialogue option to cry bs or at least disparage his definition of âconsentâ. Damnit swtor thatâs not how it works and you know it!
Those refugees did not consent to this. Maybe recruiter dude was straight up lying to PCâs face. Maybe the folks were âwillingâ in the same way recruited teens for the US military are âwillingâ (i.e. no fucking clue what theyâre signing up for cause recruiters are lying liars who lie). Maybe a combination of the above? But donât tell me every single refugee was giving full and informed consent to be guinea pigs for an experimental super soldier project!!!
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If you're arguing Jedi are cold and emotionless and/or are elites and steal children...where are you getting those arguments? Where specifically are you getting the words cold, emotionless, elites and child-stealer? Which arguments do those come from? And why are you using those specific arguments to justify a genocide?
Yes the Jedi are fictional. But arguing that a Jewish-coded religious group is âelitistâ and/or child-stealers has a long history of real-world antisemitism. Christians have long spread and believed the lie that âJewish people steal childrenâ and have used it to justify all manner of atrocities from murder and dismemberment of young women to torture to multiple genocides! The use of âelitesâ is a buzzword for antisemitism, the belief that Jewish people are the architects of our exploitive society.
Yes the Jedi are fictional, but arguing that an East-Asian coded culture is cold and emotionless has a long history of real world racism. The white western world has long used such a stereotype â along with the idea that our emotions (or at least expressing them in white western stereotypical ways) are what makes us human â as a way of justifying all manner of atrocities and exploitation.
If you want to dig into Shmiâs decision to give Qui Gon Jinn and Anakin himself permission to get Jedi training? Sure! We can do that!Or George Lucasâ creative decision of âJedi training has to start very youngâ. I've got some beef there too. You wanna dig into the stereotypes of stoicism, especially as a masculine norm and its harmful effects? Sure, Iâm up for some good ole toxic masculinity criticism.
But if youâre regurgitating the arguments real-life fascists have used to justify real-life genocide? STOP! Examine your internalization of these anti-Asian and antisemitic arguments. Why are you making these arguments? What do you want the other person to realize and why?
Obviously if you are arguing that genocide is right then stfu and gtfo
Finished watching The Untamed and have to rant about it, especially to anyone tired of GRRM taking forever to finish the Winds of Winter or burned out after season eight. The Untamed /Grandmaster of Demonic Cultivation has all joys of GoM/ASOIAF (fight scenes, back-stabbing, political drama, an overwhelming evil that threatens the world, medievalism inspired by history, fantasy, character deconstructions, incest, zombies, tragedy âŠokay it doesnât have dragons per se but it does have a dragon turtle) It also straight up does everything better. Everything:
The Opening: Much like Indiana Jones movies are praised for having more action in the first five minutes than most action movies have in two hours, this opens up right in the middle of the most climatic, action-packed and heart-breaking scene of the whole show. Then the show jumps back and forth, leading up to the inevitable and then shows where you go from there. So, we start out with an inevitable horror â this person WILL die, that person WILL betray, etc. that not only canât be prevented but that everyone is inevitably spiraling towards. At the same time, it opens in the middle so weâve got the tension of âwhat will come in the aftermath of thisâ. Best of both.
Villains: Weâve got both the intrinsically evil and otherworldly threat and the very human people who have chosen evil. But unlike ASOIAF, thereâs an interplay between the two in The Untamed. The Others are fundamentally outsiders with Caster alone assisting them by making sacrifices. Meanwhile in The Untamed, said intrinsic and otherworldly evil is very much intertwined with BOTH the villains AND the heroes. Itâs power most covet and brings out their worst traits, it is a force our protagonist must struggle with both inwardly and outwardly.
Characterization: Everyone! Xichen WISHES he had his head chopped off like Ned Stark. Wei Wuxian shows even rapidly moving waters can run deep (and hey if you wanna see someone get literally, repeatedly damned for doing the right thingâŠ). Madame Yu is like Catalyn Stark if the latter was badass and went out like a boss (and also despite everything gave half a damn about Jon Snow). Jiang Cheng is a contradictory fit whose relationship with Wei Wuxian makes Jon Snow and Robb Starkâs relationship bland as store-bought white bread. I see your Robb Stark and Theon Greyjoy and raise you Xichen and Meng Yao. In general MXTXâs characters are deeper, richer, more real and satisfying than GRRMâs.
Fantasy: This is a Xanxia fantasy so thereâs a lot more overt magic â not just magical creatures but most of the protagonists and antagonists have magic. And magic swords! Personalized magic swords almost like a blend of Valyrian Steel and lightsabers except these swords allow the wielder to fly so as much as I love my glowy swoosh swords these ones might win out on cool points.
Historical: ⊠from what I've been told Xanxia fantasies are typically set in the real world so The Untamed is set in our China â just our China if cultivation were a real way to obtain magic and immortality. So, thereâs A LOT of references to real historical medieval stuff here. And a lot of medieval horror. You got your punishments, including some augmented by magic. You've got torture, entire sects being wiped out and the horror of bride ghosts.
Backstabbery: Thinking back on it Game of Thrones/ASOIAF, for all that itâs a sack of backstabbing weasels, doesnât have a lot of really wrenching betrayal. The closest is probably Theon going back to daddy instead of staying with his Robb, but even then that's a valid allegiance for him. Littlefinger has no reason beyond money to support Ned, we get little hints of familial betrayal (Ramsey murdering his brother) but nothing like The Untamed which has some horrible betrayals. I mean people who have been best friends/sworn blood oaths/etc. backstabbing. If MXTX wrote GoT Robert Baratheon wouldâve been the one cutting Nedâs head off (which, honestly thatâd have been more interesting).
It's a crying shame Game of Thrones/ASOIAF is more popular and it really shouldnât be. Best of all The Untamed its free (on Viki) đ
