#ph talk

Hello! :) I’m assuming you are talking about the sorting thing that I did, right? (Since that is the only, recent, post I’ve made about Vincent). I’m gong to go off that assumption and therefore incorporated talk about Vincent and why I did, in the end, decide to put him into Hufflepuff House (and why I agreed with another poster about Vincent and his connection to loyalty and it having nothing to do with personal gain).

I agree with you (as a huge fan of Vincent myself) that Vincent is rather selfish and cowardly, though, I don’t think that takes away from the fact that Vincent  values loyalty. I also think that there is a difference between selfishness and personal gain, you can be selfish without necessarily getting any personal gain from an action. Vincent was selfish in his desire to make Gil happy and he was selfish in his desire to make sure Ada found happiness, but both of these actions would not have amounted to Vincent necessarily getting any personal gain from the results. He would (and did, in the case of Ada) get what he wanted, but those actions wouldn’t necessarily lead to any type of personal gain for Vincent himself (which was the whole point). The individual who brought up that Vincent wasn’t motivated by personal gain was right, he was motivated by a selfish loyalty, but not by actions that would necessarily provide him with personal gain, since he, himself, did not want that. 

To go more in-depth into why I did decide on Hufflepuff House for Vincent and for his main value to be loyalty, please check out the Read More below.

Hello! :) Sorry I took forever and a day to respond to this! 

As for your questions, I believe the contracts all remained. Sharon’s growth was described as being a ‘miracle,’ so I assume she was still contracted to/with Equus, which was why everyone was so shocked that she started aging again. I would imagine, now that the Baskerville Household has kinda been put back together (and they have worked out a system to help control the Core of the Abyss with her loneliness) that all responsibilities and items related to the Abyss (the Doors included) went back to belonging to the Baskerville Household. I would believe that the death of a Contractor (whether natural or not, whether a Baskerville or not) would lead to the Chain ending the contract, though I don’t know about the Chain dying. I think that could be up to fan interpretation.

This is rather difficult, especially because it has been a while since I’ve read the series and a lot of the PH characters can fit into multiple Hogwarts Houses I believe, but let’s see…Gryffindor:

- Oz

- Alice

- Elliot

- Fang

- Oscar

- Shelly 

Ravenclaw:

- Oswald

- Leo

- Levi 

- Break

- Lacie

- Isla Yura  

- Echo

- Sharon

- Sheryl

Hufflepuff:

- Gil

- Ada

- Lily

- Doug

- Lotty

- Arthur Barma

- Noise

- Vincent

Slytherin:

- Zai

- Jack 

- Rufus

- Miranda Barma

- Vincent (though, a part of me thinks that he is a Hufflepuff)

Hello! :) Don’t worry, you aren’t being annoying! It’s been such a long time since I really discussed PH, so I had to do some digging to try and find my thoughts on the whole Christ Figure thing.

I wrote a lot about it for my Thoughts Post for Retrace 89. I talked about it some in my Thoughts Post for Retrace 100. And I’ll add a little bit here:

Oz is a “child” of “god” (aka The Will of the Abyss) and he is given Human Form (Cheshire has a human form too, but his mind is more a mix of a cat and human, while Oz has a very human like mindset). 

I also think there may have been quite a few words used throughout the series that held Christian or Biblical Connotations, though I can’t track them all down. The major one though was Mochizuki-sensei’s use of 救い(すくい) (sukui) in reference to “the light” and Oz (who “the light” often times represented). It can mean “help,” but it tends to mean “help” in the way of “salvation” and is used in terms of wanting to help people/save people from hunger or poverty or something along those lines. It is the term that is used in the bible when referencing to things like Jesus being humanity’s salvation and such. Jesus is often times connected to being seen as the light and hope, just as Oz is. There is also the fact that Mochizuki-sensei chose to use the term 罪（つみ）(tsumi) when talking about the “crimes” that the characters have committed. She could have used the term 犯罪（はんざい）(hanzai), which just straight up means a “crime” or “offence,” but she used tsumi instead, which carries the connotation of “sin.” 

I even think one of the names of the retraces may have had a Biblical connection too, but I can’t really remember off hand. 

Alice, you poor girl, you had really shitty parents.

It’s been on my mind recently, I like Lacie (she’s among my favorites) and Levi, but what they did to their daughter(s) was really terrible, and the fandom’s fondness of portraying happy au families / them as being really loving kind of rubs me the wrong way.

I won’t say that Lacie and Levi didn’t care about Alice at all, but, I really mean that as at all, 0%.  They are still a long, long way from loving parents -

For them, Alice is, first and foremost, a tool, a means to an end.  An experiment; a new friend (toy) for the abyss.  And just for that, they easily put their daughter(s) in an incredibly dangerous/unstable/harsh/lonely position.  And, if you think about it, those girls led crap lives, barely being able to experience life.  Alice killed herself to save her most precious friend - her favorite toy.  Not to mention all the crap white Alice had to put with, never even being able to leave the Abyss and being pressed to the brink both physically and mentally.  

It’s utterly terrible what they put the Alices through, and it entirely precludes them from ever being called “good parents” in my book.  Like, Xai is better?  He at least gave enough craps about his son to go on a roaring rampage of revenge, and gave up his life for his daughter?  Lacie is, having children in the abyss would be good!, Levi is, Jack, you’re free to use her~.  

Ugh, those girls deserve so much better.  

I don’t hate Lacie and Levi as people; only as parents.  And I get why, at least, Levi did it.  And I know that asking unluckiness surrounded Baskervilles to understand what a loving parent should be like to is unreasonable.