#passingeternity

I may have made a bit of a big deal over the conversation that's missing from the wiki, but really, all three of these interactions are similar enough that I think I can tackle them all together as one big lump.

Clearly, Razzle is a very big fan of Vee and her game show, being pretty starstruck in the conversation that he initiates. And even though her productions have had to be reduced to much smaller-scale trivia nights since the shutdown (as mentioned in one of Vee's conversations with Goob), he's still a massive fan!

That may also be why Razzle refers to it as a "gameshow thing" in their letter to her. If it's something he wrote post-shutdown, then what she does now isn't same as her old game shows, so he's just. Not too sure how to refer to it anymore!

Regardless, Razzle very very much wants to be part of one of those productions, be it in the spotlight as a contestant, or in the shadows helping out backstage (which perhaps is what Dazzle may prefer?). But he also seems to perhaps be a little nervous about... 'Overstepping his bounds' with Vee, opting to send her letters expressing his love for her work rather than just talking to her like they would anyone else. But also, in typical socially awkward Razzle fashion (affectionate), despite potentially trying to avoid bothering her too much, he still messes that up by sending her too many letters. Or at least by causing her to raise an eyebrow at them sending any letters at all; that's something she expects from human children, not really a fellow Toon. He definitely does put her on a pedestal, being surprised to hear her tell them that it's okay to just. Talk to her. As if, because she's a Main and a celebrity and likely Gardenview's second most popular Toon, she's untouchable. Above the other Toons, and deserving of more respect. Dazzle, in comparison, is far more 'normal' around Vee, appearing to just treat her like any other Toon.

Meanwhile, on Vee's side of things... It's obvious that, as of the time of these conversations, Vee doesn't really know the twins personally. She's received Razzle's many letters, but hasn't properly spoken to him or Dazzle much. And even when they do get the chance to talk in the elevator, half the time (ie the R&D-initiated conversation) they simply exchange basic pleasantries instead of anything more meaningful. Their relationship is that of a celebrity and a fan, and not much more.

However, I think that Razzle and Dazzle are people who Vee is especially willing to become closer with. The invite for them to come visit her room feels significant to me, and not something she'd offer to just anyone. (Though at the same time I admittedly could also see that sort of thing just being a normal part of the Toons' 'culture' instead.)

Vee does absolutely have an ego to her, so Razzle being such an adoring fan does help endear him to her. They appeal to her pride. But even more importantly than that is the fact that the three of them have a lot of mutual close friends. Notably Glisten, Astro, and Brightney. So like. When there's that much overlap in friend groups and all of her closest friends are so fond of the duo, it just makes sense for her to try and be friends with them as well. To reach out a little more and be friendlier with them than she typically would with Toons she's not close with (not that she's intentionally unfriendly to anyone, mind you). Everything is set up so perfectly for them to theoretically be friends; they just need to act and take those first steps.

With Astro perhaps being an especially strong contributor to that feeling, given that I imagine Astro is more the type to have a small handful of really close friends rather than a bunch of buddies he's less close to. So Dazzle being in that little circle is! Pretty significant to Vee! A friend of Astro's is, at least on some level, a friend of hers (Except Dandy She Does Not Count Dandy /silly).

Perhaps Dazzle being close with Astro and Brightney also contributes to why he treats Vee like he would any other Toon? Just. Him possibly hearing the other two talk about her and getting more acquainted with the idea of "Vee the Person" and not just "Vee the Celebrity" through that. While Razzle was perhaps already asleep because the conversations happened during a Book Club meeting gdshdgdf.

Regarding R&D and the game show... Of course, Vee's not really able to run her show properly anymore, what with the shutdown and her floor and stage having been overrun with Twisteds. But if she ever got the chance to do something larger-scale than just a trivia night again? I could see her putting together something special to allow the boys to participate. A "special episode" where the three contestants are actually three pairs of Toons, so that Razzle and Dazzle don't have an unfair advantage. Perhaps she'd even share the hosting stage for the first time ever, inviting Brightney on as a co-host to fit the duo theming. Plus, having Brightney around might help Dazzle's confidence with being in the spotlight, and also she'd be too OP of a partner to be a contestant herself gdgsfhshf.

Getting to help her with backstage work is a more difficult ask, because she is very particular about the details for her game show. She's very much a perfectionist when it comes to her show, and everything has to be the way she envisions it. But, post-shutdown, now that she's found other hobbies she enjoys and other ways that she'd like to spend her time instead of just endlessly working on her game show, I'd like to think she'd ease up on that, if she ever got to have a proper, full-scale game show again. Trust the other people working with her and spread the workload more reasonably, instead of trying to control everything herself. And so,, perhaps Razzle and Dazzle would be welcome to help out backstage at that point.

On the flip side, Vee would also make sense as someone the twins might ask to star in one of their plays--assuming Razzle can work up the courage to 'bother' her like that, anyway. She has experience in acting, after all, since that's basically what she does constantly for her game show. We've talked about this before, though, and as I've already said, I think it'd be interesting if Vee would actually struggle to play any role that isn't her show host persona or her regular self. Her show host act may be perfect, but that's because it was practiced heavily until she was finally able to reach that point. Failing to meet the twins' expectations for her role in their play would be a humiliating experience for her, to be sure. But it would also lead to a nice bonding experience for the three of them, I think. Razzle and Dazzle, who, in their everyday life, each also tend to struggle to break out of the personalities and emotions assigned to them at birth, could offer Vee tips on what they do to embody characters who are different from their 'defaults'. It also, if only briefly, flips the power dynamic between them: Vee may be the famous celebrity, but Razzle and Dazzle are the experts in this situation. They're teaching her. And I dunno, I just think that's kinda neat.

And we've talked about this before in relation to our specific muses, but I'll put it here, too! I imagine the act of befriending Vee is actually a joint effort from both brothers. And, as a result, Vee comes to consider both of them to be her friends, and is likely equally close to both of them. Razzle is the one who takes the initiative to approach Vee, especially early on. She's his idol, and so they're the one who wants to be around her more. He's a bit nervous about overstepping his bounds with her, sure, but once she invites the two of them to visit her outside of runs? Razzle's the one who makes that decision to take her up on the offer.

However, they're also pretty socially awkward. And starstruck. And so they sort of struggle to actually hold a proper conversation with Vee, despite his enthusiasm to see her and the fact that he was the one who wanted to talk to her in the first place. And that's where Dazzle, despite his more introverted and pessimistic nature, is actually able to step in and save the interaction from becoming an awkward mess. He has an easier time just Talking to Vee like he would any other Toon, and so he's a lifesaver in the early days of the trio's developing friendship.

I've made this comparison multiple times before in private, but Vee can be said to have two "sides" to her: there's her energetic, upbeat show host persona, which she uses when, well, hosting her game show, as well as to interact with visitors to the Gardenview Center and the public in general; and then there's the way she behaves when she's not performing--her genuine, true self, which is much calmer but also often feels harder to approach.

The high-energy, low-energy dichotomy that can be observed in Vee also exists between the twin masks, and so you can sort of. 'Assign' each brother to one of Vee's 'sides'. Razzle matches up with Vee's show persona, including the aspect of a mutual interest in performing. But... That's Vee when she's pretending. It's not her real self. It's Dazzle who better matches her true personality, meshes with her energy better, and even is closer friends with much of Vee's closest circle. And that, perhaps, adds to why he has an easier time starting to form a meaningful bond with her compared to his brother.

But of course, as I've already said, Vee grows fond of both Razzle and Dazzle in the end!