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Ooh, this is... Yikes. It's really checking a good majority of the boxes, isn't it? If you don't mind, I really need to like... Make a checklist here. I'm absolutely mind-boggled by this.

>Dave's alleged Toxic Masculinity as a main character trait. Fanon. >Dave's alleged Toxic Masculinity as a root for his Internalized Homophobia. Fanon. >DaveKat-Centric, no matter the route. Fanon. >RoseMary getting absolutely shelved (as a consequence of the former bullet point, especially). Fanon. >Vriska's route, which, from what I know, was clearly written by someone who really does not get Vriska. Fanon. >Eridan's route. See above. Fanon. >Being fucking awful about Gamzee. Canon, but in a bad way. Do these people not realize that a lot of the way Gamzee functions was born out of legitimate racism? >Encouraging legitimate Drug Addiction just so that everyone else stays happy. I'm not even going to say "Canon" or "Fanon" for this one, because this is just bad. I'd accept this as a choice if it was played as being horrible or something. Is... Is that framed as the right thing to do? That's just awful. That's not a good ending.

YOU UNDERSTAND. YOU UNDERSTAND COMPLETELY.

Saw is one of my favorite movies ever. It was my first hyperfixation. And let me tell you, I don’t think you can earnestly fully understand the Striders without watching Saw. ESPECIALLY Dave. It’s so intrinsic to their characters it’s terrifying.

A lot of people tend to skip out on watching Saw for the sake of the Striders because they think it’s just a gore fest with no breaks- I assure you it’s not. Saw (2004) is an intensely psychological indie horror film and it’s a brilliant fucking movie. There’s a damn good fucking reason why it was an absolute pop culture phenomenon in the 2000’s.

Yeah. The handling is definitely one of the biggest factors that ruins it. A lot of Post-Canon is hugely mishandled, and meat!Roxy is no exception to this. The other biggest factor that ruins it is that it was put in official material.

I obviously don't hate the idea of a hyperfeminine person realizing they're transmasculine, or a hypermasculine person realizing they're transfeminine. Those are real experiences that people have, and they deserve to be touched upon. People with those experiences get very, very little representation. I said this before, but I have no ill feelings towards people who like meat!Roxy. It lines up with some people's experiences more than some other portrayals of transition, and therefore some people will gravitate towards it because of its rare factor of relatability to them.

The thing about it is that the writers were never going to get the handling of it right. The Post-Canon writers are not good at their job, they have too much to live up to, and it really seems as though the move was made to spite that widely accepted notion that Roxy is a trans girl- something that has some very real backing within the text of canon. Transmasculine Roxy... Isn't an inherently bad idea! It really isn't. But it is a bad idea to not only confirm a character's previously up-in-the-air birth sex- something that directly goes against one of the most widely accepted transfeminine headcanons of all time- and then proceed to make that character trans in the other direction... While completely sucking the soul out of that character.

Transmasculine Roxy is a fine idea. It's just not one that's able to ever be comfortably explored in a piece of official material. It's perfectly okay for fanworks and personal interpretation, but it doesn't have a sound place in canon just due to the optics of it. It's just too contrarian. And while some people may not care, a lot more people will, and a lot more people do. Too many people care for it to be a good idea to canonize in any regard, no matter what level of eggshells the writers walk on.

And while that may seem like an apocalyptically grim statement to make... That really is just how writing for an audience works. It might suck sometimes, but it's how it is.

not saying they cant exist outside of eachother, what i /am/ saying is that if you mischaracterize their relationship with eachother you are exponentially more likely to mischaracterize the two on their own as well.

i could go on, but i dont want to completely flood your inbox.

Absolutely true, you get it!! Nepeta has real, genuine depth to her character, and I love her.

In order to truly understand Nepeta, you have to understand Equius, and what Nepeta’s dynamic with him is. Same goes for the inverse. It’s not at all a stretch to say that one’s closest relationship can help define who they are- especially when what we’re talking about is, you know, a fictional character. That’s just how writing works!

As you said, they can exist outside of one another, but you really do have to understand their dynamic, even if you’re just writing how they function as people on their own. It’s integral to who they are as people. They really do balance each other out nicely.

Most of the characters were amazing and I loved the story of it, my favorite one was karkat since he was so freaked out about someone having the same blood color as him. However there were also ones and I disliked or downright hated

Jakes route is where you have to ignore all of his issues because if you don’t he shuts down and you can’t solve anything. I personally just find Jake a little infiruraring but that’s just me/gen

Aradia route was not friending her in the universe, she is from canon and therefore extremely different than how she would be without sburb. Her story deals around the narrative of the story and breaking canon and while I do love her for that I wish the route was a little more focused on her instead of the narrative

And dirks. Oh god dirks. His entire route was narrative usage. We were completely unable to befriend him before ult dirk stepped in and fucked shit up, it dealt with the epilogues so heavily (again I quite hate them) and he was just a plot device for the story. I like his character a lot and was pretty upset when he was just used for the narrative without a lick of actually getting to know him

Anyways there’s my pesterquest rant, I never played friendsim so there were a few references I didn’t get but that’s neither here nor there

Yeah, this falls pretty in line with a portion of some of the complaints I heard. Dirks route especially is one I've heard of and found a bit... Wince-worthy. From what I can gather, a notable portion of Pesterquest is dedicated to shilling Postcanon, which... Is not very good. It's its own game, don't turn it into an advertisement... Come on. :(

It’s ok, I quite literally asked for it!!

This is all very interesting… I’m absorbing this analysis into my head sponge. The sprites are all so severely overlooked, and I’m very thankful that there are people out there giving them the love and thought they deserve.

You understand him. In my eyes, that’s the canon Mituna voice claim, I don’t care what anyone says… It just fits too well!!!!

Honestly, Mituna being obnoxious on purpose, out of spite, and because he thinks it’s funny? Grade fucking A. He’s right. He really is just like that in canon, a lot of people forget that!

Personally, though, I think it’s also absolutely a high level of genuine- he’s not doing cool kid ironies, it’s still a very, very genuine method of self expression, even if it is over-the-top and cheesy. He’s a lot more self aware than people give him credit for, though, so I feel like it being so extra would be just as much of a method of poking fun of himself as it is some level of cathartic.

i love him he is so mentally ill <3

he is the embodiment of "hes just like me fr /neg"

There’s nothing these bitches hate more about this situation than the fact that their own existence as a singular entity is actively proving each other wrong about the other!