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Because Ray and Joel arenât physically affectionate in the office, no one believes that theyâre really dating. Joelay, complete at 3850 words. The first tweet refers to this blog post.
It all starts with a tweet in March, 2011. The link leads to a photo of Joel, sitting across a restaurant table with a forkful of spaghetti halfway up to his mouth and a questioning expression at Ray, whoâs probably taken it with his cell phone.
Ray Narvaez, Jr @AH_BrownMan
@JoelHeyman Disappointed thereâs only one Donut on this date. pic.twitter.com/nU2SMmRMFv
Itâs followed by a succession of tweets and retweets about video games, so no one pays it much attention.
âEnjoy your date last weekend?â Michael asks jokingly in the Achievement Hunter office.
âOh, yeah, it was great,â Ray tells him, distracted by his Xbox not reading the disk of Dead Rising 2. Hours later heâs sitting with his legs bent in the chair, headphones on and focused on killing a zombie with a baseball bat. He doesnât notice that Joel has come into the office until the zombie is dead and thereâs a box of frosted donuts on his desk.
Joel doesnât say anything, just smiles at him and leaves the donuts there.
With his headphones still on, Ray grins at him, slowly and unapologetically. His eyes follow Joel as he goes out of the office and then return to the zombie slaughter thatâs necessary for another achievement guide, without acknowledging that his co-workers are laughing.
Ray Narvaez, Jr @AH_BrownMan
Power outage in Austin so weâre playing Pokemon Black and eating Doritos. @JoelHeyman #NotGonnaLie #BestDateSoFar
Geoff Ramsey @GeoffLRamsey
@AH_BrownMan prove it.
Ray Narvaez, Jr @AH_BrownMan
@Geoff Ramsey @JoelHeyman pic.twitter.com/7rbP34Z5am
Itâs a bad photo of them sitting on a couch, making faces that are lit poorly by the Nintendo DS that Ray is holding up.
Joel Heyman @JoelHeyman
So we catch monsters in these little balls and then make them fight other monsters for money? #PokemonBlack
âOh, okay.â Joel nods and says, almost a minute later, âI have a level three blue monkey, a level six hamster with its tail on fire, and a level two dancing cactus.â
Ray tries not to grin and fails. âYeah, you do.â
âThatâs good, right?â
âItâs uh, you know,â says Ray, shrugging.
After glancing at him, Joel closes the Nintendo DS and stands up with a smile playing around his mouth. âThis game is stupid.â
Joel asks after a beat, âWhat does that even mean?â
Ray Narvaez, Jr @AH_BrownMan
Tried to play through Pokemon Black with #TheDreamTeam. Got as far as Aspertia City. #NeverAgain pic.twitter.com/5Od4yZbuZy
It links to a photo of an Emboar, Panpour and Maractus, with the lowest at level fifty.
Thereâs nothing else to suggest that they are dating until December, 2011. In the Rooster Teeth office they stand close, but not too close, and laugh through a HORSE video at inside jokes that donât make any sense, and have lunch together every now and then.
Ray Narvaez, Jr @AH_BrownMan
@JoelHeyman has to buy a new toothbrush every time he stays over. pic.twitter.com/PybflaaNCt
Itâs a photo of a cup with at least seven different coloured toothbrushes in it, next to a bathroom sink.
Joel Heyman @JoelHeyman
@AH_BrownMan Could probably sell these on eBay. pic.twitter.com/SqXB5993kr
His reply is a photo of t-shirts spread across a bed, folded roughly and reading things like, âACHIEVEâ and âIâM GOING CAKELESSâ.
Ray Narvaez, Jr @AH_BrownMan
@JoelHeyman Hey, Iâve been looking for those!
Joel Heyman @JoelHeyman
@AH_BrownMan There are six t-shirts now hidden around my apartment. Good luck and #MerryChristmas
While theyâre in the Achievement Hunter office setting up for a Letâs Play, Geoff asks, making air quotations with his fingers, âSo you guys are still âgoing outâ?â
âMe and Joel?â Ray glances across the shelves of games at him and uses air quotations pointedly as he says, ââYeahâ.â
âThatâs great, buddy,â Geoff says to a copy of Grand Theft Auto IV.
âThanks.â
Barbara Dunkelman @BlawnDee
@JoelHeyman @AH_BrownMan congratulations!!
Barbara Dunkelman @BlawnDee
@AH_BrownMan @JoelHeyman what did you guys get each other for your 1st anniversary?
Ray Narvaez, Jr @AH_BrownMan
@BlawnDee @JoelHeyman A pack of ten toothbrushes and a key to Joelâs apartment. #Joelay
âI think thereâs a certain distance you have to go for the fans,â Burnie says in a video podcast, gesturing absently with a beer bottle in his hand. âYou have to be dedicated and hardworking, to create something that they can get behind. Look at the guys over at Achievement Hunter; you go above and beyond expectations to make videos that people will watch, and at the same time theyâre getting to know you and want more and more to support what it is youâre doing, because youâre damn likeable people.
âRay and Joel are dating on Twitter. Itâs that kind ofâŠyou know, itâs that kind of relationship that you have with the fans, where theyâre investing in you and what you could be doing in the future.â He asks, âHow long have you guys been dating now?â
Theyâre sitting next to each other on the red couch, but not any closer than friends would. Ray answers, âOver a year,â and Joel nods slightly while looking at his own bottle.
âAnd people still get behind you,â Burnie says, as if that proves the point heâs trying to make. âTheyâre still interested in âthe Ray and Joel storyâ, what you guys are doing with your time, and you can communicate that to them in a way thatâs both approachable and safe. Youâre dating in 140 characters or less, on a website where people can choose to engage with that if they want to. Or they can just go to roosterteeth.com, or watch our videos on YouTube. Weâve got all these, you know, these dozens of people working on all different kinds of content for the fans to enjoy.â
Joel picks the label off his bottle, steadfastly not looking up at him or the camera.
After that thereâs nothing about their relationship for weeks until Joel comes into the Achievement Hunter office and, finding that Rayâs busy recording a Five Facts video about Fallout, writes out messages on post-it notes that he sticks along his desk and monitor.
I have a meeting at 5, the first one reads. Text me when you think youâll be ready to go, leads on to, or if youâre getting home some other way, on another post-it.
Ray only glances at them as heâs talking into a microphone, and nods at Joel in acknowledgment. When the recording is finished and Joel has left the office, he takes the notes down. âWho writes one word on a post-it note?â he mutters to himself, amused to read the words, have, a, very, good, day, all on separate pieces of paper.
Theyâre taken down and tossed into the trash, but a single post-it note stays on the wall beside his desk: Youâre.
âWhatâs up with that, Ray?â asks Michael while theyâre filming for an episode of VS.
âThis?â Ray peels it off the wall, holding it up beside his face for the camera that Lindsayâs silently holding. Youâre, it reads on one side, and then he turns it over, Cute. As the others laugh, startled, he makes an expression and sticks the post-it back up with some tape.
Joel Heyman @JoelHeyman
@AH_BrownMan I wrote that in confidence. #VS
Michael Jones @AH_Michael
@JoelHeyman @AH_BrownMan Youâre? Youâre what?? Find out what Joel thinks of Ray in this weekâs episode of VS. #ItsCanon pic.twitter.com/xqEo5AisHF
Itâs a photo of Rayâs wall, with the post-it note between the Achievement Hunter logo and fan art of him as Tuxedo Mask.
Over time, other things come to decorate his desk: a signed picture of Caboose from Red vs. Blue, a long-stemmed plastic rose, a fanâs design for a #TheDreamTeam t-shirt and a cartoon of Ray and Joel holding hands.
On a night out with the more senior employees of Rooster Teeth, Joel protests that he canât drink because heâll be driving himself home. âI canât- No, no, I canât,â he tells them, shaking his head and taking out his car keys for emphasis. âNo, see-â
âWhatâs the problem?â asks Burnie, holding a bottle of beer. âGus can drive you back. If you donât want to drink, thatâs fine. But if you do, I donât see the problem here.â
Gus glances at him with his glass resting on the table. âOh, actually⊠Iâm already halfway through my drink. Estherâs driving for me tonight.â
âI can drive to your apartment, so long as youâre sober enough to give me directions,â offers Michael from where heâs been talking to the Ramseys.
After a few seconds of hesitation, Joel cracks. He hands over his car keys and doesnât start drinking until heâs sent and received a text in reply:
Weâre drinking tonight. Michaelâs going to drive me home later.
NP. Just know youâre missing out on Star Wars IV on AMC and microwave popcorn.
With a smile he types out, Spoiler â they blow up the Death Star.
Youâre kidding, and he can actually read the deadpan on the screen.
Hours later, the door to his apartment is unlocked and pushed open by Michael, whoâs muttering to himself, âIâm charging you for gas when you come into work tomorrow. How lost could we possibly get in a five-mile radius of your apartment building, holy shitâŠâ and he notices, âHey, did you leave your lights on?â
âNo, itâsssâŠâ he slurs, swaying drunkenly.
Ray steps out from the living room, as if heâd been waiting, and he stands there, awkwardly, until Joel stumbles over to him and hugs him so that his hair is brushing under his chin.
âRayyyyy,â he says, smiling at the ceiling with half-lidded eyes.
âUh,â comes an uncertain voice from the front door.
âHey, Michael,â says Ray as his hair is ruffled by a still-smiling Joel.
Heâs docile while drunk, and led easily into the bedroom where heâs tucked under the covers and there is a glass of water and aspirin on the table waiting for when he wakes up. Fingers stroke through his hair and he grasps at them, holding on until he falls asleep â only distantly hearing that Michael and Ray are talkingâŠabout a framed photo of them at the top of the Empire State Building.
At the Achievement Hunter office, Michael stops asking if Ray needs a ride home after work, or making jokes about them dating in videos or on Twitter.
On September 15, 2012, he gives Ray two limited edition Halo Xbox 360 controllers for his birthday, and on Joelâs birthday the next day he claims to have already given him a present.
Ray Narvaez, Jr @AH_BrownMan
Shoutout to #NY for my momâs cooking, the PS4 reveal, and marriage equality. @JoelHeyman pic.twitter.com/phIcT8IW0L
It links to a photo of him wearing a tuxedo, with a red rose as his boutonniere. Joel is standing next to him with an arm around his waist, looking at something past the camera. Heâs also wearing a suit with a coloured tie and vest to match the rose. It looks like a photo that wasnât taken by a professional, angled slightly with people in the background â but both men, however distracted, are smiling.
Joel Heyman @JoelHeyman
Busy week in New York with @AH_BrownMan. The PS4 was announced, we met some RVB fans and then decided to get married. pic.twitter.com/fRWhXUzWRE
Itâs a cleaner-looking photo of them with their families lined up on either side.
Theyâre asked so many questions over Twitter that they reply, almost nonsensically:
Joel Heyman @JoelHeyman
@AH_BrownMan Because itâs legal in New York, not Austin, and his parents live there.
Ray Narvaez, Jr @AH_BrownMan
@JoelHeyman My cousin made about four dozen Pokemon cupcakes, flavoured strawberry, chocolate and vanilla: pic.twitter.com/U8dwXDPeeg
Ray Narvaez, Jr @AH_BrownMan
She took that photo before the reception. None of them survived. #TheRealHungerGames
Ray Narvaez, Jr @AH_BrownMan
I have hundreds more followers now than I did before the wedding. Let me try this: shoutout to same-sex marriage? #NY4M #TX4M
Joel Heyman @JoelHeyman
Why do you guys want to know these things?
Ray Narvaez, Jr @AH_BrownMan
@JoelHeyman Weâve been living together for months now. But donât tell my grandma that.
Ray Narvaez, Jr @AH_BrownMan
@JoelHeyman @burnie Video? #WeddingHype
Joel Heyman @JoelHeyman
@AH_BrownMan @burnie Please, letâs just do a video.
RT Life â Ray and Joel in NY is uploaded the next day. It opens with the Rooster Teeth 10 Year Anniversary logo, then a grainy image of Times Square. The camera pulls out to show itâs a postcard on a table that Rayâs sitting on the other side of â a reversal of the photo he tweeted almost two years before.
âItâs Ray here, from Achievement Hunter. You canât really tell that weâre in New York right now, so,â he holds up a soft pretzel and a coffee cup, turned so that you canât read the logo. As heâs doing that, the camera is set down on the table and Joel moves to sit next to him. When the camera angle is acceptable he tears off some of the pretzel and eats it.
âIf you follow either of us on Twitter, youâll know that a lotâs happened in the week that weâve been here. We went to what Sony was calling the PlayStation Meeting 2013, where they announced the PS4 console. Thatâs exciting, youâll hear more about it in AHWU. And, uhâŠâ he trails off to look at Joel, sitting next to him and swallowing down the pretzel.
âTransition?â Joel suggests.
âIs that how weâre going to do this?â and the video transitions as heâs talking, so he provides the voiceover to otherwise muted footage of New York City from a cab window. The camera turns to Ray, whoâs sitting beside Joel and smiles despite looking tired.
It cuts again, to an extreme close-up of a bowl of popcorn. The camera zooms out to show the other bowls of popcorn surrounding it, then stops abruptly. After a second Joel says, sounding amused, âI canât- I canât lift it any higher,â and Ray laughs, suddenly and loudly.
Walking back with the camera shows Ray standing at a table covered in bowls, plates and some cups of popcorn, grinning at him. âI wanna watch The Notebook,â he says jokingly.
It cuts to two garment bags hanging side by side in a closet. A hand reaches out to touch one, and Ray whispers, âI canât remember which one is mine.â
The video cuts to a New York City street, where Joel is ordering a soft pretzel from a vendor. He walks over to Ray, whoâs holding the camera, and light glints off the wedding ring on his left hand even as he frowns down at the paper bag.
It cuts to another moment on the same day, with Ray pointing out an ad for Tomb Raider. He goes into a store to buy a postcard. The door to their hotel room opens. âSo, you ready to film this?â asks Ray distantly as Joelâs hand puts the postcard on the table and zooms in.
âYeah,â he replies, and the 10 Year Anniversary logo plays again.
Ray and Joel are sitting at the table, just as they were before the transition. The pretzel has been eaten and coffee cup pushed out of frame.
âWe got married,â says Joel.
âYeah.â
âWeâre married now.â
âIt happened.â
âWe came to New York City to get married.â
Ray half-smiles at him and says, âItâs like youâve never said that before.â
The video transitions, just as Joel moves suddenly towards Ray, to a dozen half-empty bowls of popcorn on a couch and a TV screen paused on the climax of The Notebook. The closing logo plays and it cuts back to them nearly kissing and then laughing instead.
Geoff Ramsey @GeoffLRamsey
@AH_BrownMan @JoelHeyman I call bullshit. #RTLife youtube.com/watch?v=nXYflxE6vVc
Geoff Ramsey @GeoffLRamsey
@AH_BrownMan @JoelHeyman April Foolâs isnât for another three months, idiots.
Michael Jones @AH_Michael
Congratulations to @AH_BrownMan and @JoelHeyman for tying the knot. I couldnât be there but the photos look amazing. #EspeciallyTheCupcakes #RTWedding
âI donât know what weâd have to do to convince you,â Ray says with a shrug in the Achievement Hunter office. On his left hand is a plain gold wedding ring, which he turns every now and then, conscious of the weight.
âThis is crossing a line,â Geoff tells him. âI donât mind if you pretend to date for the fans, but shamming a marriage is disrespectful to them. Itâs lying-â
Michael intervenes, with his hands raised peaceably in the air. âWhoa, Geoff, whereâs this coming from-â
âItâs coming from a man whoâs been married ten years,â he replies sharply. âYou can pretend to be married for the next decade, and it wonât be anything like a real marriage thatâs lasted that long. Itâs hard work. Itâs what you do when you love somebody. Itâs⊠I donât even know why Iâm bothering with you. I should turn this over to Matt, or Burnie, so you can understand just how serious this kind of shit is. Marriage isnât funny. It isnât a joke-â
âWe arenât joking,â Ray interrupts him.
Geoff says, disbelievingly, âExcuse me?â
âWe started dating two years ago. At what point did you hear me laughing about it? Youâve crossed a line, Geoff. Iâm pretty sure this counts as workplace harassment.â
âWhen an employee is behaving inappropriately itâs my job to tell them to stop, or risk getting fired-â he says emphatically.
âWhat do I have to do to prove it to you? Huh, Geoff? Make out with my fucking husband in the middle of the office?â asks Ray, voice getting louder and louder.
âOh, no, please tell me this isnât a game of gay chicken that went way too far-â
âIâm taking an early lunch,â Ray says with finality and leaves the room, with his audio synced for a recording that heâll have to do later. The Xbox 360 and computer screen are left so long that Ryan has to get up and risk Geoffâs wrath to power them down again.
Ray Narvaez, Jr @AH_BrownMan
@JoelHeyman My favourite wedding photo: pic.twitter.com/HiFQBHULPY
It links to a photo of Joel, wearing his suit and hanging upside down from a jungle gym in a playground. His red tie has fallen past his face and a flower girl is running in front of him.
A bundle of envelopes arrive at the office, tied together with a ribbon. Ray comes into the kitchen to find Geoff sitting there with an open envelope, expensive paper slid out of it so the names Heyman and Narvaez are facing up. There are two bottles of beer on the table.
Without a word he goes to the fridge, takes out a vitamin water and sits down next to Geoff, who shrugs and cracks open one of the beers. They drink together and then Geoff sighs, long and resigned. âI fucked up,â he admits.
âYouâre an asshole,â Ray tells him.
âYeah,â Geoff agrees, taking another drink.
When Joel passes by the kitchen, he takes a seat and opens the second bottle. They sit a little closer, but not too close, and smile a little more.
Geoff Ramsey @GeoffLRamsey
Late congratulations to @JoelHeyman and @AH_BrownMan, who got married last week in NY. Paid leave counts as a wedding gift, right?
In December, 2013, Joel and Ray film an episode of HUNT.
âThe first challenge is in Call of Duty: Ghosts on the Xbox 360,â Ray reads from a sheet of paper as he navigates the menu. âWeâll both play as weapon specialists in Extinction mode, which is pretty much an updated version of Nazi Zombies but with alien hordes.â
âSo what do we have to do?â asks Joel, moving through the menu on the now split-screen.
âWe have objectives that will come up on the screen, but the winner of this challenge is whoever stays alive the longest,â he tells him as his avatar runs in the direction of the first hive. âOkay, Iâm gonna place a drill on this hive, here. Enemies will start assaulting us; you can lay traps and upgrade your weapons-â
âThat sounds like Nazi Zombies,â says Joel.
Ray nods, hardly paying attention when other people in the Achievement Hunter office start leaving for lunch. After about twenty minutes, the HUNT challenge is completed with Joelâs death when he tried to snipe several Hunters that were charging him. While setting up for the next challenge, Ray grins at him.
âWhat?â asks Joel, then, âIt was taking way too long.â
âWell, letâs see how you do with the next round. Angry Birds Star Wars: pretty simple, weâll take turns and whoever beats the level is the winner.â
Joel looks at the screen, pained. âReally?â
âHey, I didnât make the list,â Ray says with a shrug and a half-smile. âAll we have to do now is choose which birds weâre going to play as-â
An error message comes up on the screen: Xbox is unable to read the disc.
âOh, no.â He opens the disc drive and holds it up to the light, cleaning it with a microfiber cloth. When he puts it back into the Xbox, it whirs audibly as the icon says, Reading, then goes silent as if thereâs no disc in the drive. âDammit!â
âIs this a problem?â asks Joel, putting his controller on the desk.
âItâs not a big deal. We could probably use Michaelâs instead,â but Ray stands up to look at the Xbox 360 anyway, opening the disc drive and putting in another game to see if it will play.
âOr, we could take a break,â Joel suggests.
Michael Jones @AH_Michael
@AH_BrownMan @JoelHeyman Behind the scenes of the latest Achievement HUNT: vine.co/v/hl2rPV51mA5 Alternatively titled, âI came back from lunch and I have an iPhone, idiotsâ.
It links to a vine of Ray and Joel âplayingâ Street Fighter IV on PS3 â four seconds of them jumping and kicking nowhere near each other, then turning to make faces at the camera.
All the photos he took â of Ray with his arm around Joelâs neck and fingers through his hair, grinning at the TV screen â of them kissing as their characters stand still without fighting â of their foreheads pressed together, their smiles half-hidden by Joelâs enormous hoodie â are quickly and quietly deleted.
orchestranomaphone replied to your post: I was wondering if you had any advice to offer in the way of writing? You seem to be able to focus really intensely on your writing, and it seems like you've developed your characters/story really well, and I'm just wondering if you've got any advice on how to do that? I love writing, but all I'm ever able to crank out is quick short things, even though I have big elaborate stories I want to write. I feel it's an issue of focus and dedication, and you seem to be skilled in both. Thanks
this is awesome advice - writing myself into a corner is something ive done many, many times, and figuring out the whys of the characters has really helped me to do that less, if ever now.
yeah i've had that happen too. And it was mostly just because i tried so hard to create conflict and problems for the MC that it got to the point where it was like ??? how are they getting out of this? Yanno where it doesn't seem like there's any solution.
but keeping it focused on the characters and what they are doing and why creates organic conflict and organic solutions so things make more sense.Â
not to say that writing yourself into a corner can't happen when you do that bc it totally can. this is where i'd say one would need to have and End-Game in mind while writing. Don't go there unless you know how you want that scenario to end. And ofc it needs to be reasoned within the narrative arc.Â
For me I always try to think : Everything should happen for a reason and Actions have consequences.Â
Like if we can talk about Breaking Bad for a second. The entire Breaking Bad arc is completely created by decisions characters made. The only thing that wasn't was Walter's discovery of his lung cancer. But that was the catalyst for every single decision made since. This is where i'd say there aren't necessarily rules for writing--even my advice. Lung cancer was entirely out of anyone's control. Walter didn't decide to get it--and he didn't smoke. But it's entirely within the realm of possibility that he could get it still-- in fact disease is something that DOES happen to people regardless of "reasons". But everything he DID decide going forward was his decision--which makes that show so freaking good. You can literally trace everything back through all the choices he made. Everything bad that happened to Walter, Jesse, Skylar and others were because of decisions that were made by the characters. And even things by characters who aren't the Main characters.Â
So i mean like you CAN have things that happen that aren't necessarily choices made by people but you should think about how people will respond to that thing happening. U feel me?
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