I had a LOT of fun with the expressions for Eve, Sayu, and Yinu, and even MORE fun with Neon J's cunty poses lol
I plan to do more of the NSR cast, but once I got to Neon J I knew I didn't have enough energy for the rest. Tatiana and 1010 are on my radar for the next batch of doodles, and if I have energy then Zuke, West, and Kliff.
Might even redraw some of my NSR OCs again. Been having daydreams with Cyril and Purl a lot recently (even before the announcement for NSR2) so those two will probably see the drawing board soon.
Glad you like the doodles though! I can see the differences in how I draw the characters since I've been trying to loosen up my art style a bit, and am pretty happy with where I am heading!
It's probably thanks to the brush since I finally found a brush that gives a good texture at low pressure but is more solid at higher pressure so I don't have to swap brushes from sketch to coloring as often as I was before.
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Just saw the trailer on youtube. This is what happens when I go to see a movie! Stuff is just announced without me!
But yea! Can't wait to play this game! I hope it comes out fairly soon and has the same grasp on me as the first one did! Would not be all that upset to be dragged fully back into NSR lol.
Wonder what the story will be. Possibly B2J fighting other indie artists who call for a fight against them? Or maybe something just as political as the first game instead of just a boss rush for a boss rush's sake game.
We shall see as time passes and hopefully more stuff is announced and revealed!
(also love Zuke and Mayday's new looks. Can't wait to see the other two bandmates that the steam page references)
All the Ilias are looking gorgeous so far! (Especially the Miku hair Ilia!) Question: what would a purely NSR Ilia look like? Would he be a robot? Or a NPC human?
He'd be human. Most likely some kind of elemental.
I asked a friend what kind of elemental/theme thing I would be, and they gave a really sweet but also abstract answer, mainly connected with like the weather and clouds and mystery.
Don't know what I am gonna do with that, this is just a very early design for NSR Ilia. Really I just wanted to make sure I get the idea of transparent skin and sewing needles earrings with hair going into them down before I forgot.
Basically the earrings, middles hair bit, and transparent skin are the only factors I really am down for. I like the eye, but need to play around with that more (as well as play with the hands more too).
But yea, NSR Ilia is probably one of the Ilias who doesn't have his sight unlocked and is basically a fairly normal human.
I actually have the funny idea that he is the one who makes the doll designs for NSR lol. I was gonna have Ilia have a hobby of sewing and making dolls (something I can't do but really want to learn to do one day), and was even gonna draw Ilia with Dagon making a lil Dagon plush (here's a wip of that)
So I think it would be really nice if NSR Ilia was just a doll designer or prototyper for NSR. Which is also really funny to think about considering the new Eve doll is up for preorder now!
Yea, still need to work some more on his design. Literally just made this in like 10 minutes to finally get that hair and earring idea finally out of my head. But expect some changes at some point!
HC: NSpideR Peni is a robot elemental, who has circuit board patterns all over kits skin and face
I love that circuit idea a lot!
Though I don't think there would be a robot elemental (at least not at the moment, Peni might be the first one if that is the case!). I can see her and her powers being a biological milestone for the world, showing that the magic of the world is evolving to incorporate robots into it a lot more (which goes into another ask I got recently about bio-robots I will answer soon lol).
Technically not a robot, but there are definitely a lot of similarities and a heightened connection to tech that Peni has that has made a lot of people wonder if kit was a secret robot (mainly kits peers).
Anyway! I like the idea that there are some skin conditions that show the inside of the body. I already showed this with Daray, whose skin shows his skeleton off. So Peni has a similar one (or maybe it's the same condition just a different specificity) that shows her nervous system (or like, the more major parts of the nervous system like how Daray's skin doesn't show every single bone).
That skin condition, along with Peni's tech magic combined to make kits styling more robotic/mechanical looking (like a circuit board) while also allowing kits eyes, nerve markings, and hair to actually glow (which can dim down at times or even brighten up).
All of this to say, technically Peni is not a robot elemental as those haven't really been seen before now, as robots are a fairly new phenomenon in the scope of the world. But now that robots and technology is a much bigger part of the world (with all the new tech, robots, EDM music, stuff like that), the world is evolving to reflect this change and it is showing a lot in the newer generations.
As for Peni's design, I kinda combined a bit of the Spiderverse version and comic version. It's mainly the Spiderverse design with small tweaks to the clothes and hair from the comic. I also chose to go with yellow eyes instead of red because the comic SP//DR suit had yellow eyes and thought that would be a nice addition! :3
Your ask immediately made me think of this shirt for some reason. I have no idea if I made it up or saw it at some point, but I can see Eve relaxing in it lol.
Anyway! My opinions! (there is a lot more than I thought lol)
I personally like Eve using just she/her pronouns (and for now I will use she/her until I get to the it/its pronouns) but she has a very complicated relationship with her gender (which also encapsulates her sexuality).
Like I even want to start drawing her with top surgery scars thinking she either got a breast reduction or fully got rid of her breasts. Maybe she took some testosterone at some point but also leaned very far into the feminine aesthetic.
Sometimes wears butch or masc clothing, or makes her hair very short. Her entire display is just supposed to be experimental and all over the gender spectrum but also leaning a lot into the feminine even when playing around in the masc area.
And because she plays with her gender and expression in this way, she also always wants to exclusively use she/her. Those are what works but can also confused others when she is going into a more masc appearance. Even when she got her top surgery she had to be adamant to the people around her to keep using only she/her, not he/him or they/them which some people tried doing.
That is what I personally prefer for Eve.
However! I guess it/its pronouns could make Eve feel differently! (and now I will start using she/it for Eve).
All of what I said above would probably still be true, except that over time Eve might lean more into using it/its pronouns. It would be like reclaiming a part of itself that it never knew it lost.
I'm sure there were some people in Eve's life that made it feel less than human, even her own thoughts probably did that. Made her feel like an object (which is why it will sometimes present as a literal object like the chair) and so over time it just... ran with the idea of being an object but one with life.
At least that is what Eve would eventually come to think of herself. After the revolution, getting closure from Zuke, growing more into itself, all of that would need to happen before it would be able to see itself as an object with life instead of an object with purpose.
Let me try to explain what I mean by that.
Eve would see itself as a combination of a woman and natural phenomenon or object that needs a use to be important. Disguising herself as a chair, or comparing herself to tectonic plates, both of those instances were Eve is trying to reclaim what it means to be an object, but they were objects with purposes, easily forgotten about until they are needed or make some kind of dramatic act.
"A chair without a sitter is left with no purpose to exist." Without the direct purpose of a sitter (or another person) then a chair has no reason to exist (Eve has no reason to exist). This mindset shows Eve's co-dependency, but also shows how it sees itself. How it is an object, but it's usefulness and reason to live is defined by what others need of it or of how others see it.
Eve realizes she is a tool, that the only way that it has a reason to live is if it is helping others, or fulfilling other people's needs. She is not fulfilling her own needs, her own idea of who she is. No, instead Eve is acting as an object for others to use, which is why it started going by it/its pronouns.
"Remember when I was the tectonic plates and you were the sea?" This line is another reason why Eve would have started using it/its pronouns. In this aspect, it is still an object, but one that most people forget about until it does something dramatic like causing a tsunami with the sea or earthquakes on land.
Unless you are actively looking at tectonic plates, learning about them, then you really wouldn't care about them until they affect your life. That is how Eve feels. Unseen and forgotten about until it is seen as important.
Being a megastar is kinda like being a constant earthquake, where people can see her all the time and have her on their minds, but over time they get used to this life and what Eve is offering which makes Eve chase a new dramatic flare, a new music style, a new purpose in life to be seen by anyone around her.
When it can find a researcher who cares deeply about the beauty and importance of tectonic plates and is willing to learn more about them to understand them (so someone like Zuke who took time to learn more about Eve and understand it), then she feels seen and loved. Loved as the object that it perceives itself as, that it thinks everyone had forgotten about except for one person. It can start loving itself because of that one person who loves it (and when that person goes away, that love goes away too).
However, ones the revolution takes place and Eve gets closure from Zuke and starts to work on itself, I can see it questioning why it started using it/its pronouns in the first place. Even if it was always just personal use that only a select few people knew about (Zuke and Tatiana definitely knew) and not public knowledge, Eve would still start to question why she started using those pronouns and wonders what it is about that specific set that called out to her.
I can see Eve figuring out all this from above, or at least the general gist of it through therapy and self reflection. Maybe this would make it upset that it was using these pronouns in this way. Feeling cheap or fake for using them (even if it was only known by like 2 other people). There would always be this questioning that Eve has if she truly wants to go by she/it pronouns, and if its reasoning is good enough justification to continue to use them.
Honestly, I love the idea that Eve always kept this mainly to herself. This questioning aspect. I'm sure Zuke and Tatiana would have still used she/it for Eve only when talking with Eve (never outing her since she never said she was okay with that). Mayday and Haym definitely do not know about this. I can see Purl maybe figuring something out about this, or knowing of the it/its pronouns from one of their late nights together, but they never used those for Eve as she never explicitly asked for that to happen.
All that comes to a head when Rin starts going by it/its pronouns. Rin's whole reasoning for going exclusively by it/its at first was to piss off haters and to have fun with its gender. There was never a big deal about it, and soon those pronouns just truly grew onto Rin and stuck.
This was something entirely different to how Eve saw itself using those pronouns. But it also didn't like that justification really at all. Just doing something to piss people off felt too similar to what she was doing before, having pronouns based on how people would or have reacted to a part of the person.
Eve wanted something more internal. Not related to other people, something she could see in herself with these pronouns.
And honestly, if you want to keep this related to the NSpidR AU (or even my Eriverse in general), Hobie and Lizze Natividad would be the perfect people to have Eve realize it is an object with life and not an object with purpose kind of it/its user.
Hobie is in the same boat as Rin, using they/it pronouns to piss people off but to also break free from gender constructs and confinement. It is about being rebellious and messing with people, but also having freedom and power over your own identity.
Similar to Eve, Hobie's gender performance is like literally a performance. Although Hobie performs for themself while Eve performs for other people. That is a thing that Eve will have to learn to change over time.
Lizzie at this point in life is probably still a Psychonaut, same with Raz, and since Eve knew Raz and they reconnected together after the revolution, I can see Eve getting to know Lizzie a bit.
Lizzie going by It/They pronouns with he/him sprinkled in (very rarely she/her) is something that Eve would take interest in. Especially for the reasoning as to why Lizzie would add it/its to they/he/she pronouns.
That is when I can see Lizzie using an example I love, where it tells Eve that using "it" isn't always derogatory and has a lot of built in love and admiration into the pronoun. It's just hard to see if you aren't looking for it.
When someone talks about the sunset or moon saying 'It's beautiful" or that people will talk about a stuffed animal or childhood home they loved and use "it" as a default shows that even though those things are being described by it/its pronouns, the love is still there.
Those things are more than just objects, they are moments of love, cherished memories. Not all of them are that. Sometimes they are just a part of time that happened, but it helped shaped who you are even if you don't realize it. They have no real purpose but to make life full of... well, life.
Lizzie would tell Eve about how the smalls things can seem big, and the big things seem small. They shift and change, sometimes they don't have any purpose to life, but you can just make up a purpose for them to be important. It doesn't matter, as long as it is something that makes you happy, confident, safe, anything positive really.
All of this, seeing so many different reasons as to why some people would use it/its pronouns or a combination set, would allow Eve to figure out her own reason for using them.
I'm not sure exactly what its reasons would be. Probably reclaiming its own identity again but this time in a positive way that is built on introspection and not built on other people's potential view of it.
There is definitely something a lot more complex going on underneath everything. Stuff that Eve might never be able to truly get into words, so it would be hard for me to put it into words (which is how I get when I have to explain my own use of it/its pronouns sometimes), but no matter what, Eve is using these pronouns because they make it happy and more comfortable with itself.
I can even see Eve coming out to the public as using she/it pronouns. Maybe it would be another performance, but a performance that Eve would want to see herself, and not one made specifically for other people. This performance wouldn't be trying to get people onto its level, or trying to get down to people's level, it's not one to make them understand, but one for people to see it as it is.
Otherwise, I see Eve at least letting its friends, family, and loved ones using she/it for her like how Zuke and Tatiana were using them. It would at least no longer be a hidden aspect of her personality when it comes to the people it cares about, and once it sees the acceptance it got (especially from Mayday and Haym), it would feel even more comfortable and confident in its choice to come out fully.
Because I'll be honest, it's one thing to dress in a way different from your gender than it is to be referred to as different from your gender. At least for me it is. I primarily present femininely, but I like trying to go by any pronouns, especially they/it pronouns.
I can see Eve being the opposite, where she does not feel any dysphoria or apprehension when it comes to its visual expression, but there is always a slightly weird feeling when verbally being called something you don't think you truly are. Even if you do think you are truly they/them, it/its, she/her, anything, hearing it is different from seeing it, which is different from visually showing it, to just acting in a different manner.
All of this is complex stuff that Eve has definitely had to go through. Some things easier than others (like her visual self), and it still has lots to work on, but at least it is on the right track for progress.
Anyway, thanks for making me think of this! I love that I was blatantly for she/her exclusive Eve at first, but now I think I changed my own mind lol. I might start referring to Eve with she/it pronouns. Love it when I can make propaganda for my own mind hehe (it always happens too! Because I try to make someone else's view of a character valid, even if it isn't my own cup of tea, and then I just love what I came up with and just start using it too lol :3)
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For some reason I think it would be rad if [IBN] played "unconventional" instruments
like an electric fan harp (aka a fan made to act like a guitar) or using CRT TVs to make sound or a barcode scanner
kinda like this video
https://youtu.be/A0VYsiMtrNE
I've seen this before! But only on tumblr! Thank you so much for sending me their youtube channel!!!
But honestly, yea, I can see them doing that. Especially since Carna does not see being in a band as a life career and just as a hobby so fae would be having a lot of fun with this instead of doing anything legitimate and conventional.
And honestly I can see Synthia having the same mentality. He would probably be so fucking done with traditional music (especially full EDM) and want to just have fun.
Both of those two have enough money that they never have to actually work hard to make it (Synthia already made his own wealth, that was not something Sharon kept from him because she didn't want any ties after he grew up, so all the money he made is his and his alone. And Carna comes from a family who would absolutely help faer no matter what so no need to ever get a job because faer family is so family-oriented that it could be seen as toxic and enabling for someone like Carna).
And then Riko I can see as having some money from family, but not nearly as rich as Carna and Synthia, as well as not having as much of a musical background as the other two so wouldn't have burnout from traditional style music. However, she absolutely is a little silly and would love playing "instruments" like that!
So yea, I can honestly see these three playing music like that video! Especially since Carna already would have some mechanical know-how since Neon would make sure all his kids have the basic ability to fix themselves (or at least know what is wrong with them and can communicate that. I would say that only Purl-Hew, and possibly Eloni and Rin, would actually know how to fix the rest of 1010 and siblings other than Neon J or special mechanics on stand by if they break down. But hey! Carna would know how to make a makeshift guitar out of a CCTV lol).
I’ve had this crack Eriverse AU idea with a Yinu ↔️Satoru, Peni ↔️ Suguru, and Shoko ↔️ Noir? swap AU… and I would like to hear what you think of it!/gen
Gona be honest with you, when I first saw that comment/ask thing earlier in the week, I thought it was for a Yinu and Peni swap, as tumblr cut off the full ask before it got to the JJK part, and so I immediately started thinking of things like Yinu killing her dad with plants and Peni being a prodigy techno kid or something.
But um, yea! I like that swap! I didn't look back at those original asks (i think it was multiple) that were sent before answering this!
Though, I honestly don't like to change ages all that much in swap AUs, unless it is something that can't be avoided, so it would be hard to have a swap AU that you are suggesting.
However, I am not totally against it!
Therte would have to be a MAJOR overhall to the universe though to make this happen. Since Yinu and Peni would probably be a bit older and possibly Noir being younger, while SaShiSu being younger overall in this AU.
Mainly I say an overhaul becauise Catherine was friends with Miguel and the whole Nueva York thing is pretty important to SaShiSu's story (and Peni's story).
Hmmm... I don't think I have the brain power to think of this all that much at the moment. But it definitely is a thinker! I think more would have to be swapped around in this case than just these three pairs for this kind of AU to work (I mean i could just make it work but I like thinking about this stuff way more intensly)
OH! YOu know what would be cool? Having Mama be in Miquel's place having Yinu be like a prodigy at controlling her powers, liek a shining example of what Nueva York (or whatever it would be called) could be for others!
Yinu ends up having a lot more freedom because she is Catherin's daughter and has pretty good control over her powers (other than killign her dad by accident) and she makes friends somehow with Peni and Noir!
The three do some shady business shit somehow, idk what, maybe selling flowers that Yinu makes and it turns out to be poisonous without Yinu realizing and she ends up killing people, or at least harming enough people, that the outside world can't ignore and so Catherine has to fully confine Yinu and her friends.
All the while Satoru is being paraded around as a prodigy violinist or something like that who plays for the Gojo family and NSR. Blue has friends with Shoko and Suguru who help with creating beats and stuff, but are very much more behind the scenes.
Instead of Neon J being the one to care the most about Yinu, it would be DJSS caring about Satoru and friends. So possibly a change in NSR is needed as well. But that is a later information piece to deal with that I can't process now!
But yea, I think this could be a very interesting AU idea! There was probably better ideas in the initial asks you sent, but this is what I got right now. Very cool idea, and can absolutely work with a bunch of tweaking (like I don't even know what happens to Miguel in this universe, possibly he goes to work for NSR instead? idk).
