#not sci

/nf obv, we're just curious

I actually kind of go into that here (link)! From the post:

"Systems can be very, very complex! A great example of this is like how littles in systems shouldn't be treated exactly like children, because littles *aren't* just.. Biological children. They're their own thing! Sometimes a little can handle adult chores like taxes or things like that!"

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"Why should relationship dynamics that aren't a factor with real bodies define alters? Another good example, should sentient animal/anthropomorphic animal alters be able to be in relationships with human/humanoid alters, or is that equivalent to bestiality? Say alters have a different "physical age" (their form in that moment, like those who appear to be littles but aren't) from their partner (say an ageless alter or older alter), is that equivalent to CSA? If neither of those are considered their bodily counterpart, why does in-sys incest have a difference here?"

Basically it's a pretty nuanced take. We have a Ciel alter whos dating a Sebastian alter (while Ciel still looks like his canon counterpart, he's one of the older alters in my system, been around over 10 years!)

So long as it's not abusive (non consensual) or inherently predatory, I think there should be nuance. System littles are a complex topic overall!

Of course, with how Tumblr can be, I think those should be more... Hinted at rather than bluntly said, if that makes sense. (I don't want tumblr getting me on sight)

So this is a super complicated topic, but I'll try to explain as best I can!

Systems can be very, very complex! A great example of this is like how littles in systems shouldn't be treated exactly like children, because littles *aren't* just.. Biological children. They're their own thing! Sometimes a little can handle adult chores like taxes or things like that!

In a similar vein, Syscest, or In-sys incest is also a dynamic that reflects that!

A good example I have is actually two alters, one in my system and one in my partner system. A Scaramouche fictive and a Raiden Ei fictive (not Raiden Shogun). Technically, they're a creator/creation dynamic, but also a mother/son dynamic, depending on who draws art for them. Initially, they didn't start of on good terms because of their own exo-memories, but they slowly overcame those issues and actually began to bond outside of their canon and ended up just.. becoming a romantic couple. They do make jokes about their dynamic too, such as Scaramouche being a "literal motherfucker" (LOL), but it's not a super defining aspect of their relationship.

But to add in, this is not the only way one can be in such a relationship! Sometimes, there's not even any acknowledgement of the "incest" aspect, but because artists usually designate it as such, it can be stigmatizing and isolating for syscest couples who don't really consider themselves family, or even found family dynamics, etc!

Systems can also form these dynamics in a safer way to be able to cope with trauma of real incest!

And sometimes, it just happens within a system, because it's kind of just... arbitrary? Being in a relationship with someone in your own system, fictive, factive, or otherwise, why should their relationships be strictly defined by something that doesn't exactly exist outside of their own brain?

Why should relationship dynamics that aren't a factor with real bodies define alters? Another good example, should sentient animal/anthropomorphic animal alters be able to be in relationships with human/humanoid alters, or is that equivalent to bestiality? Say alters have a different "physical age" (their form in that moment, like those who appear to be littles but aren't) from their partner (say an ageless alter or older alter), is that equivalent to CSA? If neither of those are considered their bodily counterpart, why does in-sys incest have a difference here?

If it's not abusive and if it's not bodily incest, I don't see the innate issues with alters who happen to have this arbitrary "family" label put on them when it doesn't always apply or isn't equivalent to IRL incest.

The TLDR is basically there was a minor mod on the team that broke the blog rules and answered NSFT asks and it made a LOT of people uncomfortable (including me, which is why I made this blog!)

A bit more on the situation I think Mod Hydor also got a call out post made on it(?) because there was a situation where its boyfriend(?) used NSFW pronouns in a SFW, family friendly server and it defended its boyfriend. It got sorted out tho because it added it was always uncomfortable with a minor mod on the blog answering NSFT asks. I'm not sure on the whole situation with its boyfriend, but that's probably a bit more personal and complicated. I'd say don't judge Hydor inherently for its boyfriend's behavior!

It seems that florence decided to make one last turn south, meaning I am no longer in danger of it.