#norsereply

@toccatainfsharpminor

Yes, ofcourse. Swedish and English being closely related languages and geographically near eachother (the british isles that is) also make it so we already, no loan needed, have alot of shared names and names that are said differently but with the same original origin

This is how it also is with swedish and like. The rest of the north germanic languages too. Rarely are there any names which unique to one of the languages, but instead often the languages have the same names, but said slightly differently.

Swedish version of George, is i believe Jörgen.

The two names may look different, but if you know the orthography one will realise they are said in a very similiar manner

But that ofcorse was the problem for swedes a hundred years ago trying their hands on some english language name trends. They had never heard anyone say these names, so the connection between Jörgen and George remained obscure. And, that even the spelling George in any manner snuck into swedish is in itself a big sign of loan from written text.

Anyway anyway, the spoken effect was similiar to people giving their kids Irish names without knowing how to say them. That is, the end result in swedish was often wildly of base of the actual name, in a manner only achieved from reading English using swedish ortoghrapy rules

@anarchotolkienist​

reagerade också på det! var typ därför jag hajade till och bah

“det här ser ut som en annons skriven av en extremt stressad person”

Very Valid Mood

@easterlingwanderer

One time, around this time off year, back when i was a teenager, my school class went to a school trip to tuscany, italy.

The temps were perhaps. Hmmm. We sometimes felt the need to put on sweater, but otherwise we mostly wore bare legs and arms.

Its was perhaps. 18-22 C? Sometimes it rained, but it was warm rain (very rare concept in sweden). Anyway, the weather was mostly like the average weather during swedish summer, but with warmer rain.

ANYWAY, not only were all the Italians dressed indoors like they were dying from the cold (wearing what we would wear indoors during winter. They did NOT wear as much we wear during winter outdoors tbf)

Then we, to THE ABSOLUTE HORROR, of on looking Italians teenagers of the same age as us, just bathed in the ocean happily.

Bathing in may and not dying from it, is like. One of many swedes greatest joy. So we were like. This is awesome!!

@kirschteins-delivery-service

Yeah, it make sense you would have similiar ways in norway. With children, do you mean younger than 14 year old?

(the reason it was 14 year old was because the swedish church has konfirmation at 14 btw. So, when they done that, they were considered old enough to be sent away from home)

My maternal grandma got sent away in what must have been the 1920s like that btw. She HATED it i must say though. I mean i joke around about it, but for many of the ones in the early 20th century (who were the generations who spoke out against this custome and made it stop) it was really really rough and they got treated really badly. Beaten, abused etc etc.

My grandma was sent to a fäbod to herd and milk the cows in Ångermanland. I assume it was far away from home, because thats kinda the point of the fäbod. My grandma HATED it. Now tbf many who worked at fäbodar at that time liked it, because they were far away from the village and parents, with people the same age as them watching cows during summer. Many therefore had cheerful memories at working in fäbod as a teenager.

My grandma was NOT among them.

Then for her first wages, that she gotten at the fäbod and I think working as a piga in other places too, she bought a bike. Her brother had a bike, and she had dreamt to get one for herself as well. Now, a bike was actually a very sensible thing in 1920S Norrland. The jobs were getting fewer and fewer so to have a bike to easier reach them was a good idea!

Now grandma also just wanted to be able to meet friends, dance, get out of the house and so on as any 15 year old but, still a good buy!

Her father though, born in 1880, and who was a very tyranical and abusive father, got furious, said that: "women should not HAVE bikes!" and took her bike from her and threw her out of the house.

Now, she lived in a small house with her 10 siblings in North - West Ångermanland. Like. He basically threw her into the forest. I dont think they even lived in a village. Basically, he did not only make her homeless, he threw her out into a sub arctic forest with no other human dwellings than her parents house within a walking distance.

So, then my grandma sneaked around outside the house, her mother snuck out and gave her food and so on. She did this for a while. Then she travelled to stockholm with some friends. Maybe she was 16 now? and started to do different working class jobs in stockholm, while they moved between flats who were going to be demolished in central stockholm (in gamla klara)

Anyway, somehow she survived all that. But talking about how rough it could be, i thought i would tell my maternal grandmas story, which she told me btw when i was like 5 for the first time. She told all her grandchildren this story. Often. I think she wanted to tell us, that like.

"this was how horrible things used to be. I am so pleased you dont need to do things like that when you are children"

That, and I suspect she just needed to talk about this with people....

@count-di-luna

True, those too is important for that absolute silly european 17th century fashion look ™

Livrustkammarens archive of royal clothing, which are who put up all those pics of Gustav II Adolfs clothing at wikimedia, ofcourse also own SEVERAL frilly collars etc of him. He took lace collars, and frilly details seriously

So seriously that below is the very shirt he died in at the battlefield. And it too got frills!

Going to battle WITHOUT wearing a frilly shirt!? Unthinkable!

Most. Have. FRILLS

(looking at the preserved clothing of Gustav II Adolf, i really feel like the 17th century needed a frills + embroidery + lace intervention, pfthhshaha)

Source:

Pics found here https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Clothing_of_King_Gustav_II_Adolf

making a seperate post so more can see this convo

and i reply @notes-from-a-human

@coastgods