If I remember right Lucelion's mother had died of an "illness" as rumors say. What if she was still around would he had been raised different? I don't remeber much if you did talk about her or what her views about her marriage and having her son.
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Lucelion would not have been raised differently had his mother lived. I havenât talked much about Gignolia, but Lucelion takes after her a great deal: no one can be quite sure either character is in possession of a personality or would even know what one looked like if it slapped them across the cheek. Theyâre both soft-spoken, dutiful, apathetic, and rather weak-willed. It would be difficult to tell from the outside that she didnât care much for her husband or that she cared deeply about their child.
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So, Luc does like brii but is crap at showing it. Is Luc's father similar to his son in being self regulated? I'm really loving the au where brii and Luc get married.
Absolutely! Iâve explained more in depth below the read-more if anyone is interested.
And thank you for the compliment! Iâm glad youâre enjoying the AU. (Obviously, I wouldnât draw an AU I wasnât fond of, but Iâm particularly enamoured of this âun so itâs always nice to hear that other people are enthusiastic too ASDGLKAJSDGKL)
To more fully answer your question: as I see it, the only difference between Lucelion and Nocteriil in their self-regulation is their use of two different strategies to achieve (superficially, at least) the same goal of monitoring their psychological states and minimising the internal effects of external stimuli. Lucelion unwittingly engages in âexpressive suppressionâ wherein he tries to hide, hinder, and halt his emotional reactions, expressions, and behavioursâitâs why he comes across as stone-cold dead. Nocteriil uses whatâs called âcognitive reappraisalâ; so where Lucelionâs unconscious strategy is reactive to the emotion (i.e., something happens âLucelion feels a knee-jerk emotion â he then forcibly curbs the knee-jerk emotion), Nocteriilâs strategy is reactive to the stimuli (i.e., something happens â Nocteriil feels a knee-jerk emotion â Nocteriil rethinks the way in which heâs mentally approaching the situation that made him feel that emotion).Â
Iâll give you an example situation where the two strategies as I understand them come into play: Brii, the betrothed, is âabductedâ. Both father and son eventually learn that she, in all actuality, merely ran away with the man (âelopedâ, rather). Lucelionâs a hot mess of anxiety, sorrow, and anger, but Nocteriil is just plain furious. While Lucelion will do everything in his power to prevent the expression and the experience of whatever heâs feelingâhe just wants those emotions to go awayâNocteriil, meanwhile, is playing mental chess. Nocteriilâs instinctive interpretation of the situation is that this is an affront to his family and to his familyâs public reputation. This makes him incredibly angry, but he reappraises the situation: this is actually a golden opportunity. At the moment, the bride-to-be owes him nothing. And someone who owes you nothing is someone who is difficult to control. But running away was an act that carries with it consequences⌠consequences that he has the social power to both induce and alleviate if he so manipulates the situation and its participants adroitly. Brii may owe him nothing now, but in what state will she find her home, her family, her reputation, or their reputation upon her inevitable return? Who else could save her or ruin her but he? A compliant daughter-in-law who owes him her and her familyâs very survival is an advantage he cannot let slip by. This âabductionâ is actually a blessing in disguise. Anger managed.
Nocteriil assiduously regulates himself because he perceives the total control of his body (of his emotions, of his ânatural bodily urgesâ, of his magic, all that jazz) to be a demonstration of the very sort of power he covets: discipline and mastery. As a character who is also uncommonly secretiveâhe only wants people to know what he wants them to knowâhe perceives his self-regulation to be a tool with which he can exploit others and prevent his own exploitation.
(oh goodness I apologize in advance for the slew of questions, I'm just very curious about Nocteriil.) What are his feelings towards Elenwen (if they've met)? Also, does he consider Skyrim/the mainland to be below him or less beautiful than the Isles? What are his feelings towards nords? Did he fight in the great war? Does he specialize in destruction magic, or is he comfortable using traditional weapons like swords/spears?
Donât worry about sending me a slew of questions! Â Honestly, it makes me SO happy that people care and are interested! Â
Iâve put it under a read-more so I can answer more thoroughly without taking up all the dashboard.
What are his feelings towards Elenwen (if theyâve met)?
Nocteriil believes that Elenwen shows promise in her position as First Emissary, but thinks that she cares far too much about hosting parties than she ought. He realises, however, that as First Emissary it is her duty to make nice with the powerful in the province. Â In that regard, he is willing to excuse her frivolity.
Also, does he consider Skyrim/the mainland to be below him or less beautiful than the Isles?
Iâm sure any Altmer who was born and raised in the Isles would look upon Skyrim as the cesspool of Tamriel.  Itâs drab, dreary, and dullâin complete and utter contrast to the lush, vibrant, warm home they are so used to!
What are his feelings towards Nords?
As far as Skyrimâs people are concerned, theyâre less than dirt to him.  Any slobbering Altmeri peasant in the Isles looks like a prince compared to the natives!
Did he fight in the great war?Â
He personally did not, no. Â He did contribute to the war effort, however, both publicly, financially, and by supplying soldiers taken from his own standing army.
Does he specialize in destruction magic, or is he comfortable using traditional weapons like swords/spears?
In his youth, Nocteriil was given military training. Â I headcanon that this is part and parcel of being a nobleman, however, and does not indicate a taste for war or weapons. Â (Iâve derived this from Nithardâs accounts of the leisure activities of the noblemen under Louis the German, King of the Eastern Franks, in the 9th century.)
Nocteriil vastly prefers magic. Â (His son, by way of contrast, is far more athletically-inclined than he ever was.) Â His family has always been renowned for their powerful intellect and unmatched magical ability and he falls perfectly into that mould. Â He specialises in Destruction magic, specifically lightning, for which he has an unhealthy affinity.
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As Nocty is more of a silent character, is there anything else we could really learn about him? I meant this more as me wanting to learn more about his character
There is not much to Nocteriilâs character. Â I do not mean that in a cruel way, so allow me to explain from the beginning.
Nocteriil is the patriarch of one of Alinorâs most powerful families.* Â It is said that the family can trace itâs proud lineage all the way back to its humble beginnings in the Merethic Era. Â The familyâs ascendancy through the centuries is largely due to the cumulative efforts of each Progenitor who has made it their duty to advance the cause of their blood and birth. Â As Progenitor in a long line of Progenitores, Nocteriil is not only the head of his family, he is also the embodiment of it.
As the embodiment of his family, Nocteriil is at once selfish and altruistic because the desires he wishes to gratify are at once his own and that of his family.  (I mean family in the sense of all members, both living and dead.  Iâm thinking of the unit rather than its individual parts.)  As Progenitor, his familyâs interests are his interests, their desires his desires, their designs his own.  Nocteriil has no character in some respects, he is the family, past, present, and future.Â
With all this in mind, there is not much to learn about Nocteriil the individual. Â All that he does is for âthe good of the familyâ and in that regard, Nocteriil can be particularly ruthless, unyielding, and utterly unemotional. Â Like those who came before him, he has a powerful intellect and excels at magic. Â He prefers the School of Destruction and it was a great disappointment to him that his boy did not inherit his talent and love of lightning.
Sorry to blather on, but as a last side-note: this exposition sheds some light on Lucelionâs own behaviour (namely, why he is so incredibly dull).  Since early childhood, Lucelion has been groomed to take on his fatherâs duties as Progenitor.  As the future head of the household (which I am here using as synonymous with family), Lucelionâs life is not his own to live.  His desires are immaterial, his needs inconsequential, his individuality insubstantial.  He will lead the collective; he will be the collective.  And all this means that to a certain degree, Lucelion has grown up with the understanding that all that he does will affect the family for better and for worse, for the future and retrospectively.  This elucidates his breeding, his upbringing, and his unhealthy fixation with fulfilling his duty-destiny to be the Embodiment of Perfection (as mentioned in this post). Â
*I count Nuntiusâ family as having the greatest de jure power amongst the nobility and Nocteriilâs as having the greatest de facto power.
Could you explain more about what songs from the soundtrack fit which part of Brii's life? Does it just cover what you wrote?
Sure thing!
Itâs a bit hard to explain, however, because there isnât a one-to-one ratio between the songs and the events of her story. Â
The playlist isnât so much her story at face-value as it is a representation of her story. Â Itâs as if the entirety of her story took place one night at a ball. Â
What Iâll do is Iâll list the songs and then tell you who and/or what I think about. Â Hopefully thatâll shed some light on things.
Additionally, Iâm not sure if 8tracks shuffles the playlist? So this is the intended order of the songs.Â
Hereâs a link to the playlist if you would like to read and listen.
Procession of the Nobles (Rimsky-Korsakov) & The Nutcracker (Tchaikovsky)
Entire cast. Â Entrance to the ball. Â As a middle class Altmer, Briisebrom and her family would be among the first to enter with little to no fanfare. Â I envision the entrance of important NPC players (e.g.: Elenwen), but the most important (i.e.: Lucelion and his father, Nocteriil) enter last. Â The attendees mingle and begin to dance.
Iâd say this is like Briisebromâs backstory: things are being set in motion.
Suite from Carmen (The Aragonaise)Â (Bizet)
Briisebrom.  Keeping with the original story of Carmen, I imagine a flamenco.  This can be done either solo, with other women, or with a male partner.  I can never decide.  Either way, itâs meant to be sensuous.
This doesnât really have a storyline equivalent, but I think it speaks more of Briisebromâs character as someone who acts a bit outside the social norms for Altmer society.  In Prosper MĂŠrimĂŠe's Carmen, the title character says, âce que je veux, câest ĂŞtre libreâ (basically: I want to be free).  I think this reflects Briisebromâs own desires.
Hungarian Dance (Brahms), Jazz Suite (Shostakovich), and Lachian Dances (JanĂĄÄek)
Entire cast. Â The ball gets properly under way.
I view these songs as Briisebromâs adventures with her Nord lovers.  I can never quite get the ordering right, but Brahmsâ dance is so upbeat and lively that I think it ought to go first.  Shostakovichâs suite is the first song to even have a hint of melancholia and I think it marks her realisation of the finality of what she has done (e.g.: she can never see her family again if she wishes to remain free).  I put JanĂĄÄekâs dance last because I think that it makes a good segue into the more sinister music later on in the playlist  This is the point where Briisebrom realises she isnât on a grand adventure, she is still fleeing.
Lucelion & Briisebrom. Â These are the first songs which make me think specifically of Lucelion. Â Whereas the other songs make me think of Briisebrom and Lucelion within the context of the ball and other dancers, I think of these songs as belonging to Lucelion & Briisebrom alone. Â
Saint-SaĂŤnsâ Bacchanale is to Lucelion what Bizetâs Aragonaise is to Briisebrom: I think it speaks more about his character and his love for Briisebrom rather than a particular event.  Sometimes sensuous, sometimes sweet, sometimes fierce, I think it captures his emotional range quite well.  When I hear Rimsky-Korsakovâs Scheherazade, I think of Lucelionâs pursuit and capture of Briisebrom.  When you hear the trumpet and the trombone, thatâs the moment. Â
Masquerade Waltz (Khachaturian)
Briisebrom & Lucelion. Â Quite frankly, this is the song that inspired the whole playlist. Â
The music itself is emblematic of the play for which it was written.  Masquerade by Mikhail Lermontov is a tale of jealousy, murder, insanity, and deceit.  Khachaturianâs music reflects all these moments: the music is beautiful, but at the same time ominous.
I put this song here at this exact point because this is the part of the story where Briisebrom is starting to realise just how little freedom and agency she has. Â She realises all she was doing was buying time, putting off the inevitable rather than stopping it.
Aleko (Grishko) & Dance of the Knights (Prokofiev)
Briisebrom, Lucelion, and Nocteriil.  The slow, determined pacing of Aleko cues Nocteriilâs entrance, and Prokofiev's Dance of the Knights emphasises his looming presence in the narrative. Â
I see these two songs as related to the previous Scheherazade: they both are linked to Briisebromâs capture and her experiences afterwards.
Danse Macabre (Saint-SaĂŤns)
Briisebrom and Nocteriil.Â
Iâll leave it there for fear of ruining my own story prematurely. Â If youâve read this far, then thank you so much for your interest. Â ;w; Â It really means so much to me and I canât express it enough. Â I hope this answers your question!