narnia adaptation where Aslan never appears or speaks in real form but there are carvings of the Lion on sword hilts, tapestries, jewelry, etc. at crucial plot points when the characters are making choices, seeking spiritual guidance or safety. as a symbol. maybe also for secretly indicating faith for Telmarine Narnians under Miraz (like Caspian) when narnian history/culture could not be publicly shared or practiced.
kind of taking away religionâs complete control of the narrative while still having it be crucial to the plot and a beautiful thing
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Tried my best to find that post but no luck, I guess it's just internet debris now :((
Worry not, I'm going to write everything I remember in this post
We start with these two. Parallels aside, they didn't have to line up in either of these scenes, they did. This is what they do. They are a group. And no matter how interesting each of their individual personalities are, their meanings are diminished, if not non-existent, without the others' to contrast them.
Coming to the topic of body language, have you noticed how they stand in their lines?
Their positions always have a meaning. In the ruins of Cair Paravel, they stand in the positions of their respective thrones.
Entering Aslan's How, they let Caspian lead the way. Out of the four of them, Peter's in the lead, Lucy and Susan are in the middle although not exactly in sync, and Edmund brings up the rear. When Caspian stops, the Pevensies' gait changes- they are royal again- Peter and Susan start and are followed by Lucy and Edmund.
Contrast this with when they are entering Cair Paravel. Edmund leads, torch in hand. Peter let's the girls follow and is at the end. Doesn't it seem they have an unspoken system for every situation they are in? With a distinction between when they're just siblings and when they're Kings and Queens? Notice how there's no "Susan, you're on my foot!" or "stop shoving!" here.
The last one is interesting because their pairing within the line changes. Uptil now, it's usually Peter-Lucy and Susan-Edmund or Peter-Edmund and Susan-Lucy. This Peter-Susan and Edmund-Lucy pairing is a rarity. The older ones are being barred from Narnia, while the younger ones are told they have more to learn. This changes their usual balance.
Now, let's talk about their 'roles', spoken or unspoken, how they let things be done by the ones who are 'supposed' to do them.
Edmund is the first to enter the ruins of Cair Paravel, and he's the first at this gate, yet he doesn not open it. Susan is second and is followed by Peter. Peter is the one to open the gate and he does it only once Lucy is joined them. High King Peter takes charge here.
At the stone table, note that Lucy and Susan are in the middle. The boys stand at a respectful distance while the girls approach the table, symbolic of their significance years ago when it cracked. Although Susan was there too and shed just as many tears, Lucy- Aslan's darling daughter- is the one to touch it.
Let's go back to the endings of the adventures. In lww, notice how Lucy and Peter are leaning towards each other, notice how Edmund and Susan are a little to the side, notice there's a wider gap between Susan and Lucy. (I will never shut up about the Pevensies' relationships with each other, especially the difference between Peter-Lucy and Susan-Edmund but one post at a time). When they leave Narnia, they do it together and they do not look back.
In pc, they leave one by one, only when prompted to do so. Notice how this time Susan and Peter are huddled together.
Leaving Narnia in Votdt is interesting. For the first time the Pevensies (even though there are only two of them) are not side by side. I see this as symbolic to their growth. In the end, Peter and Susan- the ones who usually disagreed on everything- found a way to stick together, whereas Edmund and Lucy-who have a hard time believing in their own individuality- finally believe they are not in the shadows and grow into their unique, individual selves.
Finally, we talk about the Pevensies' line when they're missing a person. I've been thinking a lot about this ever since @puddleglumms sent me this ask.
In the first one, Edmund is right in front of them. Even though their line is incomplete, they are still a group. Notice how close Peter, Susan and Lucy are standing. Contrast it with the second picture. Edmund is in danger, he could be dead for all they know, at least two of them blame themselves for losing him. Notice the distance between them now.
This brings us to the last part. Three of them line up with no hint of a fourth. This is a specially tailored nightmare for Lucy where she is no longer a part of the group but it is creepy for us to see this too. It just seems so wrong.
Imagining them lining up once they're dead and realising they're missing one is heartbreaking. Do you think they'd stand as close as they used to? Do you think Edmund will see Lucy and Peter close to each other and miss his companion? Do you think Lucy will be jarred by the absence of the only other female in their group? Do you think Peter will be horrified to know he's the only older one here?
There are so many more instances I can include in this but then the post would be wayyyyy longer. This covers most of what I wanted to say.
In my mind, there is a key similarity between Peter and Caspianâs humility, and what that means for them as Kings, though that humility is shown with a very specific difference: Caspian is asked whether he feels sufficient to become king, but Peter is told that he will be.
Hereâs Caspianâs exchange with Aslan:
ââWelcome, Prince,â said Aslan. âDo you feel yourself sufficient to take up the Kingship of Narnia?â
âI-- I donât think I do, Sir,â said Caspian. âIâm only a kid.â
âGood,â said Aslan. âIf you had felt yourself sufficient, it would have been proof that you were not.ââ
Now, as Caspian says, he is only a kid. The book describes him as being about Peterâs age (14), while the timeline says he is 13, which tells us that he is, at most, Peterâs own age, and at least, the age Peter was at his own coronation. (Though the book description doesnât disallow for him being 13, I am personally partial to taking it more literally, and thus view Caspian as being 14 in PC. The timeline is a mess, anyway, so I give myself some freedom. This is inconsequential to the greater point, but is just a general explanation of why I treat his age as open here, even though thereâs a âcanonâ answer.)
So, when Aslan crowns Caspian, he first asks him if he feels sufficient, and then applauds Caspian for his humility. The humility in question is that Caspian doesnât believe he is sufficient: i.e. enough. Thatâs the big thing Aslan requires of the people he makes stewards of Narnia: not that they themselves are enough, but that they rely on Him;Â Aslan is the High King above all High Kings, and when he appoints a King over Narnia, he is choosing not just a leader for His people, but someone who will follow.
Now, how does this apply to Peter?
Hereâs Peterâs own conversation with Aslan:
âWhen the girls had gone Aslan laid his paw -- and though it was velveted it was very heavy -- on Peterâs shoulder and said, âCome, Son of Adam, and I will show you the far-off sight of the castle where you are to be King.â
And Peter with his sword still drawn in his hand went with the Lion to the eastern edge of the hilltop. [...]
âThat, O Man,â said Aslan, âis Cair Paravel of the four thrones, in one of which you must sit as King. I show it to you because you are the first-born and you will be High King over all the rest.â
And once more Peter said nothing, for at that moment a strange noise woke the silence suddenly.â
Peter is silent through this entire exchange, though, specifically, the second time weâre told itâs because they are interrupted by Susanâs horn. During this conversation, the only insight into Peterâs thoughts is focused on his view of the castle:Â â[...] but to Peter it looked like a great star resting on the seashore.â Weâre given no reaction for what Peter actually thinks of Aslan telling him he is to be High King... however, we are told how he feels in the moments immediately following:
âFor a moment Peter did not understand. Then, when he saw all the other creatures race forward and heard Aslan say with a wave of his paw, âBack! Let the Prince win his spurs,â he did understand, and set off running as hard as he could to the pavilion. [...]
[...] Peter did not feel very brave; indeed, he felt he was going to be sick. But that made no difference to what he had to do.â
So, although the narrator doesnât tell us what Peter thinks about becoming High King, we are told exactly what he thinks and feels about the first act he is called to do under that role: he doesnât feel ready. Firstly, it doesnât occur to him that it is his duty to act until Aslan waves everybody else back, though when he understands, he runs without further hesitation. Secondly, Peter has no confidence in his own actions when he goes to fight the wolf; heâs terrified, even though he doesnât stop running. But thatâs the thing about Peter: he may not feel ready, but he will always do his duty.
Compare this to the movie scene, where Peter is given a chance to respond to Aslanâs statement:
Aslan: That is Cair Paravel, the castle of the four thrones, in one of which you will sit, Peter, as High King. You doubt the prophecy?
Peter: No. Thatâs just it... Aslan, Iâm not who you all think I am.
Aslan: [...] Peter, there is a Deep Magic more powerful than any of us that rules over all of Narnia. It defines right from wrong, and governs all our destinies: yours and mine.
Peter: But I couldnât even protect my own family!
In the movie, Peter is allowed to express those thoughts that remain internalized in the book: he doesnât feel ready, and that scares him. Yet, when asked if he doubts the prophecy, Peter says âNo,â and then when Susanâs horn sounds, Peter runs off immediately, willing to do what needs to be done. Although the scenes switch Peterâs moments of inaction and action, (holding his silence, but failing to act autonomously in the book, but speaking his fears and running in without hesitation in the movie,) both scenes tell us the same thing about Peterâs character: it doesnât matter that he doesnât feel like he is enough, because he will do what is needed, regardless.
Back to Caspian for a moment. While he may not have saved the Narnians from the Telmarines himself, at the time that Aslan asks him whether he feels sufficient, he has already been leading them for several days at least -- perhaps weeks -- even in battle. Caspian has acted as King before. And yet, when the question comes, he still feels he is only a kid: there is no way that he alone is enough. (But he is not alone; Aslan rules before him and beside him, so long as Cas will follow him.)
Peter, meanwhile, has never been King. He has led his family, yes, and done what needed to be done, but he hasnât acted as King in the way Caspian had by the same point in his story: the moment Aslan tells him he will be King. Peterâs a kid. Peterâs scared. Peter doesnât understand all that this means for him.
And in the book, Peter says nothing.
After all, Aslan didnât ask him. He told him.
But if Aslan had asked him, I feel Peterâs response would have been very much the same: Aslan asks, âDo you feel yourself sufficient?â and Peter says, âI donât think I do. Iâm only a kid.â But there is one thing I would add to Peterâs response, only because it is the thing he shows us again and again by his actions: âBut I will do it because you ask it of me.â
Peter doesnât take the role of High King without question because he believes himself to be sufficient; if Peter believed his own power was enough, he would never be King of Narnia at all. But the reason Peter doesnât question in the book is the same reason he starts running the second he hears his sisterâs horn in the movie: he will always do his duty. His silent acceptance could never be, âYes, of course, I understand completely.â Itâs him holding in his doubts, his fears, his uncertainties. Itâs the way he says, âIf you say so, then I will do it, although I cannot understand.â
Peter is duty-bound. Always. It is that quality which, in the movie, took him from âLook after the others,â to, âYou will be High King.â And though in the movie they let him question that which scares him, it never takes away from his willingness to do what needs to be done. I donât think itâs paradoxical for Peter to show us both: he has always been a man of thought as much as a man of action; hesitant but willful; wavering but faithful; humble and noble, in all he does.
When Caspian is asked whether he feels sufficient, it is not exactly the same as being offered a choice; itâs not as if he says, âI donât feel ready,â and Aslan says, âThen I wonât ask this of you.â The question is Aslan asking: he is simply asking after Caspianâs heart to rule, not his willingness to.
For Peter, this is already decided. Thereâs no question. But itâs alright, because he doesnât need the question. For all his fears, he is still willing. For his own uncertainties, his heart is already growing in Kingship.
Theyâre different boys, in different circumstances. Both are Kings. Both are only kids. And even though one is asked while the other is told, they are both willing, and it is that obedience which makes them the Kings they are.
so iâm just gathering here all of the analysis iâve read about narnia so far?? I think itâs pretty cool ngl
a note: iâm not going to hecking mention the v obvious and already explained christian allegory with aslan being jesus and edmund representing humanity and the witch being satan and all that jazz.
DISCLAIMER: absolutely none of this belongs to me except for the odd bit of prose in the edmund section
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first up, names! credit for this goes to @thoughtfox72 (you can find the original post here)
- peter means rock, which ties in well as heâs the ârockâ of the family. Itâs also a reference to good olâ st. peter- in matthew 16:18 (the bible), peter is called âthe rock upon which my church was foundedâ.
- edmund means protector, which again ties in well with his actions against the witch, but it also ties into shakespeareâs king lear. in king lear, edmund is the bastard son of the duke of glouchester, who betrays his entire family to gain power. sound familiar? yeah, i thought so too. shakespeareâs edmund is never redeemed, however, but it is a direct parallel to narniaâs edmund.
- lucy means light, and itâs pretty obvious that sheâs the light of her family, illuminating the path to aslan.
- susan, however, means lily and itâs pretty hard to figure out why thatâs so important. like yeah, lilies are typically used at funerals (which, um, pretty dark bit of foreshadowing there, mr. lewis) but like?? compared to the others, that doesnât seem deep enough. and thatâs when you realise- at the end of vodt, what does the dawn treader have to sail past to get to aslanâs country? a sea. of. hecking. lilies.
- and so the flower that susan is named for is the ones that grow on the path to aslanâs country, which is a pretty strong hint about her eventually returning to aslanâs country.
- also, if you look at the points of the compass, aslanâs country (and therefore the sea of lilies) are in the east. itâs implied that susan beginning to forget narnia started when she went to america (heading west). this is really paying a lot of attention to direction, which brings me to my next pointâŚ
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direction, and points of the compass! credit for this goes partly to @thoughtfox72 (because of the above point) but mostly to @elecktrum , from the most noble order of the table from the sword and shield, jewel and song series.
- so as was stated above, susanâs journey away from aslanâs starts with her going west, but the flowers that sheâs named for are in the east, near aslanâs country, thus signifying that she will probably return.
- as well as that, aslan gives edmund and peter the west and north (âto the great western woods, king edmund the justâ and âand to the clear northern sky, i give you king peter the magnificentâ), respectively, while susan and lucy receive the south and east (âto the radiant southern sun, queen susan the gentleâ and âto the glistening eastern sea, i give you queen lucy the valiantâ).
- edmund and peter have the directions of their enemies (to the north are the wild lands of the north, where the giants live, and to the west are the western wilds and telmar).
- susan and lucy get narniaâs âalliesâ and protection (i put allies in quotation marks as calormen isnât really an ally, but it isnât quite an enemy either)- archenland, calormen and the eastern sea.
- this highlights that the brothers are the ones who protect, and the sisters gather allies and friends (a teensy bit sexist, donât you think?).
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thereâs also a bit of character analysis!
iâll start with Peter (credit for this goes to @thoughtfox72 ) (post found here)
- so like loads of people have said that peter is boring, because he doesnât have complexity, and the heart of this boils down to the fact that c.s. lewis keeps us at a distance from peter. we donât get to see what he thinks or feels, whereas we do with the younger siblings.
- also, and this is connected to the point above, peter seemingly rushes into things without any warning (e.g. the duel with miraz, pc book canon). but honestly, itâs not that he rushes into things, itâs that we donât see his reasons for doing it. an example of this is in the prince caspian book- peter is the only one to realise that theyâre in cair paravel and he actually numbers his goddamn reasons, like itâs a slideshow or something. this, of course, tells us that heâs been thinking about it for a while, but just hasnât chosen to share it. peter keeps things close to his chest.
- peter doesnât share things that much- this even shows in his title. valiant, gentle- heck, even just are quite descriptive and specific. magnificent, on the other hand is like â??? what does it mean?" this is done on purpose, as itâs an effective way to maintain awe. heâll always meet an individualâs sense of what a great king should be because heâs left to the imagination. âHigh King Peter the Magnificent is more an idea than a person, like King Arthur.â
- but peter is a person. heâs a good king, but still a person. examples: when they have to vote on which way to go (book pc), he doesnât want to vote until trumpkin says that itâs his duty. basically the first thing he says to caspian (again, book) is âi havenât come to take your place, you know, but to put you in itâ. though heâs the one in charge, itâs his duty, not something he seeks.
- this is also shown during acts of violence. think about it- most of peterâs most famous acts (save the last battle) are to do with violence- killing the wolf, fighting the witch, duelling with miraz. this all emotionally affects him- he cries after killing maugrim, itâs shown that heâs pale and drawn after fighting the witch... i could go on. although heâs good at this stuff, he doesnât like it- itâs not easy for him. this ties in well with the whole seriesâ idea of kingship- âFor this is what it means to be a king: to be first in every desperate attack, and last in every desperate retreat.â- and c.s. lewis knew this. lewis had fought in the war and knew how bad it got, but he had peter do it anyway, because heâs the high king, and the hardest tasks fall to him. this, matched with peter liking to keep things to himself, is a lonely task.
- as well as that, itâs more than likely that peter wouldâve served in the war back in england as well- the timelines do match up.
- and peter has a super strong sense of duty and responsibility as well- why, at the end of prince caspian (book. again.), he tells aslan that he was leading them wrong, even though he was being pulled in opposite directions by both his sisters. heâs trying to take everything thatâs wrong onto himself, including his siblingsâ faults.
- tldr; peter is good at being a king but that doesnât mean he has to like it. heâs a good warrior and a good person but heâs been given really hard tasks and heâs trying to keep it together. he only looks perfect and boring on the surface because heâs not very open and is kept at a distance from the reader. his job is lonely, because heâs high king and thatâs what it means.
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okay. peterâs done. hopefully that make sense.
onto the problem of susan (credit for this goes to @ncfan-1 ) (find the original post here)
- to start off, hereâs a reference:
âSir,â said Tirian, when he had greeted all these. âIf I have read the chronicles aright, there should be another. Has not your Majesty two sisters? Where is Queen Susan?â
âMy sister Susan,â answered Peter shortly and gravely, âis no longer a friend of Narnia.â
âYes,â said Eustace, âand whenever youâve tried to get her to come and talk about Narnia or do anything about Narnia, she says âWhat wonderful memories you have! Fancy you still thinking about all those funny games we used to play when we were children.â â
âOh Susan!â said Jill. âSheâs interested in nothing nowadays except nylons and lipstick and invitations. She always was a jolly sight too keen on being grow-up.â
âGrown-up, indeed,â said the Lady Polly. âI wish she would grow up. She wasted all her school time wanting to be the age she is now, and sheâll waste all the rest of her life trying to stay that age. Her whole idea is to race on to the silliest time of oneâs life as quick as she can and then stop there as long as she can.â
âWell, donât letâs talk about that now,â said Peter. âLook! Here are lovely fruit trees. Let us taste them.â
âThe Last Battle, page 135
- please notice who speaks. tirian asks, peter gives a very tense, very abbreviated explanation (which probably means he doesnât intend to take it further than that). however, eustace, polly and jill jump in and defame her to tirian, despite the fact that what sheâs been doing on earth is very clearly none of their business. lucy, edmund and digory donât speak at all.
- iâd like to point out that the four people who knew her best contributed nothing to her defamation, and that three of them are pointedly silent.
- now, onto the three that did talk.
- how well did they know susan? thereâs no canon evidence (book, movie, or otherwise) that any of them interacted with her.
- eustace was susanâs cousin, yes, but up until vodt she thought he was an annoying brat and we only know that he made friends with edmund and lucy- itâs not sure if he made friends with the rest of the pevensies as well.
- polly was digoryâs friend, but we donât know when she was introduced to the pevensies- if it was before susan âforgotâ narnia, or after. it was possibly and probably after, given that there was no mention of her at all pre-prince caspian (save the magicianâs nephew, but thatâs not the point)
- and we know for a fact that jill and eustace didnât meet until a few years after pc. we donât even know if susan and jill ever met, or if jill just knew of her.
- so there are a few questions raised. how well did eustace, polly and jill know susan? were any of them even close to her? how reliable a judge are they?
- well, eustace, jill and polly are shown to be the kind of people who, when they know that susan has received the new that theyâre dead and is being asked to identify their bodies, instead of expressing sympathy for her (she has to bury them, bury them, and they canât even express sympathy? talk about heartless), they just talk about how silly and vain she is- so no, theyâre probably not the best judges of susan pevensie.
- what this tells us is that none of the three were really interested in knowing susan. none of them really wanted to get to know her side of the story. if they treat her like that when she isnât even around to defend herself, imagine what they were like to her in person! small wonder that susan pevensie didnât confide in them.
- letâs look at the other four, the four who knew her best. her siblings and digory, who would have known her better. while none of them express sympathy for her (seriously, guys? not good), none of them gossip about her either. as mentioned above, peter gives a short explanation that is obviously meant to wrap it up and also cuts off the three gossips. also mentioned above is that the other three who knew her best say nothing. absolutely nothing.
- that might suggest they agree with the others, or, perhaps more likely, that there was a lot more going on with susan that eustace, polly and jill didnât know about.
- thereâs a continuation of this, as well. everything pre-the last battle suggests that when aslan sent them back to earth for good, he wanted them to live their lives there. weâre not completely sure what aslan said to susan and peter at the end of prince caspian, but itâs probably somewhat similar to what he said to edmund and lucy (vodt):
âDearest, said Aslan very gently, âyou and your brother will never come back to Narnia.â
âOh, Aslan!â said Edmund and Lucy both together in despairing voices.
âYou are too old, children,â said Aslan, âand you must begin to come close to your own world now.â
âIt isnât Narnia, you know,â sobbed Lucy. âItâs you. We shanât meet you there. And how can we live, never meeting you?â
âBut you shall meet me, dear one,â said Aslan.
âAreâare you there too, Sir?â said Edmund.
âI am,â said Aslan. âBut there I have another name. You must learn to know me by that name. This was the very reason why you were brought to Narnia, that by knowing me here for a little, you may know me better there.â
âVoyage of the Dawn Treader, pages 215-216
- everyone who was brought to narnia, and then sent back, had a super specific purpose. aslan wanted them to live on earth, and find meaning in their lives there. he wanted them to look for him there.
- we donât know if susan tried to look for aslan on earth. we only have eustace, jill and pollyâs word for that, and as stated above, they are unreliable.
- susan did live on earth, and she tried to make a life for herself, and she made it her home and â[came] closeâ to it. she probably missed narnia, despite what she said to the three gossips. but she didnât spend her life pining after something she could never have.
- aslan told the others to live lives in their own world, and to look for him there. and what did they do? spent the rest of there lives wanting nothing more but to go back to narnia.
- aslan told them to look for him on earth, and they didnât do that. their eyes were focused on another world.
- now aslan was responsible for pulling them back to narnia one last time, but it probably wasnât meant as a reward. they were pulled back to narnia because they failed. they were brought back because aslan realised that they were never going to do what he wanted them to do, they were never going to look for him there, and so he just âbit the bullet and gave them what they wantedâ.
- in the end, it looks less like susan deserted narnia, and more like she was the only one of them who did what aslan wanted her to do.
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and edmund! credit goes to @softlyblues , from weeds spring high, and @quecksilvereyes , from Putting the Gentle Queen Back Into Her Own Narrative, A Suggestion In Ten Parts
- this analysis is directed at the viewpoint that âedmund is a traitor and betrayed them all for sweetsâ, and while that is true (to a certain extent), there are some certain points made (below)
âIâm not a very good person,â Edmund says, looking up at the clouds.
(Heâs thirteen at this point.)
âYouâre thirteen,â Susan says sensibly. Sensible Susan with her sensible shoes.
Edmund does that snotty breath that young boys are often wont to do when they think they might cry, breathing a whole cloud of stuff in through his nose. âFather Christmas didnât give me a gift,â he says, all wet and damp. âYou got two. Luce got - you know. Peter got Rhindon. I got to be Edmund the Betrayer.â
âYou were eleven,â Susan says. Sensibly.
Her brother looks to the sky and she can see how shiny his eyes are. His cheeks have freckled in the summer. âIâm not anymore and I donât feel any different to how I did then. What if Iâm not any better? What if we go back and I do the same thing again?â
But privately, Susan thinks there isnât much wrong with being cold and trusting a woman who says she will warm you up, who offers you treats to eat and drink and makes sure your fingers wonât freeze of frostbite. Susan thinks there isnât much wrong with being eleven and upset that youâve been sent away from your home, away from your parents. Not much wrong with being eleven and wondering if youâll still have a house left to come back to.
Aslan used to be someone you couldnât help but disappoint.
âweeds spring high, by softlyblue on ao3
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VII. Perhaps then, finally, I can look at the lion and tell it what I think of its inaction in the face of genocide, its inaction in the face of its people starving and dying away. Maybe then I can tell it that a nine year old boy who misses his parents like the food heâs starving for, who hasnât had sweets in a year didnât deserve to be called a traitor because he was upset and hurt and a Witch spelled him.
âPutting the Gentle Queen Back Into Her Own Narrative, A Suggestion In Ten Parts, by Quecksilver_Eyes on ao3
- iâm not sure i even have to say much after those two excerpts, but i will say this
-imagine this. youâre lonely. youâre tired. youâve been sent away from your parents, and you miss them you miss them you miss them. youâre surviving on war rations. youâre criticized by your siblings. when you enter this new world, youâre all alone. youâre cold. your sister, who went in with you, is gone. youâve been left alone. again.
- and then, a woman. a kind, gentle, beautiful woman. she gives you food to eat and a warm drink. youâre warm. finally. you havenât had anything this nice to eat since before the war. you barely remember that.
- in the end, it all comes down to this: youâre cold and hungry and tired and you miss your parents so much it hurts and thereâs a kind woman who offers you food and drink and warmth and love, and so of course you accept, because what else would you do?
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on numbers (credit to @nothinggold13 ) (post found here):
- in the bible, the number 7 means completion. this has direct parallels in the bible and narnia: 7 churches, 7 lampstands (bible) and in narnia, 7 books (although out of world rather than in-world) and the 7 friends of narnia. and so 7 is completion.
- but that leads you to think- what about susan?
- with susan, the 7 friends of narnia would have become 8.
- and do you know what the number 8 means in the bible? do you?
- new beginnings. resurrection. regeneration. new life.
- susan is the 8th. there is a hope and a plan for her.
- âYes, the Seven stand in completion, but after the end, God makes all things new.â
that's all, folks! will update if i spot any more analysis!
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caspian fled from Telmar late into the night, threatened to die by his uncle and knowing not where to go. being a medieval story, and him having little time to prepare, he probably chose a distinctive star to go in the direction of
he could have shared this information with the centaurs and animals of Narnia he lived with. they are able to grow in strength and intelligence as a group, and eventually as a people. in that approach as a leader, he gains the skill and bravery to sail through unknown waters. he enjoys the flash of morning starlight across his sword so much it isnât long before he rises early to learn the blade well.
on the Dawn Treader, he finds himself wishing he could follow its path again, knowing that it is far behind. but still, the âblue starâ that he is told to route towards stirs up a feeling of comfort. much brighter than the one he fled by, but all the same otherwise.
at seeing Lilandil in their human form, he is struck by their beauty- not just by their appearance but by how being near them makes him feel. soothed.
they smile knowingly, and trace onto his hand the place in the sky of the first star he navigated and nodded.
to which he knew this star, and only this star, could be by his side in marriage. for there was no one he held faith in more as a man, nor had cared the most for the narnian people by their mere presence.
I think the unsubtle religious themes and inconsistencies in the writing that people complain about in Narnia are kind of compelling and three dimensional when applied to the characters.
for example, caspian finds refuge in the narnians after mirazâs attempt on his life and claims to want to âreturn the kingdom to narnia.â in revenge. at what point did his pain and isolation from one personâs crime become a lack of respect for the culture he was raised in? did he feel that way before and why? did Telmar truly belong to Narnia long ago, or is it something he believes because he really only recieved kindness from the Narnian people?
itâs very possible that Aslan as a religion is influenced by that experience of kindness and not a fully reliable Wise One
and maybe the parts of the later books with more problematic Implications (*ahem degrading Tashbaan*) are the result of taking that too far believing it is charitable
but in the Dawn Treader, Caspian seems to be curious about the lords of Telmar that disappeared. does he long for that shared experience? does he regret what he did to Telmar as a culture as a brash prince who was hurting? or does he see them as fellow expats to seek out and talk to?
this is why I think heâs an interesting hero that deserved a little more focus
I think if Lilandil were given a last name it would be Pleiades (as in the cluster of stars)
in a modern setting, maybe theyâre related to its finder
in Greek mythology, they are the mountain nymph daughters of the titan Atlas (similar to how Lilandil is the child of another celestial figure holding up the heavens- Ramandu)