do you think achilles and patroclus were cousins, and what are your thoughts on using achillean for men loving men?
great question, i actually havenāt read the iliad or really delved that deep into the achilles/patroclus relationship but iāve got an expert on the phone and @nefrertiti says:Ā achilles and pat were distantly related, but it's really like, not important considering that pylades and electra/orestes were also related but distantly. Ā also, the achillean idea is super cute but doesn't really work b/cĀ
a. the relationship between achilles and patroclus already has a name, pederasty, and while it was fine in ancient greece, it probably isn't v cool nowĀ
b. assuming this is using the same kind of reasoning as sapphic it doesn't really make a lot of sense considering sappho was an iconic "sapphic" woman whereas there are a lot of examples of m/m relationships in ancient greeceĀ
c. it would have to be adopted by gay/bi men, it's not really something we can decide for themĀ