#murmurmurmur

i don't, unfortunately! i know she had a lot of real life responsibilities, a very impressive sense of duty, and a particularly loving heart that led her to what some would call sacrifice and others would call unconditional love.

i miss her and i hope the best for her. if cutting off this side of the internet is what's best for her, i'm so in favour of it!

harassed? where?

can't imagine why fans would have a problem with dream tapping his fanbase for romantic partners. there's been no previous issues surrounding that, right? right?? it's not like dream faced any prior accusations of taking advantage of power dynamics to e-fuck his fans that nearly killed the fandom, right? right?? there's obv no reason for fans to feel upset about his completely above board and normal rlship that he has with a fan he met while they were stalking him on fucking omegle, right?

is that right?

don't try to act like dream's rlship is completely innocent bc we all know what it is. personally idgaf about starfucking groupie shit when it's just fucking (something dream's also taken advantage of) but it looks foul when it's a seemingly long-term rlship during which he's been fuckboi-ing around. it looks like he's been hanging her out to dry the same way he has multiple other women. it looks like he continues to use women as and when he likes and she's just top of the pile rn.

like obviously this was a public Stan, but that was years ago, a lot of fans have come and gone, and since dream didn’t share her name (even though it’s known by people who were here), it’s considered “leaked” info. Which is why I understand fans trying to obscure it. Also the fact of her being an ex fan and people knowing how dream was treated for being parasocial to fans, now dating an ex one (even though other ccs have done it), it doesn’t mean they think it’s bad but they know how the reception would be

a lot of fans have come and gone but a lot of us are still here. if fans really consider 'any information that dream doesn't explicitly tell them' to be leaked info, i really might have to retract my objection to ppl who call this fandom a cult bc that's fucking ridiculous. that's asking ppl to deny what they see or hear in favour of dream's word. i don't understand it and i don't respect it.

i think dream's always been messy in his romantic rlships. he's been clear with some ppl about what he's willing to give and what they should expect but also very squirmy with others, leading them on or maybe it's more accurate to say: keeping them on a hook until he cuts them off. he's gotten shit unfairly for the first type of situation but i think the second has been kinda ignored bc we all want to think the best of him.

i think this is a lot of fans kinda coming to a boiling point where they can't ignore all the little things anymore and are seeing a pattern that they don't like. i understand that it's a hard line for a lot of ppl in terms of what kind of person they want to support and i think that's fine. whatever the situation is tho, it's ultimately between dream and hanna and what works for their rlship.

the thing that annoys me the most with the history change that he’s doing is that with manatreed at that information, his whole past and whatever, was all linked to his dox so there was a certain understanding why he would change the story even though it was dumb cos it would be uncovered anyways. With Hanna everything has been public, everything has been out there for years and people have been and gotten information about it since the beginning and here he is trying to make up a history when everything is out in the open and it makes it feel even more dissapointing because it’s such an obvious lie for no reason that’s just gonna cause more shit

the fucking twt thread about it is still up from 2021! like what is the point of trying to lie that away?????

it would've been so easy to say: she used to be an editor and channel manager (true). she started work for me in 2022 (true). this rlship is new but we've been friends for a few years (true).