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re: the obviously doomed character not getting a happy ending, i often think about how the only way dante was going to realistically have a happy life without terrible strife or illness is if solaria was a different place.
we get shown happy, well-adjusted dante in journey to the nu world and it's fairly obvious he's like that because the kingdom of samasama (that world's equivalent of solaria) is doing very well. both his parents are alive. nuworld!dante has the riches, good will, and confidence to broker a deal with a alleged demon sorcerer.
meanwhile, regular dante, our dante, has two major roadblocks.
the first issue is that the riot that killed his parents was lowkey inevitable. solaria was easy pickings for any roving group of bandits or any neighboring nobles. while being ultra pacifists might be acceptable if you have the money and defense to back it up, dante's parents emphatically did not.
dante's parents dying lead to regular dante with all the cuts, bruises, and chips in his shoulder from surviving that tumultuous time onward.
buuuuut. there is a slim possibility that dante's parents could've survived. they died 'in an accident' (barring translation error). so, maybe they could've toughed out the threats that came after solaria and its citizens.
which leads to the second issue.
the second issue breaks into headcanon territory, so take it with a grain of salt. i include it in pretty much all my analysis of dante because it lines up very nicely with canon and, in my opinion, it's a pretty reasonable extrapolation of canon. maybe it's a theory then? who knows... disclaimer over...
the headcanon is, essentially, that dante's gem contract, the one his ancestor made with huey way back when, concerns 'taking care of solaria' similiar to how quincy's contract is about protecting his tribe.
obviously, dante's parents were pretty staunch on not protecting solaria while they were alive because they abhorred violence. this, in turn, violated the terms of dante's gem contract. as we see with rei, violating your gem contract makes you Sick as Hell (though rei has other stuff going on too. my sickly victorian child). so, we can reasonably attribute dante's childhood sickness to his gem contract and solaria being left undefended, especially since, after his parents died and dante took over solaria and started taking care of it, at some point, dante stopped being sick. this could also be attributed to him taking his second contract with the elemental spirit of fire... so, it's not air-tight. anyhow.
actually getting to the second issue: if dante's parents didn't die, then they would continue ruling solaria and dante would continue to be sick. his parents would continue to coddle him. and solaria would probably just... be stuck in an endless conflict.
dante would basically be stuck as a caged bird, something he would come to resent because, even before his parents died, he was someone who wanted to do something. (to be clear, the illness isn't really the issue. it's the utter lack of agencyyy)
oops cant ask from iyavi lol if we get new character-centric chapters for everyone in the second part of the story like how everyone got a chapter to introduce themselves in the first part, what would you want them to be about?
oooo its hard to say bc who knows what plot progression will look like. but like, yknow, if i could ratatouille the devsā¦
ok so:
chapter 17 (rin): he and eiden fix the dark altar without merging. eiden convinces him to no longer live in the cave and maybe come live with him at the mansion with the allure of being able to watch eiden in person and help him.
and then, he gets his new outfit from settling in at the mansion.
the chapter serves as rinās rough introduction to being a person and shows little quirks about how heās been living (his diet, his routine, his relationship to the locals, etc.).
chapter 18 (edmond): soooo the knights and nobles no longer trust the grand sorcerer because of all the recent catastrophes. edmond is hard at work directing all the troops into relief efforts while also enduring the comments of his family (excluding his mom) about the common rabble taking valuable aid from those who deserve it (aka nobles).
in order to repair the reputation of the grand sorcerer (and make things hopefully a little easier on edmond), eiden volunteers to help him (and ends up being a secretary, helping him organize and schedule things and also advocate for himself + rest). some of the snootier knights get upstaged by eiden because heās willing to get down and dirty with ālowlierā activities like cleaning up rubble.
the chapter serves to show edmond that him binding himself to eiden (and standing by that connection, even when the king questions) was not a one-way street. eiden is there for edmond too and heāll do his best to help, even when it gets rough. also, i think it would be cool if the captain got a formal introduction here.
chapter 19 (yakumo): the chapter picks up with eiden helping yakumo. theyre doing a little work to help fix up damage done to his village during the catastrophes, but clean up efforts are mostly done.
during their clean up, animals keep approaching yakumo, disney princess style. it turns out, itās a lot of sentient animals (think topper or father) who have come to yakumo for help in the forest. theyāre seeking the great serpentās aid because the wood territory is in such dire straits.
even though heās reluctant to go, eiden encourages him, but still gives him space to back out. yakumo ends up going to the wood territory and like. yikes, itās bad. all mass animal and plant deaths really did a number.
yakumo and eiden manage to find a small shrine. with some effort and his farmboy + medical magic knowledge, yakumo is able to alleviate the struggles of the wood territory ecosystem. also, he gets a little snakey while accessing his epic knowledge.
his ssr is him being extra snakyā¦
the chapter makes him a little more comfortable with his yokai heritage. i think it would be fun if there was an old yokai who tells yakumo a hint about the great serpent actually being a softie and giving him a new perspective on his ancestor.
chapter 20 (olivine): you would think kuya or quincy, but neither are around during yakumo and eidenās wood territory explorationā¦ very ominous.
olivine is experiencingā¦ a lot of stress. very serenely. surprisingly serenely. people keep shouting at him, people come up to him on the streets. even though the flood repairs are swiftly underway, everyone is looking for a bit of security and hope.
eiden comes over with a shipment of aid supplies and offers to help. but, olivine refuses.
as it happens, there are a lot of upper level clergy in the water temple and the atmosphere is tense to say the least. everything has to be up to code and proper. if eiden helped or was seen helpingā¦ well, it might do more harm than good, especially with so many doubts surrounding the grand sorcerer.
the chapter teaches us more about the stresses and responsibilities olivine faces.
i think for the conflict: thereās been donations missing. the amount has slowly been increasing. accusations are immediately cast at the common people, but olivine is extremely familiar with basically all the people he has helped. he considers it part of his duty in providing honest hope and being a pillar in the community.
and it turns out, after some sleuthing by eiden and olivine, one of the stricter members of the clergy was responsible for stealing the donations.
olivine then has a speech about what it truly means to serve the people and extole the word of Klein. (which, uh, eiden has feelings about after his little revelation with huey. this probably comes up in their intimacy rooms.)
chapter 21 (rei): woah! itās rei! heās been around the light territory and its weird (but not unwelcome) that heās been in the mansion so often.
it turns out heās researching something about his condition and the key lies somewhere within the kingās castle. eiden is like āwoah! maybe aster can help?ā and rei is like ālmao. not with thisā.
anyways, it leads to eiden helping rei as a ādistractionā while rei pokes around the castle. lots of using princess passageways and catching glimpses of the royal familyās portraits.
in the end, it results in rei being intercepted by the king himself in his childhood library and uhh. feelings. rei gets what he wants free of charge. eiden feels bad for being there.
the king, not actually being an old fool, speaks indirectly to eiden about not being able to support him but not supporting his detractors either. then the king leaves.
the chapter sheds some insight on reiās background, but i canāt go too in-depth because, even tho heās in my top three, im not super familiar with all his content.
chapter 22 (kuya): the wood territory is still in a bad state. eiden accompanies olivine with shipments to the wood territory on occasion.Ā
the woods are misty and like. im imagining someone from the tribe being like āitās old knowledge that when the woods are misty, trouble is brewingā or something like that. (itās something quincy vagueposted about kuya a while ago.)
also, thereās been a monster depositing injured bodies in the town. whats that about.
similar to kuyaās original intro, eiden hears a voice summoning from the mist. he follows, calling tentatively for kuya.
he gets pretty deep before a shadow catches him and calls him āa delectably foolish young masterā. then, he falls unconscious.
he wakes up in a room he recognizes to be from the big yokai house from mystic banquet and heās all tied up.
basically, kuya tries to atticwife him because he might as well keep eiden if everything is going to end like this. (he is coping well with the loss of huey and the mass withering of the wood territory.)
eiden gets flashbacks to being with blade but this actually seems more dangerous. just as eiden makes a breakthrough with kuya about taking solace and making peace with the constant movement of time, yakumo, garu, and olivine break in. kuya laughs and acquiesces.Ā
chapter 23 (quincy): the crew (yakumo, garu, olivine, kuya, and eiden) chill out for a bit. eiden asks if kuyaās seen quincy. and kuyaās like ālol no. everythingās been falling apart. maybe he finally ran away for good from this troublesome placeā. and eidenās like š¤Ø hmmmmā¦
tl;dr, after a bunch of sleuthing, quincy starts turning up as a cryptid. odd scraps of fabric, a silhouette in the distance.
it turns out, quincy is in crazy search and rescue mode. and heās been doing it for a while. itās him, heās the monster. and heās really hard to catch!!!
topper ends up helping them.
they finally get him when heās pummeling some poachers. and kuyaās like āoh my, what a bruteā while everyone else is like āquincy, youāre gonna kill them!ā
it turns out quincy has been working himself to the bone for the forest. he hardly wants to stop working. heās all haggard and scratched up. apparently, an old mentor of his is struggling as well.
it turns out to be an old tree spirit, dying due to the flux of things in the forest. (riffing off the guymentioned in distant promise (iirc) as like a one off line. it helped quincy adapt to functional immortality as a immortal-ish being itself). quincy has been helping making preparations for it, more than it asked for really. once it dies, hopefully it will provide energy to replenish the forest. even if it doesnāt, it reminds that its end, and even the forestās end, is hardly the end of everything.Ā
once it passes, they all stand next to the tree as little sprouts erupt from the ground.
later, eiden tries to get quincy to come back with them to the tribe and quincy, for right then, is like āno. i belong out here for now. protecting them from the end.ā. and kuyaās like āhaha, how self-sacrificial. im sure they appreciate it.ā
and olivine and co. provide some helpful rebuttal about all the people heās saved. and yakumo providing some stuff about monsters not necessarily being monstrousā¦
mostly this chapter would be self-indulgent to me (cryptid quincyyyy) and tie up that one line.Ā
chapter 24 (garu): ok. this is a bit of a hard cut, but like. interest is rising in the grand sorcerer because of all his visible activities, the recent catastrophes, and his growing reputation (good and bad). with that interest has come interest in his clan members and people with essence.
garu + karu are able to sniff out some odd people in their midst and reveal a plot about people wanting to harvest the power of the grand sorcerer and his clan members.
karu and rei do a bunch of sleuthing together too. heheh.
with this interest has come a interesting in vintage foreign technologyā¦
this chapter would be to present a new plot to follow and intrigue while also following up on garu + karuās revelations in the earlier chapters. backstory investigationā¦ and rei and garu + karu working togetherā¦.
chapter 25 (dante): dante has gone missing and eiden only knows because gyro, his butler, has alerted him directly to prevent others from taking advantage. everyone else is only speculating about his disappearance.
garu (helping with clan members being targeted), rei (familiar with black market rumors), blade (came on asterās recommendation), and eiden head off to investigate. they find a bunch of conspiracy stuff. after a bit, they find him captive, fighting off assailants trying to do some funky essence experiment with him. the assailants are shortly dispatched.
dante is worse for wear. upon investigating the notes and instruments left by the assailants, it seems like theyre trying to do some funky magic with saian tech, which blade and rei recognize. dante also provides insight on what they were trying to do with his scholarly knowhow. nerd session.
they get back to solaria, which is doing pretty well. besides the capital, it got hit relatively less in the catastrophes. they reconvene on everything
this chapter is because i want whump. and also i want meaty exposition on essence flowsā¦ it doesnt have a lot of punch bc dante being missing is a one chapter thing but uhhh. just insert foreshadowing in the other chapters.
chapter 26 (blade): uh. so. people Want blade. old records of what blade is have resurfaced and he isā¦ pretty recognizable.
after blade being recognized many times and being ultimately unable to hide him, a collection of Klein nobles, on behalf of Saia, are attempting to requisition blade from eiden. which likeā¦ hey. no.
blade is pretty uncomfortable with the whole situation because he doesnāt want to go back to being what he was and he wants to stay with eiden.
edmond is helping them navigate everything.
this chapter explores both bladeās past and his sense of identity in the present. i think other people ārecognizingā him as inhuman would be something interesting to see.
ultimately, the āpeople trying to get clan membersā would result in some kind of look into Klein magic and the universe and maybe the other nations besides saia. definitely a reverse isekai moment gets in there and also a look into the five sons and the original god of klein.
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ive been thinking about the sort of person the king of klein is.
generally, from aster, dante, and eidenās impressions, he seems to give off a foolish and overly friendly vibe. (also, disclaimer that this is mostly from memory and influenced by my focus on events that include dante. also i havent really gone through edmond or reiās rooms for king crumbs.)
aster describes him as useless in blood key and generally uses terms like āold fartā or āold fogeyā to describe him. in festive glimmer, dante says that just mentioning eiden got the king excited to invite him to the wintertime ceremony. and in chase the rainbow, when eiden and dante go meet the king, the king opts for an āinformalā visit where heās very talkative and when eiden makes a comment about it, edmond defends the king, saying he was āso happy that he lost track of timeā.
with these in mind, i always imagine the king as a typical white-haired, jolly old fellow type.
in contrast to this outer persona, we also see the kingās actions when ruling. sending edmond to force eiden into regulating the light altar, having the central army show up at solariaās gates, etc. forceful actions. the royal court probably has some influence in these decisions, but generally, these seem to be the kingās orders to edmond.
the most transparent example of the kingās actions that iāve read is in sunburst fever. there, the king sends edmond specifically to find and retrieve a legendary magical artifact in solarian soil. iirc, there is implied pressure by the royal court. obviously, thereās conflict with solaria (dante) there, but we know the royal court doesnt care because it seems that light nobles do not think much of the fire territory (see rinās little hallucination for edmond in chapter 10). however, edmond, mr. working-within-the-system, really doesnāt want to betray/slight solaria like that. at the same time, he will not allow himself to disobey direct order.
eiden talks with edmond about his conundrum and tells him that the king probably sent edmond specifically for this mission because he trusted him to do the right thing (ie, not betray solaria).
though not everything eiden says is always true, he often acts as a conduit of truth for the writers for the sake of exposition and i think he acts as one here.
by sending edmond, the king can be somewhat self-assured he wonāt be throwing solaria to the wolves and he can also quiet his court. i think this can also be applied to edmond being sent to solaria in chapter 10.
with how pushy and cutthroat light nobles seem to be (i mean look at how they treated the past queen), it seems like the king came to rely on a foolish persona that allows him more leeway to act as he wishes and also prevent people from suspecting his true intentions that account for things besides bringing the light kingdom more power.
š¤im curious about his relation to rei. theyre both part of the noble family and we know rei had a brother. they could be related, but in rusted nation, iirc rei alluded to being part of a branch of the royal family that fell out of favor? so the king could be a descendant from one of the more successful branches. which feels like a situation ripe for drama, despite reiās abandonment of his royal identity.
yeah! dante's resentment of the grand sorcerer!! @milkeumilkeou
now, when i say grand sorcerer, i don't really mean huey or eiden personally. the problem is more so the entity of the grand sorcerer that has loomed over dante for his entire life.
this got super long so the tl;dr of it is that dante resents the grand sorcerer for being a flaky bastard with far too much power and ability to fuck with his life.
for the longer version, though:
first, there's the starter pack which is that the grand sorcerer (ostensibly) roped dante into a blood contract where dante has no knowledge of the terms or conditions. and, furthermore, dante (from what he can tell) did not benefit from the contract at all, prior to collaborating with eiden. (see: his childhood where he definitely did not get the health-boosting benefits of having a lot of essence. i also have a theory about that which is here haha. it's pretty messy... i should probably rewrite it)
the second part comes after he ascended to the position of sun lord. most of this part of the headcanon is grounded in his reaction to meeting eiden in chapter 9.
the tl;dr of 9-03 and 9-05 is that dante opens his meeting with eiden by testing his connection to him (that ~clan member~ resonance). he asserts that his ancestor was reckless for entering into a contract with the grand sorcerer. he says he wants to see what sort of 'Master' eiden is.
they get into a fight about eiden trying to give out food and help an orphan, which escalates to eiden trying to punch dante and dante catching said punch. dante is like 'i hoped you'd be aware of basic diplomacy but you're obviously not'. they exchange some more choice words (shout out eidenā¦ and the classy affair event for later giving him a needed lesson in etiquette LMAOā¦).
then in 9-10, when eiden gives meeting dante a second shot and explains to dante that he's there to help regulate the fire altar, dante refuses his help or collaboration because dante has the situation handled. he's smug when eiden is surprised.
dante states, "ā¦so even the Grand Sorcerer himself can't detect the altar's current condition. I suppose I should consider that as my hard work having paid off."
dante reveals he's delaying the collapse of the altar with regular maintenance in order to buy time to research how to regulate it properly himself. he points out that, even though working with eiden would be easy, solaria would "be in a great bind if you were to disappear" and "if you [eiden] were to use regulating the altar as a bargaining chip, there'd be no one on the entire continent who could say no to your demands.".
and then there's a bunch of problems, courtesy of rin, which are not precisely relevant to this analysis.
now that we've got the foundation of chapter 9, we can see that there are a whole bunch of reasons dante would not trust the approach of the grand sorcerer, new or not.
let's start off with 9-03 and 9-05.
dante's testing the grand sorcerer here. by testing his connection with eiden and seeing his reaction, he's gauging the grand sorcerer's power and control. his words are also testing the grand sorcerer and showing that he isn't going to immediately bow his head to his 'so-called master'.
from general reactions toward the grand sorcerer, we know that that figure, that entity, is known to be powerful across klein. it is a title that demands some modicum of respect. dante, who was born after the grand sorcerer's disappearance, had little solid information to work off of when it comes to what kind of threat the grand sorcerer was.
all he knew was that, potentially, he might be beholden to a stranger at some point. a stranger with unknown motives and an unknown threat level. given dante's lynchpin position in solaria's governance, especially in his early days as sun lord, the threat of the grand sorcerer one day appearing before him and either dragging him away from his city or extorting/harming solaria through him wasā¦ well, y'know. it was a distinct possibility that constantly loomed.
so add that constant worry as a reason for resentment.
then, in 9-10, we see that the grand sorcerer, given the 20+ year disappearance, is kind of an unreliable figure. dante has plenty of reason to resent this random figure who, from an outside perspective, made klein reliant on him, the grand sorcerer, for survival and then disappeared without a trace. plus, yknow, aforementioned fear of being taken advantage of/used/extorted.
all this together, dante's early treatment of eiden makes more sense. he's always testing for the grand sorcerer he feared and taking stock of where they stand with one another. it's mostly goofy and dante is generally secure in his position of authority.
the main example of dante's early testing is how he used to call eiden 'master', sarcastically. because eiden obviously had no control over him.
another example is the amount of smug delight he has when eiden agrees to serve him as a butler in his ssr. like, how the tables have turned.
i think, for the longest time, dante expected the worst from the grand sorcerer. he expected a fickle tyrant who had bent klein to its knees and then vanished. he expected someone akin to the light noble characters that we've met or maybe someone like Duke.
in his first bloody key intimacy room, while drunk (and fresh off of a very stressful adventure), dante bumps into eiden and they have this exchange:
Dante: "It's youā¦ staying up at night and pretending to be the Grand Sorcererā¦"
Eiden: "Pretending? I am the Grand Sorcerer!" / "Hey, you're wasted, it's not important."
Dante: "ā¦ā¦"
Eiden: "(He went back [into his room] without a wordā¦ what's going on?)"
For context, the thing that's going on with Dante is that he was strongarmed by Aster into performing a task for a noble who has significant control over Solarian trade and he's been going out for information. More context is that exchange is wayyy after Dante and Eiden's initial relationship. They like each other now. Eiden sucked Dante's dick while pretending to be his loving bride.
So, Dante knows what Eiden is like now. He knows that he's kind and loving and weak and a brat. Dante likes Eiden.
But still, while drunk, he doesn't like the Grand Sorcerer or, at least, the person he thought the Grand Sorcerer was. To some extent, with how much more personable and human Eiden is, with all the power that he lacks, Dante still feels like Eiden is pretending to fill the shoes of that larger role.
and uhhh, circling back to dante's birthday doodle, i believe that dante looks like he fucking hates huey because he's legitimately still pissed about literally everything. the contract. the abandonment. the lack of failsafes. huey, of course, does not care because he's apathetic chill like that.
and that's the general shape of why i think dante really resents the grand sorcerer. the grand sorcerer gave him nothing, held control over the altars across the nation, hung like a sword over his head during the most stressful years of his life, and then things turned out to be kinda chill because the grand sorcerer became eiden.
replying to iyavi on the dante body post really got me thinking about my Top Indulgence Dante HC which is that dante would the Elemental Spirit of Fire's favorite guy if the elemental spirits got recompressed into the five sons
evidence for this is:
1) he passed the trials of the elemental spirit of fire
2) he can roughly understand and communicate with fire spirits
3) he respects them
4) he understands that spirits have varying personalities ("Just like humans, they possess their own individual traits and beliefs." - C. 10-1)
5) he's just so cocky about some spirits having favorites
^ the face of a guy who has been shown preferential treatment by fire spirits
i knooooow that the five sons practically do not exist. HOWEVER, imo there is still signs of unifying personality in the spirits and it's fun to imagine them 'coming back' as characters and interacting with the clan members and giving us insight on their father, the God of Klein? and them putting that copy of god on just one continent?
lowkey, to them, rin and eiden might be like the children their beloved daughter sacrificed her life for. there is a good chance that they just like the twins. however, i think it's more interesting if they lowkey resent them for being the product of the destruction of their 'pseudo-father', y'know?
in terms of personalities for each son, i don't have a ton hashed out.
going over the important part though: the son who went on to become the fire spirits. the most prominent trait that we have of him are the trials of his spirits. from these trials, we can glean that he respects people who are independent and able to conquer their fears.
now, the sample size (which is two (1)) is Not Great in general but it's Pretty Good for nu carnival given the limited room for exposition.
the primary example we have of the trials is based on the single trial that eiden took during cowboy dante's rooms. in that trial, the spirits forced eiden to confront his worst fear and they wanted him to confront it alone (though dante stayed by eiden's side regardless of the will of the spirits). (dante sticking by eiden's side causes the spirits release them early instead of putting eiden through all the trials.) during the rooms, it is indicated that the trial that eiden went through is similar to the trials dante went through as a child, so that doubles the count.
another trait that we can more dubious attribute to this son is that he does not care about the status or lineage of those he bestows power to. this is solely based on dante's trials, but his trials were proctored by the most powerful elemental spirit (the elemental spirit of fire. that's what it's called. this terminology is hell) in the fire territory and i think it is a fair possibility that the amount of power a spirit has corresponds to how much of their son that they possess.
dante states in his chase the rainbow unit that the elemental spirit of fire did not grant him any favor despite his family's history contracting with it. from this and the trials, it seems like the son that became the fire spirits was someone who deeply valued character, strength, and willpower and disdains reliance on others, whether it be blood or bonds. he only cared for the individual proving themselves on their own power.
with the fire son (im gonna start calling him the fire son) being such a principled and judgemental person, it feels extra special for him to like dante so much. and why wouldn't he? dante's already proven himself again and again for the fire territory. dante works endlessly hard, he powers through his weakness, and he has been forced to operate mostly alone. and the fire son, through spirits, has been witness to all of it...
tl;dr, dante should be the fire son's specialist little guy, not out of nepotism, but because the fire son has been watching him work himself ragged and the fire son thinks that that's how an ideal person should act under the circumstances that dante finds himself in. the fire son should like him sooo much and spoil him and everything.
