Dec 17, 2024
the great thing about a lot of the original spm designs is that they’re so abstract you can do anything with them
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the great thing about a lot of the original spm designs is that they’re so abstract you can do anything with them
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So i was going through old SPM art and found this post again, and decided ya know what? WHAT IF I DESIGNED THE SAGES. So uh. I did. And Now i miss my wife (spm is my wife. i miss her, guys)
If you wan like. Ask me questions about the designs I can give you my thoughts. Assuming I have any thoughts.
Super Paper Mario Timeline:
This has actually been done for quite some time, I just forgot to post it, but here is a decently comprehensive timeline of the important events of the 1500 years preceding Super Paper Mario. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1w_sWU5LxkszlbWLoqTJRhTvuYY9AAU8pUnMbHtCNxCc/edit?pli=1
I may eventually get around to the rest, but the periods of 3000 and 2000 years ago are more unclear and contentious than the era of the Sages, as well as having less concrete information to draw from, so those probably won't be done for a while. Feel free to leave any feedback and ask any questions, I'm always happy to respond!
“The Ancients lived in prosperity, thanks to the work of many Pixls... But one day, that all ended.”
SPM Theory: Merloo is Merlee's Ancestor (and possibly Bestovius's as well):
Argument 1: Merloo's window in the Mirror Hall features a representation of the Sun, and Merlee's Japanese name and magic are both drawn from the Sun. This same symbol is also seen on the doors of Merlee and Merluvlee's locations in Flip/Flopside. Argument 2: In Merlee's Mansion, one of the pictures seen in the hallway depicts an eye symbol also seen in Merloo's window, providing another symbological connection between the two figures. Argument 3: Merluvlee possesses the ability to see into the future, something which Merloo was also capable of. Merlee also mentions that her ancestors have prophesied supplementary details to the Light Prognosticus regarding the four heroes. Argument 4: Also pictured in Merlee's Mansion are Merluvlee, who is known to be a relative of hers, and Bestovius. This may suggest that Merlee and Bestovius share an ancestor. Bestovius is noted as a master of dimensional magic, an area of expertise that Merloo shares, so if they do share an ancestor, that ancestor being Merloo would explain those parallels. Argument 5: In the Flipside Pit of 100 Trials, a presumed ancestor of Merlee who was trusted to guard the Yellow Pure Heart is depicted. As this Merlee ancestor who lived contemporary to Merlimbis is very similar in appearance to the Merlee of the current day, the likely candidate for the other ancestor would be the one who closest resembles her. Merloo, whose hair style and color are the closest to Merlee's among the Sages, fits best in this regard. Graphic created by the fantastic General Donitsky:
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Re: Merlimbis
So I posted about this elsewhere a while ago, but I'm thinking about it again. Every other one of the Sages has something substantial to them that goes beneath the surface and has bizarre implications. Merlight worked with the Tribe of Darkness to create Flopside and was probably the one to pass down the (technically illegal) notes on Pixl-making that Merlon later used to save Timpani's life. Merlumina was apparently the wholesale leader of the entire Tribe of Ancients and helped out substantially with every other Sage's contributions on top of being powerful and passionate enough that her romances threatened WORLDS somehow. Merloo... hoo boy, where to even START on him? Having future vision in the Japanese version, very likely being the one of the Light Prognosticus's writers to have read the Dark one in order to make it, probably BEING Dimentio, the list goes on. All that's not even getting into the weird stuff. But then there's Merlimbis. Loving and caring person, ancestor of Merlee and Merluvlee, co-created the Purity Heart with Merlumina, and... that's it, as far as I can tell? She helped make the vessel for the most powerful, undying force in existence, but she doesn't have ANY weird mysteries or associations? It's just weird. If anybody has more I missed on Merlimbis, I'd be very interested to know more!
