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Cloaked by Night, Los Angeles – August 27th, 2021
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I excuse a heartless act of war when it ultimately saves civilians and soldiers alike. Modern war is state terrorism -- classifying it that way changes nothing.
Many acts of modern war are state terrorism and as such I don't support them. And we don't know it saved lives. There was no reason we couldn't have used the bomb on a non-civilian area first.

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Hirohito green-lit the Pearl Harbor attack, authorized chemical warfare on Chinese civilians, and urged suicide over surrender for his civilians, thousands of which followed through. Togo carried out the day-to-day, but the comparison of Hirohito in any way to the modern Queen of England is just off-base. Honestly, it was either bomb or invade.
I'm not defending Hirohito. Of course he was a terrible person who made terrible decisions.
What does that have to do with excusing what was, essentially, state terrorism?
Incorrect, the military was loyal to the emperor: this wasn't just a figurehead. There's a reason that immediately after the second bomb was dropped, it was the emperor that authorized Togo to tell the Allies the only condition would be maintaining the royal family. And even after having two nuclear bombs dropped on their cities, years of firebombing, etc., members of the military STILL tried to prevent the radio broadcast to civilians declaring surrender. Right, negotiations...
The military was loyal to the Emperor as an idea and as a head of state, just as, I'm sure, the the British army is fiercely loyal to their queen. Now, Hirohito held much more power that the than the queen does, but most of it was still symbolic. He left most military decisions to the military leaders.
And yes, negotiations?
At the very least, the US should have tried dropping the bomb on an uninhabited island or even one of their city sized military bases before picking a civilian population. Another term for that is, after all, state terrorism.
That's silly, it took only a letter from the Emperor. As for the person that said the Japanese were considering surrendering between the bombs, consider the conditions that they were presenting. No allied occupation of any of their conquered land, no occupation of the mainland, allowing them to do disarmament themselves, and allowing them to punish their own war criminals. I'd love to meet the person that after a decade of Japanese terror believe these are acceptable conditions.
Actually, no, the Emperor was largely a figurehead by that time. Real power was held in the military, and it would have shocked no one if the military decided to disregard that letter.Of course, that's what they'd want to push for at first. That's why governments negotiate. It is not why governments target civilian populations.