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LOVE listening to Elias get beat up in Mag148
Ah, yes, Extended Surveillance, spiritual sibling to number one most famous episode, Binary.
Call me a basira simp but when she beat the shit out of Elias in that prison it was kinda hot

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GOOD FOR HER
forgot to say this last week but can we get a wahey for one of the best statement openings in a while
i love and support you, sunil maraj, go get a better job
Reviewing time for MAG148! X___X/*
- I still canāt believe that the āExtendedā in the title was for (amongst other things) long-due [EXTENDED SOUNDS OF ELIAS GETTING BRUTALLY PUNCHED]. āGeorge Icarusā would laugh in his grave from vindication if only his skin hadnāt been used during The Unknowing.
And it was so varied! Ben did a Great Work at it because it sounds like Basira got very creative in that scene? At first, sounded like a punch in the guts; got the feeling, right after, that it was her pinning her against a wall or the table, an arm twisted in his back, holding him by his hair? And with the:
(MAG148) BASIRA: Mmāhmm. ELIAS: [ASPHYXIATED NOISE] [STRANGLED] Bā⦠But I⦠can see how maybe I⦠should have mentioned itā¦!
Sounded like Basira blocking his windpipe (ha.) with her forearm, pushing higher. Donāt know how other people are Hearing This Scene but I do appreciate that, anyway, it was moving and slightly different every time, we could hear it, and it was Various Shades Of Elias Having A Bad Time.
⦠well. I HOPE he was having a bad time. Because getting savagely thrashed around and then going:
(MAG148) BASIRA: [EXHALE] So. Why dāyou agree to see me. ELIAS: I missed you. BASIRA: Right. Thatās why youāve been refusing my visits since we got back. ELIAS: IāI thought it might have⦠[EXHALING] been an idea to give you some space. BASIRA: Oh, and howād that work out for you? ELIAS: Ah⦠Notānot ideally. [ā¦] Goodbye, Detective. I shall miss our little chats.
Is. Uh. With Jonathan ādo I miss being chased?ā Sims and now this, what is it with Beholding types and being-addicted-to-the-things/people-wrecking you. Was Elias fond of Gertrude in the same way.
(And what does it say about Elias that this scene was, like, a big moment of *BREATHES* in the last string of episodes, while itās still about a prisoner getting beaten up by an ex-cop, who also threatened to make his overall situation worse, while prison guards should supposedly have stepped in to protect him? Not too surprised about the fact that the officers didnāt intervene spontaneously (they have had to deal with Elias for a year. Elias who has blackmail material and has such a Charming Personality.), and Basira had many reasons to lash out (used as coerced material for Elias to trap Daisy, basically a hostage; was recently sent all over the world on Eliasās bullshit leads), but. Still. Not great from Basira. Technically. (You did amazing sweetie, bastard had it coming.))
- I also wondered if Elias wasnāt actually a bit. High. During the whole altercation. Because he was reaaaaally⦠uh. Making things worse for himself here and there? While being absolutely aware that Basira was pissed and ready to kick him harder? And if really sounded like someone who was too out-of-his-mind to truly assess the situation.
On the one hand, some bits felt like they were feeding the Elias-is-actually-Jonah theory:
(MAG148) ELIAS: Uh! Look, look, look. Iāve⦠been doing this a long time now and, if thereās one thing Iāve learned about The Web, itās that it plays its own game. [ā¦] ARCHIVIST: ⦠IāI donāt know, I mean⦠We still donāt really know⦠what Elias actually isā¦? I thought⦠Maybe if he was more like me than we realisedā¦
(And Jon miiiiight have thought about it too.)
⦠and on the other hand, the more shittiest he gets, the younger and younger he sounds to me, a sneaky opportunistic lazy little thing who just happened to get his hands on some power recently, and not a 200y-old person. Elias in s1? Can accept that yeah, 40-50y old. But heās been losing ten years at a time to my ears ever since, and heās currently at āearly 20 stupid idiotā.
- Anyway, I have a special fondness for the line:
(MAG148) ELIAS: ⦠And, hum⦠No more violence, Detective. Or I may have to call in the guards.
Because he sounded so Dramatic and Righteous, a bit reminiscent of⦠stereotypical thin old lady holding her bag, very blank face and solemn? I donāt know how to describe it exactly, but Benās delivery in that one cracks me up a lot.
- On the one hand, ahahaha, Elias is Being His Useless Self, Basira ranted about it, Jon&Basira acknowledged that he wouldnāt be helpful in anything but āuseless gloatingā, Elias himself looks⦠only Good At Bullshitting (like Jon described in MAG145). ⦠On the other hand, itās generally when Elias has been proven⦠less threatening than what we could fear, that he tends to prove that no, he can harm, and has ways to do it, and wonāt hesitate.
Jon spitting at his face post-kidnapping in MAG102 and Tim telling him to fuck off in MAG104? Was followed with Melanieās āperformance reviewā in MAG106. The assistants scheming to take him down, ~fooling him~ with Martin acting as bait and Melanie finding proof to force Section 31 to arrest him? Was still followed by Elias designating Peter as the Head Director (and potentially having planned this⦠for a while⦠since he had sent Peter to meet Martin in MAG108, and Peter had already come in the Institute in MAG100), plus revealing that he knew about Jonās dreams all along.
So, uh. If the current trend is to deride Elias⦠he might prove, soon-ish, that yeah, heās not as big of a menace that he likes to make you think, but heās still a Threat.
- SPECIAL WORRY OVER:
(MAG148) BASIRA: And when exactly were you planning to tell us heās been feeding on innocents? [SILENCE] ELIAS: Ah⦠[HUM] Iāve⦠always thought that a manās eating habits were⦠his own private business. BASIRA: Mmāhmm. ELIAS: [ASPHYXIATED NOISE] [STRANGLED] Bā⦠But I⦠can see how maybe I⦠should have mentioned itā¦!
⦠because it puts to mind:
(MAG127) BASIRA: Can we cut the bullshit? ELIAS: What ābullshitā might that be? BASIRA: The part where you pretend you donāt spend your whole time watching us. ELIAS: ⦠Sometimes Iām eating.
And alright, at that point, Jon had already attacked two people, could have been a reference to that. But mostly, what is Elias eating, or whom? Heās been in prison for (almost?) a year by now ā how does he himself Feed Beholdingā¦? I understood their exchange as⦠Elias saying that his situation had actually gotten worse in prison while she was away (?):
(MAG148) BASIRA: Right. Thatās why youāve been refusing my visits since we got back. ELIAS: IāI thought it might have⦠[EXHALING] been an idea to give you some space. BASIRA: Oh, and howād that work out for you? ELIAS: Ah⦠Notānot ideally.
But Iām not sure, since he also pointed out that his āspecial treatmentā was guaranteed because he was giving the police useful information. So. I donāt know. But beginning to fear that he actually has the entire prison under his control, and that heās just in the right place to cause damages and get the Archives team in the direction he wants, while being sure that Jon wonāt try to compel himā¦?
- Amusingly, this episode made small references to fantheories! There was the what-the-heck-is-Elias bit with Elias saying that he had been in the game āa long time nowā (which sounded very orientated towards the Jonah Magnus theory); the connection between Elias and The Web, with Elias claiming that uuuh⦠Spiders are best ignored:
(MAG148) ELIAS: Uh! Look, look, look. Iāve⦠been doing this a long time now and, if thereās one thing Iāve learned about The Web, itās that it plays its own game. All you can really do is⦠hope it doesnāt get in the way of whatever your plan is. Because the Spider usually winsā¦! Assuming you have a plan. Do⦠you⦠have a plan? Detective?
(And on the one hand, Elias is almost explicitly saying that he has no connection with The Web (although as usual, you can also read his sentence while focusing on whatās missing: it would work perfectly if he was actually talking about himsel in third person); on the other hand⦠heās also doing exactly what Annabelle described re:The Web, ie constantly making people under or overestimate you as fits your plans. So. Yeah. Could be that Elias indeed has no plan at all, or barely any, and is mostly waiting for Jon to keep digging his own grave and Create A Beholding Ritual from scratch because Jon is too impatient. Could also be that Elias does have plans, and is mostly trying to get Basira to not factor him in too much at the moment ā if so, it worked.)
And there was the āDetectiveā bit:
(MAG148) ELIAS: [SNIFF] Good evening, Detectiā [PUNCH] OW! [EXTENDED SOUND OF BRUTAL PUNCHING.] BASIRA: Useless, scheming piece of shit! ELIAS: Detective, this is quite unneceā [ā¦] BASIRA: No. No, Iām done with your game! ELIAS: Bas⦠Basira, letāsā [ā¦] Assuming you have a plan. Do⦠you⦠have a plan? Detective? BASIRA: ⦠Why do you do that? What is that? ELIAS: Uh⦠Do what? BASIRA: You always call me āDetectiveā. Is that supposed to mean something? ELIAS: Honestly? I just like the way it sounds! BASIRA: [DISGUSTED EXHALE] ELIAS: ⦠And, hum⦠No more violence, Detective. Or I may have to call in the guards. [ā¦] Iām sorry to say, Detective, but youāre becoming predictableā¦! BASIRA: [EXASPERATED GRUNT] ELIAS: Goodbye, Detective. I shall miss our little chats.
On the one hand: Elias explicitly says that no, ahah, the ādetectiveā bit is just a random thing (for added drama? I mean, someone had been hand-gesturing a looooot, if the shackle sounds are any indication); on the other hand, Agnes was the living proof that Believing And Faith Is The Key when it comes to Fears, and that you create things if you think hard enough that theyāll work out. So. Even if the āDetectiveā is a title he went for because it literally sounded cool, it could become⦠something.
On the third hand: gdi Elias, give credits where itās due!!! Georgie had been the first one to call Basira a ādetectiveā, in MAG122!!! (⦠and I was assuming, until then, that he had Watched the scene and adopted it because indeed, it sounded nice; and this episode is⦠leaning in that direction, snorts.)
(⦠but worried/suspicious about Georgieās tendency to be spot-on with key words or key concepts. Besides the ādetectiveā, she also nailed āanchorā and āavatarā, which had been used during Gertrudeās time, according to Gertrudeās tapes⦠But Georgie couldnāt know that yet, and Jon hadnāt heard those yet back when he was discussing the concepts with Georgie.)
Anyway, glad that Basira highlighted Eliasās insistence over ādetectiveā, and absolutely Not Surprised But Still Facepalming that Elias just. Used it even more than usual afterwards. Heās so shitty, Elias PLEASEā¦
(+ Bonus to the list of Current Fantheories nudge: we got a Beholding statement about technology which included wiring everywhere. Was that a nod towards the Webholding speculation going on?)
(⦠and meanwhile, we still donāt have that kind of joke or winkwink between Martin and Peter over the fact that they could potentially be blood-related. Mmmmmmmmmm.)
- Okay, Elias was a total useless cracky bust this week but I canāt help but always be wary of him and what he is saying, and he said about The Dark:
(MAG148) BASIRA: Unless youāve got another crisis for me? ELIAS: [PAINED GROAN] No, no! [PANTING] ⦠No. Iāitāitās fine. IāIām, Iām sorry. BASIRA: Oh yeah? For which part? ELIAS: [HIGH-PITCHED] ⦠All of itā¦? BASIRA: You sent us to the North fucking Pole for no goddamn reason. ELIAS: A, aāhem⦠miscalculation.
⦠And the thing is. That.
1°) Manuela didnāt explain how Elias and Rayner knew each other and had been āfriendsā. It seems to be going to feed the āElias is Jonahā theory, since we know Jonah and Rayner were acquaintances back in the days, but⦠Manuela has now been taken care of, and who, besides Rayner himself, could have willingly talked a bit more about it?
2°) Weāre past July 20th 2018 (MAG147) and. There is still the fact that a partial solar eclipse is bound to happen on August 11th 2018 (from real life). On the one hand, yeah, The Dark seems to be Absolutely Done For by now; on the other hand, they just tend to. never be truly done for and actually, surprise!, still be around and kicking. (And Jon had seen members of the cult, at the beginning of the season, meaning⦠there are still some of them around, even after their ālastā collective attempt with Rayner in February 2017ā¦? How come there were still people that Jon managed to identify as cultists, if the cult doesnāt exist anymore and their leader is deadā¦?)
- ALRIGHT NO, ACTUAL SUPER SPECIAL DUPER WORRY IS THAT ELIAS DROPPED SOME āADVICEā AGAIN
(MAG148) BASIRA: Or that we were being stalked by some freaky spider woman. Donāt tell me you didnāt know about that! ELIAS: Ah, uh, yāyes⦠Wāwell⦠To be honest, Iād⦠advise you to leave that one ā well alone. BASIRA: Oh yeah? ELIAS: Uh! Look, look, look. Iāve⦠been doing this a long time now and, if thereās one thing Iāve learned about The Web, itās that it plays its own game. All you can really do is⦠hope it doesnāt get in the way of whatever your plan is. Because the Spider usually winsā¦!
Because I Remember Too Well two big pieces of āadviceā that Elias had given Jon, and:
(MAG037) MARTIN: Sorry⦠Look, Jon, I do think we should destroy the table, though. I mean, if itās the one from Amy Patelās statement. Just in case. ARCHIVIST: Elias told me the same thing. Luckily, he phrased it as advice rather than an instruction, so for now Iām more inclined to keep studying it. Weāre not in the business of destroying knowledge.
(MAG116) ELIAS: Oh, and, Jon ā technically, I canāt stop you, but I would heavily advise against bringing any⦠rogue⦠elements. MARTIN: You can just say Tim. ARCHIVIST: I will take it under advisement. ELIAS: Hm. Anyway, donāt worry about staying in contact, Iāll know when it starts.
AND GUESS WHAT HAPPENED TO SASHA (WHEN SHE WAS ALONE WITH THE TABLE) AND TO TIM (WHOM JON ALLOWED TO COME TO THE UNKNOWING).
(+ Bonus, to Daisy:
(MAG082) ELIAS: I leave the matter of Jonathan Sims up to you, though I will not tell you where he is. I suggest you close the case and move on, but if you find yourself unable to do so, my advice is to kill him quickly. Thereās no telling what he might be capable of.
⦠Like, yes, at the time, it was hilarious to imply that Jon could be a threat for anyone or anything, and it was mostly a āhEYā moment because Elias was⦠encouraging Daisy to go Hard on Jon, who was currently lost and sleep-deprived and spending his days researching on his computer, drinking tea, cleaning Georgieās kitchen and catsitting The Admiral. But. Eliasās āadviceā to Daisy didnāt age well / aged TOO well.)
ā¦ā¦ā¦ā¦ā¦ā¦ā¦ so additional current fear is that, yeah, Basira will end up not leaving The Web alone and. It. Will. Get straight back at her.
- Also SHIT, Basira:
(MAG148) ARCHIVIST: Did he say anything about Annabelle? BASIRA: Not really. Sounds like heās not too worried, though. Says to just ignore it. ARCHIVIST: [SNORTING] Yeah, good luck with that!
⦠this is NOT what Elias said. He basically said that you couldnāt do anything about it anyway. Thatās. Not exactly the same thing. (And he sounded a bit scared of that one.)
- Gaaaasp, this season has been so vulgar so far, gaaaaaaaaaaasp
(MAG131) ARCHIVIST: Oh, I⦠Melanie, IāIām so sorry, Iā MELANIE: Oooh, fuck off?! ARCHIVIST: I was trying to save your life. MELANIE: Yesā¦! Well, you did! [ā¦] It didnāt stay in my leg because of some Ghostly Masterplan; it stayed⦠because I wanted it. ARCHIVIST: ⦠Shit. MELANIE: Yes.
(MAG132) BASIRA: Jon, you stupid idiot! What did you think?! DAISY: ⦠Hi.
(MAG143) BASIRA: [SIGH] So, what, this was another waste of time? What, no Church, no Dark Sun? ⦠Iām gonna kill that son of a bitchā¦!
(MAG148) BASIRA: Useless, scheming piece of shit! [ā¦] You sent us to the North fucking Pole for no goddamn reason.
(Iām amused because, is the use of āfuckā actually a sneaky way to get a higher rating for episodes with actually harder content? Here, we had a beating up taking place in a cell; MAG131 had Jon trying to self-harm. MAG080 had a murder live. ⦠Well, MAG065 and MAG104 were their Own Things and itās the True Power Of Tim: getting to say āfuckā even when the episode content is otherwise typical.)
- Statement tiiime and Iāll go very fast because I messed up my timing again:
* Obligatory Gratuitous Tim Tears because Iām conditioned to think about him with the simple mention:
(MAG148, Sunil Maraj) āBut thereād been some⦠problem, and the whole place had to be closed up for months. Samson said theyād found asbestos, I heard it was a lease issue, but⦠doesnāt really matter.ā
-> (I KNOW, ITāS ABSOLUTELY GRATUITOUS⦠⦠but I think the beginning of MAG090 is still one of my favourite exchanges of the entire series, I relistened to it so many times, shut up >>)
(MAG090) TIM: ⦠You do know, right? I mean, you must know. ELIAS: Know what? TIM: About this place. About what it does to us. ELIAS: [SIGH] Tim, this place is very old. It has all sorts of⦠idiosyncrasies, and not all of them are good for the people who work here. TIM: I think Iād prefer asbestos.
(+ Melanieās old haunted building in MAG028 has had its share.)
(Yes, Iām aware of the RQ crewās Personal Experience With Asbestos.)
* Same hat, statement-givers:
(MAG148, Sunil Maraj) āNow, Iām not sure I can legally name the shopping centre I was working in to you guys, but letās just say it wasnāt the Westfield. [ā¦] The security office was a mess. The company I worked for ā again, dunno if I can legally say them, but you can look it up, you know [ā¦].ā
(MAG051, Antonia Hayley) āYouāll forgive me if I donāt give their name; I still hold out hope that I might go back to work there someday, and Iād feel like an asshole dragging their name through the mud, even if it is just to you and your strict confidentiality procedures. If youāre desperate, they shouldnāt be hard to identify, but itās not really relevant to what happened.ā
Not Telling You But You Can Find Out Easily Anyway (except if youāre not even interested in doing the follow-up properly and/or to try to see if this place is still dangerous :[[[)
* IāM EXTRA-SAD FOR SAMSON SINCE HE HAD A SMALL CHILD gdi, Iām even more upset when you know it will mess up people from the victimās surroundingsā¦
* Old tech obviously reminded me of MAG065, but this time with less of a trapping theme ā 100% Beholding at work? And is there something with the 80s tech specificallyā¦? Sergei Ushanka, according to the story, had died in 1983; the old Tecton multi-camera recorder was said to be from the late 80s here; and we donāt know how long the tape recorders had been in the Archives, only that Gertrude was using them at least in the 90s (so they could be a bit older).
(* I did wonder, when the statement-giver mentioned how he tended to shop a Treat for himself from time to time, and with how aware he was of the cameras⦠if he wasnāt trying to avoiding saying that he was actually shoplifting from his workplace.)
* Thatās the 4th Beholding statement this season, And This Is A Lot More Than Usual, And Iām Scared. Beholding is just⦠looming. There. More and more present.
* Laughtrack.wav because oH MY GODS, JON??? JON, DO YOU EVEN HEAR YOURSELF WHEN YOU READ A STATEMENT????
(MAG148, Sunil Maraj) āSo I lost my job last week. I mean, I quit, they didnāt fire me or nothing, but you know like, sometimes you quit because you want to, and sometimes you quit because youāve got to?ā
With the fact that the place Sunil had gone to was described as a āmessā that they had to sort out; that Samson didnāt have a lot of emotional support and was not in a nice headspace when they arrived (āSamson took it harder than I did. [ā¦] being thrown from one post to another all the time was really kind of getting to him. He tried to talk to me about it a few times, but honestly we werenāt that closeā¦!ā); that Samson got obsessed with putting the place in order and only focused on that and then began to follow his friend through the camera lens (or his own lens.)⦠It sounded an awful lot like Jonās situation in the Archives, and the first paragraph and the mention from Sunil that a bit of distance had helped??? Sounded VERY oddly on point??? Jon, what does it say, if even Beholding is giving you āhey, sometimes, you donāt want to, but you still have toā talk through a statement???? Jonathan???
(Jk aside, because indeed, I think Gertrude was right to point out that the Fears donāt really have a consciousness, and it would sound very counterproductive from Beholding to invite its local avatar to hold up on feeding from innocents, but. Still. The rhetoric question sounded waaaay too exactly fitting for Jon, holy Mew.)
- Jonās spiel about āignoranceā was a bit of surprise, I didnāt expect him to obsess over it? Because it⦠has been very present in the past, in the Archives or with statement-givers precisely explaining how āignoranceā doesnāt protect you from anything (+ is⦠still, in a certain way, Beholdingās domain):
(MAG032, Jane Prentiss) āAnd now I stare at it and not a word of it is even enough to fully describe the fact that I itch. Because āitchā is not the right word. There is no right word because for all your Institute and ignorance may laud the power of the word, it cannot even stretch to fully capture what I feel in my bones. What possible recourse could there be for me in your books and files and libraries except more useless ink and dying letters? I see now why The Hive hates you. You can see it and log it and note its every detail but you can never understand it. You rob it of its fear even though your weak words have no right to do so.ā
(MAG036, Nicole Baxter) āwhen I asked the two of them who they were, they just shook their heads and told me to leave. I asked them what was going on, and the old man looked at his companion, as if asking permission, said something about knowledge being a good defence here. She shook her head and said that leaving quickly was a better one. I didnāt need to be told a third time.ā
(MAG039) MARTIN: Then why do youā ARCHIVIST: Because Iām scared, Martin!. Because when I record these statements it feels⦠it feels like Iām being watched. I⦠I lose myself a bit. And then when I come back, itās like⦠like if I admit there may be any truth to it, whateverās watching will... know somehow. The scepticism, feigning ignorance. It just felt safer. MARTIN: Well⦠It wasnāt. ARCHIVIST: No. No, it wasnāt.
(MAG047) ARCHIVIST: Yes, well, thank you for that, I suppose. And you still hadnāt told me why you⦠āintervenedā at all. MICHAEL: [CHUCKLE] Iām normally neutral, yes, but⦠the loss of this place would have unbalanced the struggle too early. I am keen to see how it progresses. ARCHIVIST: You make it sounds like thereās a⦠war. MICHAEL: Ehā¦! Then I will say nothing further. I wouldnāt⦠wish to tarnish your ignorance prematurely. ⦠Goodbye, Archivist. ARCHIVIST: Wait! [SCRAPPING OF CHAIR] Ah⦠ah, ow⦠ah⦠Mā Michaelā¦? Michael!
(MAG089) JUDE: Oh please, your god is nothing! The Eye, Beholding, Ceaseless Watcher, whatever you call it, thatās all it does, it watches and knows, sitting bulbous and comfortable in the ignorance of infinite knowledge.
(MAG098) MARTIN: Yeah, we talked. Not long, heā Yāknow, I think he thinks that the distance keeps us safe, you know? Like, like, if he just makes sure that weāre not involved, weāre somehow fine. TIM: Heās an idiot. Look, we didnāt know what that door was, and it still trapped us. Ignorance isnāt going to save anyone. MARTIN: No, I mean, youāre right, I guess. He was⦠Yāknow, we know about Sasha now, and⦠he said he doesnāt want to lose anyone else. Like, yāknow, itās his fault. TIM: Isnāt it? MARTIN: No! No, it isnāt! I mean, you heard Elias⦠We never really stood a chance. TIM: Yeah. Maybe. But Elias wasnāt actually the one who offered me the job down here. MARTIN: No, Iā Sure.
(MAG106, Jan Kilbride) āBut I keep thinking back to an old professor of mine, back when I briefly studied neuroscience, talking about consciousness. About how we still donāt honestly know what it is ā where it comes from, what aspect of the brain makes it possible. And I wonder if there might not be consciousnesses out there, so far beyond our comprehension that we could not properly recognize them as such. Minds so strange and colossal that we would never know that they were minds at all. Perhaps⦠out there, in the endless Vast, it would not notice or recognize us in return. And I wish that I could convince myself that ignorance was the same thing as safety. But then⦠how many weeds have you unthinkingly stepped on in your lifetime?ā
(MAG117) TIM: I used to blame my brother for going off on one and poking around where he wasnāt wanted; I used to blame myself for not⦠helping him, but now? Now it doesnāt matter. I read through enough of these things to know that it doesnāt matter. The only thing you need to have your life destroyed by this stuff is just bad luck. Talk to the wrong person, take the wrong train, [SCOFF] open the wrong door ā and thatās it!
(MAG137) GERTRUDE: Gerard may have a connection to The Eye, but Iām not convinced it will be enough. And I will admit Iāve grown⦠fond of the boy. I wonder, if I told him about Eric ā whether heād follow in his fatherās footsteps. Still, thatās not like it kept Eric safe in The End.
(MAG146) ARCHIVIST: ⦠I never thought Iād miss those days, when I could throw out some half-baked speculation about drug abuse or mental illness, and whoosh, away all the statements went. There is⦠nothing in the world more reassuring than ignorance which we can mistake for certainty. But no. Almost every one of those statements, those⦠people⦠that poor old manā¦
(MAG147, Annabelle Cane) āAnd in that vast, dark space of ignorance lies⦠free will! Isnāt that marvellous, Jon? Free will⦠is simply ignorance. Itās just the name we give to the fact that no one can ever really see everything that controls themā¦!ā
(MAG148) ARCHIVIST: I honestly donāt care, if Mr. Maraj was chased down and consumed by his voyeuristic former friend, or if he has forgotten the whole affair, living in⦠blissful ignorance.
Iām a bit ? at the fact that Jon is still holding on to the idea that (feigning) ignorance can help, although itās been repeatedly demonstrated otherwise. Though with MAG146, it was akin to idealising the past: he was afraid already, back in season 1, and was just trying to not attract the attention of things out there by pretending he didnāt know anything, and it hadnāt worked. (Iām also a bit surprised that Jon is making the equation that knowledge/understanding/awareness fundamentally means Pain: both this and ignorance have been proven to not protect you, in this universe.)
- The⦠Martin mentionā¦
(MAG148) ARCHIVIST: [SIGH] ⦠Basira⦠BASIRA: Yeah? ARCHIVIST: Iāve been meaning to ask. The⦠tape. The one of the, uh⦠my victim. You said Martin gave it to you. BASIRA: [EXHALE] Yeah. ARCHIVIST: How was he? Hāhow did he look, was he, uh⦠BASIRA: I donāt know. I didnāt⦠see him. He just left it on my desk with a note. ARCHIVIST: Oh⦠Right. BASIRA: Yeah. ARCHIVIST: ⦠Can I ask what it saidā¦? BASIRA: Hum⦠Yeah. It said to, uh⦠āTalk to him.ā ARCHIVIST: [INCREDULOUS NASAL LAUGH] ⦠[INHALE, EXHALE] Iām gonna get something to eat.
1°) Still not 100% sure that Martin indeed decided to pass the tape to the other assistants, or if⦠someone decided for him when he was hesitating.
2°) ⦠not showing your face feels awfully Lonely, Martin D:
3°) Jon still gratuitously wondering about Martin for Unknown Reasons, uh.
4°) Ah. Ah. Ah. When Jon lost it at the āTalk to himā, I was reminded of many things:
(MAG039) ARCHIVIST: ⦠Why are you here Martin? MARTIN: Well, well, Prentiss is out there and you canāt run soā ARCHIVIST: I mean at the Archive in general. Why havenāt you quit? MARTIN: Are you giving me my review now? ARCHIVIST: No⦠Weāre clearly doing a whole heart-to-heart thing and, truth be told, the questionās been bothering me.
(MAG058) TIM: Look: I tried talking to Elias about it, but it doesnāt seem to do any good! MARTIN: Heās just under a lot of pressure. You know how messed up heās been since Prentiss. TIM: How messed up heās been?! MARTIN: Of course, Iām sorry ā sorry, I didnāt mean that you werenāt, justā TIM: No! Because I didnāt start stalking my co-workers! MARTIN: Maybe try talking to him.
(MAG065) TIM: Shut. up. ARCHIVIST: ⦠What? TIM: Shut up! Just stop talking. Iām sick of this, Iām sick of you! We didnāt kill Gertrude, and no one wants to kill you, you pompous idiot! [ā¦] After everything youāve pulled, you should be gone. But no. Instead, we all get to talk about how youāre feeling, because weāre worried about our stalker boss!
(MAG069) MARTIN: Not like Tim. ARCHIVIST: Hm. [SILENCE] MARTIN: ⦠Just talk to him, please. ARCHIVIST: I think weāve said more than enough. I doubt thereās much more words can do for us. MARTIN: You canāt⦠work together like this. ARCHIVIST: Ironically, I think working is all Tim and I can do together. [SILENCE] MARTIN: ⦠Look. Jon⦠when was the last time we all just⦠talked? Just talked, without all of thisā ARCHIVIST: Thank you for the tea, Martin. MARTIN: ⦠Oookay. Fine. [OPENS DOOR] Heās not wrong, you know. [CLOSES DOOR] ARCHIVIST: ⦠[SIGH] [WEAK VOICE] I know.
(MAG099) GEORGIE: Look, whenās the last time you spoke to someone who wasnāt me? ARCHIVIST: Thatās⦠I⦠IāI talked to Martin a, a⦠a⦠a few weeks agoā¦? GEORGIE: Did you talk to him? Or did he talk to you, while you tried to find a way to escape? ARCHIVIST: I⦠uh⦠GEORGIE: Look, youāre worried. I get it. But if you really think youāre turning into something⦠inhuman, you need people around you. You need anchors. ARCHIVIST: All my āanchorsā are just as deep in this as me. GEORGIE: Well, you still need them. ARCHIVIST: [SIGH] Maybe youāre right. I⦠Iāll talk to the others. [ā¦]
(MAG102) ARCHIVIST: Oh, and⦠I suppose I⦠I did tell Georgie Iād try to talk to Martin. [DEEP SIGH] [...] ARCHIVIST: Anāanyway, IāIāI should go. IāIāve got a few leads to follow up. MARTIN: Right, right. ARCHIVIST: Iām, Iām sorry, Martin. We havenāt⦠I know we havenāt talked much since⦠Sasha and everything. MARTIN: Well, I mean itās not too late, yāknow. Unless the world ends. [MARTIN LAUGHS NERVOUSLY] ARCHIVIST: Yeah.
(MAG116) BASIRA: Do you think he bought it? MARTIN: Weāll talk about it later. ARCHIVIST: I doubt weāll get time, we need to go. MARTIN: Itās fine. Weāve got this, okay. ARCHIVIST: [SIGH] ⦠Okay.
(MAG123) ARCHIVIST: I wish I could talk it through with Martin. ⦠Or Tim. [SHORT SAD CHUCKLE] Or Sasha. But we never really did that, did weā¦? ⦠Everythingās changed.
(MAG129) ARCHIVIST: I, er⦠I heard about your mother. MARTIN: ⦠Yeah. ARCHIVIST: I am⦠so sorry. [SILENCE] MARTIN: Thank you. [INHALE] Itās⦠[SHAKY EXHALE] Itās better, this way. ARCHIVIST: Ifāif you do need to talk, Iā MARTIN: I canāt. ARCHIVIST: No. No, oāof course.
⦠Martin who, unless there was a Plan going on and they were in a rush, had always pushed for talking, and who is currently absent and āsilentā.
- Update on That Little Soap Opera You Call An Archive and cat is out the bag about Elias being (having been?) Basiraās intel:
(MAG148) ARCHIVIST: You should have let me come with. BASIRA: No. Besides, he wouldnāt have seen me if I had. ARCHIVIST: I canāt believe youāve been seeing him all this time. BASIRA: Oh yeah! Thatās the terrible secret sabotaging the trust between us. ARCHIVIST: [SIGH] Did he mention it at all? My, uh⦠BASIRA: Oh, your new diet? Nothing useful. Didnāt seem too fazed by it. ARCHIVIST: [LONG SIGH] Right.
⦠I do agree that Jonās āsecretā is not comparable to Basiraās but. She really shouldnāt minimise the fact that she hid her connection with Elias from them: Elias admitted that he had needed her to go away to get Jon to go inside the coffin and learn to harness his powers further, meaning that no, Basiraās been played, and theyāve been going in the direction Elias was nudging them towards through his sessions with Basira. Thatās bad. And unless Elias was preparing Jon for The Dark with this (which he tried to imply, but Iām reaaaally not convinced given how⦠he only began to talk about that threat after Jon had expressed concerns about it), that means he had other plans.
Plus, Daisy picked up on the pattern of Jonās attacks pretty quickly; Elias probably knew, already, that there would be a third victim after the coffinā¦? And. Ssssssssssssssssh. Melanie and Daisy wonāt take the fact that Basira has been in contact with Elias kindly. At all. And theyāll be right to do so.
Confrontation probably incoming soon (since Daisy wasnāt aware of āFloydā in MAG147, which means⦠Basira has been keeping a lot of information from them), it. Probably wonāt be pretty. I would like to hope that Melanie&Daisy are a bit more suited to making things progress in a better direction (laying down unpleasant truths on the table but⦠in an actually helpful way) but⦠weāve never got that in TMA so far. Usually, when there is resentment, it explodes and it shatters things and relationships beyond repair.
- In fact, the way Basira has acted so far in season 4⦠is really reminiscent of how Elias had described Daisy?
(MAG082) ELIAS: You havenāt even followed up on any of the other potential suspects or leads, and shown no interest at all in the fate of Sasha James. All you care about is where Jon is, because youāve decided on a course of action, and youāre going to follow it through.
I wonder ā after Basira basically lost her centre of gravity (she thought Daisy was dead for seven months), did she try to act like she thought Daisy would haveā¦? She got the single-mindedness, the ruthlessness, the obsession with getting things done while not paying attention to her surroundingsā¦
The fact that she savagely came at Elias, and how she treated Jon this episode, really highlighted for me⦠how indeed, she has been an internal mess this season, trying to be in control and failing absolutely everywhere. She⦠didnāt achieve anything, didnāt get a āwinā? Elias explicitly told her that to get Daisy back, he needed for Basira to be away (like, RUDE.) because only Jon could pull that one off; he subsequently presented Jon has the only one able to āsee through The Darkā which, once again⦠didnāt leave a lot of space for Basira to do anything significant at all, except to be there and take care of some logistic matters. Before that: she had lost Daisy, she had seen Martin drift away, she was only witnessing Melanie getting frantic and angry. Melanie had been the one to stab Jared while Basira & Martin were trying to flee, and Helen was the one to trap him. Thatās a lot of⦠occasions to feel powerless and resentful ā and that might be why sheās exceptionally snappy at Jon right now, and not really able to connect anymore with Melanie or Daisy? Because the situation has gone totally out of her control, and she had to be in the one in charge while being faced, again and again, with the fact that she wasnāt managing to achieve anything?
- I extra-hope that Daisy and Melanie step in soon-ish, because it⦠sounds⦠like Basira is being accidentally toxic for Jon at the moment: sheās still partially counting on him and his powers to fight off other spooks (although aware of what it means), and Jon was trying to avoid the food analogy until she hammered it in ā he then⦠went with it, too, and sounded clearly resigned.
(MAG148) ARCHIVIST: [SIGH] Did he mention it at all? My, uh⦠BASIRA: Oh, your new diet? Nothing useful. Didnāt seem too fazed by it. ARCHIVIST: [LONG SIGH] Right. [ā¦] BASIRA: Yeah. Jon, weāve been over this. The ākeyā is to not force people to feed you their trauma. You know, just donāt do it. [ā¦] Any luck finding her? ARCHIVIST: I havenāt really been trying. Doing that sort of thing consciously, it⦠makes me hungry. BASIRA: Oh well, then find a statement to your taste, and read it. ARCHIVIST: Yes, yes, I know, thank you. [ā¦] ⦠[INHALE, EXHALE] Iām gonna get something to eat.
Melanie threw jokes around it in MAG147, and Jon had been using food analogies too before (+ both Mike and Jude presented it as āfeeding what feeds youā) but here⦠it really sounded like a capitulation, and I really donāt think that⦠presenting what Jon is doing as āeatingā is going to help them stop it. Making jokes about it has its limits (itās still a sore spot for Jon at the moment), and presenting it as āfeedingā isnāt really neutral, and only reinforced the idea that it would be an unavoidable necessity, when the point is to stop?
- And we got Jon, extremely⦠emotionally-stunned at the end of the episode:
(MAG148) ARCHIVIST: Does reading a statement of The Ceaseless Watcher count as a sort of⦠auto-cannibalism, I wonder? Or some sort of⦠bird-like regurgitation of Fear, re-consuming second-hand terror. ⦠Whatever the analogy, Iām finding it harder and harder to ignore the diminishing returns. How much less satisfaction each one gives me. My desire for āfollow-upā, for āverificationā, for⦠[HUFF] āproper digestionā⦠of the experience, it grows less and less. [ā¦] I just find my mind already wandering to the next statement, in the hopes that it wonāt be⦠quite as stale.
1°) ⦠I think this is the first time Jon has referred to The Eye as The Ceaseless Watcher, and WOOPS, because coming from him, it sounds a bit more⦠grandiose and my-patron than āBeholdingā or āThe Eyeā in passing.
2°) Indeed obsessed with the āfoodā and its quality, and disregarding entirely the grand pattern or the people hurt in the process. No mention that the manual could have been a Leitner; nothing about the fact that technology-based statements tend to be rare (he had told Tess, in MAG065, that they didnāt have many resources but that a student was dedicating their research to this). Nothing, just the statement, consumed without any appreciation or questioning, and the fact that it happened to someone⦠wasnāt enough to want to learn about it.
(3°) oh gods, his melodrama is definitely too much for me, though.)
4°) ⦠Current problem definitely sounds like heād āneedā a live-statement to properly heal after having watched The Dark Sun, back in MAG143? Jon did mention that he was not entirely back to shape. So. The problem, at the moment, really seems to be tied to him using his powers and the question is what will happen first: Jon having to use them again to neutralise something attacking the Archives or trying a ritual, or Jon attacking someone with A Story ā whether itās a civilian or an avatar?
- Lots to unpack here:
(MAG148) BASIRA: Yeah. Jon, weāve been over this. The ākeyā is to not force people to feed you their trauma. You know, just donāt do it. ARCHIVIST: Itās not that simpleā¦! BASIRA: No, it is. Or I put you down. [SILENCE] ARCHIVIST: ⦠Thatās⦠I mean, thatās hardly⦠BASIRA: Daisy has been managing. ARCHIVIST: Daisy is⦠[PAUSE] [SIGH] Yeah. Sheās managing. Did he say anything about Annabelle?
1°) Not The Right Way To Go, but I still feel like Basira got a point: if Jon doesnāt want to stop, if he doesnāt have any solution to stop, if he only spends his time repeating that he is unable to stop⦠then thereās nothing differentiating him from the other monsters? Although itās not helpful, itās not worded in a way that is even remotely contributing, itās absolutely savage, itās a bit transparent that Basira might be pissed at herself because the victims happened right under her nose while she was at the Institute (and she specifically let Floyd happen).
2°) Aaaaaaaaaand I can see where Basira is coming from, too: since, unless heās pretending right now, Jon⦠indeed didnāt know until this episode that Elias was Basiraās intel. And Basira had told him, sternly, to stop Knowing about her ā which he⦠did, in the end? He didnāt know about her activities, in the same way that he kept away from Martin? And he was using the same rhetoric with his Insights at first: that he couldnāt control it, that the droplets would sneak around the door anyway. But telling him off / giving him a motivation to stop⦠more or less worked? (He had random knowledge with Basira in MAG140, but not about the Broad Picture of her plansā¦?)
3°) Jon is not helping his case at all in the way he keeps repeating that he canāt really stop itā¦? Okay, so, Daisy had pointed out how Jon was casually self-destructive/prone to go for things that could kill him. But he sounded almost⦠defensive, here? I heard the beginning of his sentence, after the silence, as a shock because he didnāt think that what he had done (and was at a risk of doing again) warranted deathā¦? And what we really donāt need re:monster!Jon is for him to grow an active self-preservation instinctā¦.? But, Jon, indeed, what are your options other than stopping entirely or going full monster and being taken care of in a definitive way? Going after other spooks to feed (HI, PETER LUKAS IS RIGHT THERE)? Being sealed in the coffin again (but he managed to come out once, and he āhad regretsā about going inside ā he probably wouldnāt go willingly)?
4°) ā¦ā¦ā¦ā¦ā¦ā¦. Iāmā¦ā¦ā¦ā¦ā¦ā¦ā¦ worried about Daisyā¦ā¦ā¦ā¦ā¦ā¦ā¦ā¦ā¦.. I donāt know if Jonās half-sentence meant that Daisy is Having A Hard Time And Not Exactly Managing (managing to not hurt people, but being deeply affected in the process), or that Daisy has Basira and is not alone so that their cases are not comparable, or that Daisy didnāt give herself to The Hunt like Jon did to The Eye in his coma (and that Daisy could be removed from her patronās influence in the coffin; Jon was still using his powers inside, and found the way out thanks to them), or⦠that⦠Jon⦠knows something about Daisy⦠that we donāt know yet⦠which might be that Daisy has been Hunting again behind Basiraās back⦠(Iām especially worried because of the fact that Basira puts her as an example of actual success, Someone Managing To Step Away From A Fear⦠as if precisely, itās meant to be an illusion, and sheāll have to face that things are less pretty and hopeful than she thought. Basira has always been biased for Everything about Daisy: she was already⦠allowing Daisyās killings during her officerās day although she did have a strong sense of justice for other matters, and she was still taking Daisyās defence in MAG117.)
(But at the same time, it⦠would feel a bit pointless to me, if the overall conclusion was that there is no hope and nothing positive to achieve, that yes, Daisy should have killed Jon when she had an occasion; and Tim was right; and they all should have died in The Unknowing just like Tim did because you either become the hunter or the prey; and the things hurting and manipulating you are bound to successfully turn you into an uncaring predator, too�)
- Okay, so remember how Tim was giving off the feeling that he had Given Up, between MAG092 and MAG104? Thaaaaaaaaaaaatās Jon now.
(MAG148) ARCHIVIST: ⦠Whatever the analogy, Iām finding it harder and harder to ignore the diminishing returns. How much less satisfaction each one gives me. My desire for āfollow-upā, for āverificationā, for⦠[HUFF] āproper digestionā⦠of the experience, it grows less and less. I honestly donāt care, if Mr. Maraj was chased down and consumed by his voyeuristic former friend, or if he has forgotten the whole affair, living in⦠blissful ignorance. I just find my mind already wandering to the next statement, in the hopes that it wonāt be⦠quite as stale.
1°) But at the same time, oh my gods, just cut out the melodrama Ebony Darkāness Dementia Raven Way, seriously.
2°) Cutting the bird analogy because Jon. Donāt. Jon, gross, Jon.
3°) ⦠Same Guy who was complaining about His Feelings in MAG139 (around two months ago in-universe), so what the heck happened/is happening for Jon to just. Collapse like this.
One Thing We Know About Jon since season 1 is that inaction tends to take a big toll on him; while Basira remedies to it by trying to do anything, Jon⦠tends to be unable to focus on anything else once he has a Current Threat or an objective in mind (yes, Aza, I know, itās ADHD). He was extremely aware that they were waiting for Jane Prentiss to strike, and that they could only wait for her to make her move; he knew The Unknowing was coming and, even with their plan already laid out, he was restless waiting for the day; he repeatedly pointed out in season 4 how the fact that nothing was happening was becoming overwhelming:
(MAG031) ARCHIVIST: Itās⦠been two months now since Martin returned and we became the ones being⦠hunted. Are we being hunted? Martinās still living here, and Iām leaving less and less. The worms keep turning up. We kill them, but there are more each week. What is she waiting forā¦?
(MAG115) ARCHIVIST: Whatever Elias has Daisy doing, it seems to be working. Nothingās made a move on me or the Institute since I returned, and last time I saw her there was the distinct smell of burnt plastic. So I suppose Iām safe. But everything just feels like⦠killing time, running down the clock. I donāt think I like it. God, do Iā do I miss being chased? Thatās depressing. No, itās⦠I just miss feeling like Iām moving, like Iā
(MAG130) ARCHIVIST: ⦠Itās been two weeks since I heard from Basira. Iām not waiting any longer. Iām getting Daisy back.
(MAG135) ARCHIVIST: Canāt honestly say I blame them, none of this is easy. Everyoneās just trying to get through as best they can. Living one day at a time. [SIGH] But I canāt afford to be just living one day at a time, I need⦠a plan. But I donāt even know what Iām trying to achieve⦠And no one⦠no one wants to tell me.
(MAG137) ARCHIVIST: I feel like Iām on a deadline, like Iām running out of time somehow ā and I donāt even know where to go! What to look for, oāor⦠[EXHALE] Just casting around blindly for more clues to just⦠drop into my lap. Everyone else is⦠running towards something, or running away, and I⦠[SIGH] I donāt know what Iām doing. [PAUSE] [SIGH] Iām just tired. Think I might go lie down for a while. Get a cup of tea [HUFF]
(MAG145) ARCHIVIST: [SIGH] The more I listen and learn, the more it seems to me weāre all just⦠āgroping aboutā. Trying desperately to find out what weāre actually meant to be doing. [ā¦] But Iām really starting to worry that there arenāt any answers. Not like I want there to be. There arenāt any answers in Ny-Ć lesund; there arenāt any answers in the past; Iāve been inside The Buried, and there were no answers there. Elias always seemed to know what was going on, to have a plan, but⦠I sometimes wonder how orchestrated some of it really was. [ā¦] Itās just this nagging sense of unease that wonāt leave me. ⦠I was so sure Iād find something up there. But instead, it was just another broken person trying to come to terms with the wreckage of their life. And here? I reached out, I took another tape, eh!, hoping for a bit of guidance, but⦠[HUFF] To be honest, this hasnāt helped.
And a lot of things this season seem to have contributed to the aimlessness and the pointlessness. Jon managed to remove the Slaughter bullet from Melanie, and to get Daisy out of the coffin in the month following his awakening. Since then⦠Nothing tangible happened, and Jon has complained about his lack of goal; heās been aware that Martin is in a bad place, but has been stuck with his promise to trust him. Trying to take a peek through The Lonely backfired; going to Norway to fight The Dark turned out to be a letdown (and even the Dark Sun didnāt kill him); going to Hill Top Road didnāt help, Annabelle denied any Big Involvement; and now, even Elias seems⦠absolutely useless and out-of-his-depth.
So cumulating that with Timās recent death, Georgie deciding to stop trying to help him, the fact that Martin is actively not interacting with him, the fear of Something happening in 2018 for the Instituteās 200th anniversary (⦠well. Assuming that Jon is fearing that one and not enthralled by it.), the knowledge that heās Indeed Turning Into A Monster (which was⦠a gigantic concern of his, in season 3), and then the fact that nothing is leading anywhere, that there is no apocalypse to focus on and try to stop⦠there are enough elements for Jon to let himself sink and stop trying at all.
(Additional fear related to Jonās wording in that moment:
(MAG148) ARCHIVIST: How was he? Hāhow did he look, was he, uh⦠BASIRA: I donāt know. I didnāt⦠see him. He just left it on my desk with a note. ARCHIVIST: Oh⦠Right.
That was generic and all, but. Pointedly not āDid he look mad/disappointed/worried/tiredā etc. There is still the nagging fear that at some point, Martin would begin to appear in Jonās dreams because Beholdingās protection would fade away, and itās not going into that direction, and Jon has been Thirsty For Anything Martin all through this season but⦠Letās say that if, yeah, Martin was beginning to appear in his dreams: could be the final nail in the coffin (ha) to make him definitely unmotivated/depressed and make him give up on trying anything because there is no hope of anything feeling better ever again, uh.)
- While, at the same time, if there is no ācatchā to it, weāve had counterexamples of people who went through an awful place and⦠managed to fight back and (more or less) find their footing again. It took some efforts from Georgie! Melanie was hurt, manipulated into signing up with the Institute (we. still donāt know. what that static was, when Elias asked her if she wanted the job.), emotionally tortured (even if it was unrelated, it took 42 episodes for Elias To Get What He Deserved for that.), under influence⦠and acknowledged that it was her, was lost, and went to seek therapy ā and if sheās not currently being preyed upon again, or at least if her therapist is genuinely using their sessions as actual therapy⦠it seems to be doing wonders with her (sheās less aggressive while still snappy, more aware of her surroundings, able to word her discomfort ā itās not fixing her life but it seems to⦠help! And thatās the point of therapy, to give you tools or insights to regain some control over your life!). Daisy, if she hasnāt secretly fallen back to The Hunt, has been more peaceful, is trying to communicate, is staying away from what could make her snap or hurt her (trying to find company to chase the loneliness and The Buriedās flashbacks), and has been trying to pull Jon back up when she could (sharing her Archers listening with him, taking him out for drinks).
Basira and Jon are currently sharing the title of In The Worst Headspace in the team right now, and itās⦠probably an exceptionally bad idea to allow Basira to try to be the one monitoring him at the moment, although they donāt have many options. At the very least, she⦠doesnāt seem to be, at all, the one person he should be talking to if they want to avoid Jon sinking deeper. But Georgie, Melanie and Daisyā¦? Extra-hard for Georgie since:
(MAG094) GEORGIE: And I realised I was in my bed. According to my phone, I had been for several days. I numbly got myself some water, and ignored my weeping mother. She tried to hug me, but her arms just slid off my limp shoulders. And that was my life for several months. Eventually, the memory began to fade, and I started to feel again. I took the year out of university under the umbrella of āmedical reasonsā, and by the time I met you I was, well, I donāt think Iāll ever be the same person I was before, but I had started being able to actually live again. I never learned for sure what happened to the people in the Medical Science building, [ā¦] and I never saw Alex again. There was one thing that never returned to me afterwards, though. Since that day, Iāve never been able to feel afraid. My fearās just⦠gone. Iām not foolhardy. I can still recognise danger, and I understand the likelihood of harm, but actual fear? Simply not something I experience anymore. And Iāve never been able to figure out if it was cauterised, or⦠if it was stolen.
She Doesnāt Have To Do Anything For Him, but seriously, if someone has to remind Jon that āhey, I lost someone I cared about so much, my life became a mess, I became emotionally stunted, I even lost one of my Feelings forever, but I pulled through, and Iām still impacted, but I also have My Lifeā is not a fatality, and is good at giving valuable advice (/kicking Jonās butt in the right direction, whether he elects to ignore it or not)? There is Georgie Spooktacular Barker.
- So, overall, still! Findint! it! very! hard! to feel sad over Jonās current state since MAG141? I mean, I wasnāt even feeling !!! over the Martin mentions once the episode finished, because⦠Yes, I was immensely fond of the Jon->Martin bits this season, but I donāt especially care over Jon who only cares about Martin and not about victims, and is more interested in the Fears mechanisms at work and the statements-as-food than in the-victims-as-people?
(Because, like, yes, Jon has been through a lot in the first three seasons, he lost people he cherished, witnessed abominations, suffered and suffered, and being depressed is a Thing and makes everything hard. But in Jonās case, it now comes hand-in-hand with āhaving repeatedly hurt people, being aware that it was happening, liking it, trying to convince himself that he was mindcontrolled into doing it ā and still having hidden it from people who could have monitored him to ensure there wouldnāt be any further victimsā. Whatever Jonās reasons (denial, fearing he would be abandoned or the disappointment or to have to acknowledge that He Had Turned Into A Monster Like The Others, etc.), Iām still āMm-MMMMm.ā at the whole ordeal because, with the added bit of āI donāt want to stopā and him insisting that he canāt stop at will? There is nothing differentiating him from a serial killer or assaulter trying to present himself as The Victim Who Only Do These Things Because Of Uncontrolled Instinct And Who Has Had A Hard Childhood, while he⦠isnāt⦠the main victimā¦, and doesnāt deserve anything right now except to be stopped ā people need to be protected from him first, and I donāt feel like I can care much about his story or his Worry Over Martin when I know that heās hurt people, and that theyāre still being tortured (Jessā¦). Whether or not the Spooky Powers influence indeed pushed him to do it and itās actually impossible to truly fight against it⦠Jonās main fault, a fault that is his and his only, is truly that he hid what he had done from the others, and kept repeating to them that he could be trusted. That the first victim happened? He wasnāt prepared for that one, alright. The following four, nop, you tortured them, and the fact that it happened was absolutely your fault, Jon. And it doesnāt feel especially tragic or sad to me right now, just āshrugs, so thatās how it is? Yeah okay goodbye Jon, then, I guessāā¦?)
(Itās also Daisyās case! But Iām biased because 1°) a bit more impermeable to this rhetoric from a manās mouth, especially given how we learned it through a womanās recalling (and how heavily MAG142 just felt coded like a regular physical assault), 2°) we havenāt heard from one of Daisyās victims from their mouth, 3°) ⦠presumably, Daisy was only going for the kill with spooks-or-spooks-influenced-people-who-had-hurt-people; it was bad and Not Okay, even more given that she was still a police officer back then, but on the scale of atrocities, it still feels a bit less nauseating than going after innocents like Jon did, 4°) Jon is still currently the MC, so obviously, his actions and their consequences will get scrutinised a bit more since⦠itās āhisā story, first, and why does his story deserve to be told? 5°) Iām really expecting Daisy to die soon-ish, since she has a redemption arc-vibe to her, and it would already lay out the groundwork for a Satisfying Death ā whether she snaps again like she did in The Unknowing and has to be killed-killed for real, or sacrifices herself, or dies trying to achieve something Good but being prevented from it. ⦠But yes, Iām fearing a bit that weād get the testimony of someone explaining how Daisy had absolutely wrecked their life unwarrantedly a few years ago, at some point.)
(- I wonder if itās not Team Archivesā cue to⦠try to research about Adelard Dekker, though, if they want to find a way to stabilise Jon / ensure that he stops attacking people.
Because Annabelle Cane, whether sheās lying or not, claims to barely have intervened, and outside of ensuring that Jon stays alive, has certainly not been presenting herself as an ally, and is aware of Jon traumatising innocents but sees it (officially) as a Jon problem. Elias is (officially) a bust, and doesnāt care about Jonās rampages. Theyāve never met Peter Lukas, so canāt know if heās knowledgeable about other spooks (Martin knows but, also, Peter could be bullshitting as well as Elias ā and please, donāt ever tell Peter that he might be the Most Knowledgeable Guy around, or his head wonāt fit through that door). Whether we can trust that or not, the three of them claim to not be that much in control, and are certainly not Allies On The Side Of Not Hurting People.
Gertrude, Gerry and Leitner were the most knowledgeable people around, and they are already dead and definitely silenced (Jon has burned Gerryās page). But there is still Adelardās case: Jon knows that Adelard was collaborating with Gertrude in the business of stopping Spooks (binding the Not!Them to the table in MAG078ās statement, helping to move Gertrudeās things and to temporarily stop an avatar of The End in MAG114, contributing to stopping The Fleshās ritual attempt in MAG130). If Team Archives was searching for someoneās help to deal with Jonās current status, and their overall situation⦠heās currently their last resort?
Iām still expecting Adelard to be dead, by now, or to have turned into an Extinction avatar or something; and even if heās still around and mostly on the side of stopping the Fears⦠I doubt that he would be super receptive over the concept of āJon might be salvageableā. But if they have to seek out someone for Spooks-related help⦠he sounds like the best candidate.)
Title for MAG149 is⦠I donāt know, feels so non-threatening (well, like a ācasualā statement not having anything to do with the current Awful Situation) that my instinct is to think it may be a small respite, and my reasoning is to get Prepared to be slapped extra hard? I have⦠no clue about a potential āArchives lifeā meaning for this one (unless it takes place in a cafĆ© or something??).
It would be a good title for an Extinction statement, and weāre indeed due for Martinās meeting with Peterās āfriendā (and what does it say, that the episodes that potentially feel the less tense are about Martin and/or The Extinction?) ā Adelard, Salesa, Simon Fairchild, surprise!stillalive!Rayner, Martinās dad, another Lukas, Mr. Spider, Alfred Grifterā¦? If not, hum. Second half of the title has been used in the context of both Spiral and Hunt, and there is the potential musical angle (Iām not talking about āāON THE COLD HARD GROUND ā OH! (TROUBLE, TROUBLE, TROUBLE.)ā but that one crossed my mind too.) which makes me think of Slaughter. I⦠really⦠hope⦠itās not Hunt, because WorriedAboutDaisy and I see how it could fit, if it were to refer to her Hunting again ;;
(Still no love for Corruption in s4, but Anil has guaranteed that we havenāt Heard The Last Of It. I know that statistically, unless an episode contains multiple Fears, each one would be supposed to get less than 3 episodes per season for them to be Equally Represented but xā) Corruption got the short stick this season, uh.)