#kiwitakes

He’ll glare daggers at Phoenix and think ‘what a bum how did I ever look up to you’ but once Phoenix praises him and flashes him a sweet smile Apollo turns red and if he had a tail it’d be wagging. He looks away and can only mumble out a thanks.

Kristoph thinks Apollo is cute and Apollo thinks Kristoph is very handsome and beautiful but it is definitely very casual.

Despite that Kristoph gets angry when Apollo refers to it as “hooking up” because in his own words “that is a vulgar term that doesn’t accurately describe their predicament” combined with “I am no common whore Justice do not address our encounters like I am one”.

The power imbalance is really what gets Kristoph off. Yes he and Apollo are a decade in age apart but even then that is not what is attractive about their scandalous relationship. It’s the fact that Apollo is his subordinate AND a Phoenix wright fanboy. AKA Boss-employee and ego vs age gap. Because boss and ego is more interesting to me than age gap. That will play in later mainly with odonaru.

Krisnix is complicated. It’s a mix of genuine care and egotistical feelings plus a lot more. But Kristoph despite his and phoenixs “relationship” thinks Phoenix is below him, even if he has those moments of softness for the man, at the end of the day, he thinks he is better than Phoenix in every way.

Klapollo where Apollo is still a bit nervous to pull or touch Klaviers hair during sex. Because when he and Kristoph had sex, Kristoph forbade Apollo from touching his hair, let alone pulling it.

So when Klavier asks for Apollo to pull his hair Apollo has a bit of trouble. He can’t see Klavier face while in the position they’re in and he still looks so much like his brother from behind, it’s unnerving. So he pulls Klaviers hair hard in order to hear his moans and help ground himself.

imagining Apollo beginning work at Gavin Law Offices and a scruffy looking man starts visiting more and more after he's hired. The man doesn't stay long usually only a few minutes so Apollo should have no qualms about it, right? But the man stares at him with such curiosity and Apollo cant lie, it makes him hot and bothered.

Perhaps a month later Apollo is introduced to this mysterious man by Mr. Gavin. And Apollo is starstruck because its the Phoenix Wright! The man that originally inspired him to pursue law and the truth. (and of course a long time childhood crush)

He tries his best to act professional but of course he cant. His voices raises in pitch and even cracks. Throughout his conversation with Mr. Wright (Apollo cant just call him Phoenix!) he knows he's a blushing mess and speaking too loud but he cant help himself.

Phoenix thinks its incredibly endearing and cute. And he wont lie, being treated like a celebrity is doing wonders for his ego. Especially since any talk of his past between him and Kristoph is filled with cutting remarks about how "it would've happened eventually Phoenix given your sloppy work ethic".

As time goes on Apollos constant starstruck and admiring looks make Phoenix feel better and worse about himself simultaneously. Because of it Phoenix starts walking down a path of being too comfortable with Apollo.

Leaving touch's that used to just be friendly that now border on lingering for too long. Locking eyes with the young man until Apollo looks away with a flushed face. Joking with Kristoph and winking at Apollo. Hell even inviting Apollo to drink with him and Kristoph after a successful verdict.

AAtwt is frustrating because they immediately throw claims of people being incest fetishizers or pedos if people ship something they think represents these things, when in reality they don't

Like odonaru, some people genuinely believe IT IS CANON that Phoenix sees Apollo as his son and Apollo sees Phoenix as his dad. They can't understand or rationalize people have different views of these characters, views that in all honestly align more with actual canon than their own.

Apollo views Trucy as a little sister and Trucy views Apollo as big brother in canon. They are also siblings. THAT DOES NOT MEAN THAT PHOENIX MUST VIEW APOLLO AS HIS SON OR APOLLO SEES PHOENIX AS A DAD OR FATHER FIGURE.

Apollo is an employee/mentee/friend to Phoenix. Phoenix is a employer/mentor/friend to Apollo. Apollo has two fathers already.

Now does that mean that I don't think odonaru is a bit weird? NO! I do think it's weird and I like that! Especially since odonaru to me is more fwb situation than anything else. I like complex relationships with good people who do morally gray things.

You can think it's weird but people are not "bad people" or "fetishizers" for shipping these two. You can interpret their relationship as familial but it is not canon, nor heavily implied, and people are allowed to interpret it differently.

This also applies to ryulock. Iris sees Susato and Ryunosuke as siblings and Herlock is her father. That doesn't mean Herlock and Ryunosuke have to have the same traditional familial relationship.

Peoples minds explode when they realize your lover, best friend, and friends can be apart of your found family. And the relationship within that found family between each character is not strictly familial. Ex: your lover may be apart of your found family but you also have a sexual and romantic relationship. Ryulock can and do have different relationships with each other outside of other characters!!

Most of them can not handle simple age gaps relationships either. Some people think homumiko is weird or pedophilic because of their age difference and when they meet. It's the same reason they hate or think ryulock, asolock, ryumiko, and krispollo are all "proships". When they are at most morally dubious or "taboo".

anyway I may leave because most people are such buzzkills and can't understand people interpret media differently than them