kick and twitch the difference
Iām telling you straight, buckle up for this lengthy comment. Many Kick streamers defend the platform simply because theyāre receiving handouts. Theyāll lie outright to protect their perks. Iām here to tell it like it is. Iām the only genuine streamer on Kick who multi-streams and keeps it real. Iāve stayed authentic since the early days in 2022, and Iām the only one who hasnāt sold out to the platform. Iāll praise them when I see something positive, but if I donāt, I hold them accountable-unlike the meat riders on Kick. Because Kick pays you and gives you attention, youāre suddenly singing their praises. But as OGs of Kick, we have a different story. Itās astonishing how much Kick exploits people, manipulates them, and sucks up to anyone willing to follow their narrative. Those of us whoāve been on Kick longer have been treated differently, and we have our own stories to tell.
Kick is shady. They lie. Youāre selling your soul, whether you realize it or not. If you knew what they do behind the scenes and how much they suppress streamers, youād think twice. You even admitted they gave your partner front-page exposureāthatās proof theyāre trying to buy your loyalty. You think theyāre better just because they shower you with perks. Kickās front page is bottedāit always has been. Between August 1 and 4, I had a ton of active chatterboxes, but Kick nerfed mine for no reason. Iām the only streamer on Kick who doesnāt bot and has spoken out against viewbotting. Now, staff are targeting me because they donāt want more people telling the truth. Even your own streams on Kick are heavily bottedāthe chat is just spammed emotes, and it moves much slower than your Twitch chat.
I think Twitch is better, and hereās why. I took a break from Twitch in 2022 to grind on Kick. Twitch never touched my achievements. I could take years off from Twitch, and my stats would still be there. But Kick? They mess with your stats and lie about it. When I asked a prominent Kick streamer, they showed me screenshots proving their stats werenāt touched or reset after 30 days. But when I reached out to support, the staff gave me a generic copy-paste response, claiming it resets after 30 days. Yet, I was in a new month with 68 chatterboxes, and on August 4, they nerfed it to 22. Thatās definitely Kick staffās doing since they control the coding-I canāt influence that. To this day, they havenāt fixed it. Iāve asked every streamer I know on Kick if their stats were ever reset, and they all said no-everything intact. So why only mine? Because they hand-pick people they donāt like, especially those outspoken about their viewbotting problem.
Kick viewbots their front page, and Iāve noticed that when Eddie himself raids, those bots donāt transfer. A front-page streamer I know raided, and none of their front-page viewbots came through because the bots are bought specifically for that channel. A legitimate platform wouldnāt suppress people who speak up about it. On Twitch, Iāve called out streamers for viewbotting, and Twitch never blacklisted or suppressed me-they actually appreciated my reports. On Kick, however, a streamer even showed her viewbotting software live on stream, which trended for both Twitch and Kick. Twitch banned her, but Kick rewarded her with a Stake deal, and to this day, sheās never been banned.
This shows Kickās lack of integrity. This streamerās video (copy-paste this link) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mv2RfRCIZQM and her Kick channel still stands: https://kick.com/queengloria.
To this day, sheās still not banned and continues viewbotting on Kick. When Twitch saw that video, there was no question-instant ban for tampering with viewership. But Kick? They reward people like her with partner and verified status.
This has been ongoing since 2022, and now, in 2025, they keep hiding behind the ābetaā excuse. Viewbotting violates their own Terms of Service, and that should be non-negotiable. Kickās TOS changes constantly because they copied it from Twitch, typos and all. I even saw them fix those errors later. They donāt enforce their own rules-itās all for show. Words mean nothing; actions do. Most Kick moderators are biased. Nothing you report gets addressed-you just get the same copy-paste response every time. Eddie himself is biased. Anyone who challenges him faces defensiveness and suppression. Iāve seen plenty of OG streamers silenced by him personally for calling out Kickās shady practices. Then Kick goes into damage control, making excuses while inviting only those who align with their narrative. Iāve never seen them bring in anyone unbiased, critical, or independent-only those who play along and keep up the act.
Youāve done zero research on Kick. If you dig deep on X, youāll find plenty of leaks. Better yet, talk to the Kick OGs who witnessed everything and tried to help the platform. I have screenshots of Kick staff messaging OnlyFans streamers in their chats, telling them to mention the stafferās name in their partner application emails to get approved faster. Thatās favoritism and creates an unfair disadvantage. There are plenty of receipts showing how Kick staff operate, and they do damage control by inviting Twitch streamers to distract from these issues. I remember they had a vouching system for verified channels on Discord, but they purged it to control the narrative and deny it ever existed. I have screenshots of a first-class streamer admitting she used that system to get her friends verified and partnered. Nobody gains anything organically on Kick-itās either viewbotting, vouching, staff favoritism, or friends already partnered vouching for others. The internet is forever, but people are gullible and donāt do their own research. They suck up to get money, sell their souls, and donāt ask tough questions or hold Kick accountable.
Kick brags about viewbotting, calling it ācope.ā Theyāre unprofessional about it because they know itās happening. They always bring up Twitch, but weāre not talking about Twitch right now-weāre talking about Kick. They started botting their own platform to boost its visibility, and theyāre still doing it, especially on the front page. They even reward people who do it. I know many streamers personally who viewbot to get into KCIP, and Iāve called them out. You have to be someone prominent to get botted, but when youāre a small streamer, their excuse that āsomeoneās botting youā is absurd. Sites like botted.wtf use Kickās own public API data to show how many streamers are botting-many of whom are partners. Thatās how Kick found some of them in the first place. They know itās happening; they just donāt care. The creator of botted.wtf even emailed them, offering to fly to their HQ to help fight the problem. Kick declined because theyāre complicit. Iāve suggested adding a public viewer list since day one, and I still have all those emails with Kick staff, but they get defensive-because theyāre hiding something. If they werenāt, they wouldnāt mind adding a viewer list. People like me, who arenāt gullible, donāt need a viewer list to spot viewbotting. But for those too entrenched to see it, a viewer list would make it obvious. Notice how partnered viewbotting streamers always have an issue with itāthey know it would expose them. They also dislike Whiz because heās exposed them on his list, which uses Kickās own API data-you canāt fake that. People arenāt blind; they see the chatters are just spamming emotes. Some botters have even admitted to Whiz in private Discord DMs that theyāve botted their Kick chat-he showed me those messages.
Streamers always use the same excuse: āTheyāre just lurking.ā Some have been using that line since 2022, others since 2023. Itās a tired defenseāālurkers,ā even when the math doesnāt add up. Ten people typing with 1,000 viewers? Come on. Thatās like saying your dog ate your homework. When you reach out to support, you get dismissive copy-paste responses like, āWeāve forwarded this to staff.ā I have over a thousand of those emails, and Iām happy to leak them to show how poor Kickās support is. Most of their staff donāt speak proper English, so they rely on canned replies. These are people hired from failed platforms like DLive and Trovo, who already did a poor job there, which is why those platforms died under their management. Early on, Kick hired streamers as staff with zero experience. The problem lies with Kickās management. Theyāre friends with streamers, so they donāt punish them for viewbotting or cheating their way into KCIP or verified status because they donāt do their research. Even platforms like https://streamscharts.com/ count the bots.
Kickās biggest issue is moderation. They donāt hold anyone accountable, even with proof. The coder who created botted.wtf tried to help Kick because he knows the data better than their staff, who were recruited from failed platforms and barely speak English. Check WhizKick on X for context-heās posted about it. One Kick staff member even insulted him because he didnāt like WhizKick exposing the truth. Kick staff are clueless-they donāt even realize viewbot numbers are counted on sites like StreamCharts. The platform is run by amateurs. They intentionally suppress and nerf my account but not others, which speaks volumes about their character, especially since Iām the only one not botting. Iāve even been harassed for calling out viewbotters I know are botting. They hand out front-page spots like candy, and those pages are always heavily botted. You can tell by the chat: nothing but repetitive emote spam from the same accounts. Every Kick streamer you click on has botted chats with spammed emotes. Many are live at the same time, using chatbot software to spam emotes for them while theyāre mid-game. Iāve personally witnessed one streamer do this to another.
Even big streamers like Nickmercs had the same issue on Kick. But now that heās back on Twitch, you can see real conversations in his chat. Itās laughable how gullible some Twitch streamers are. The moment they get a front-page spot or an invite to talk with the CEO and Santamaria, theyāre instantly manipulatedābecause theyāre new and unaware of Kickās history or ongoing issues. I was all in at the start, but Iāve seen too much, and Iām still seeing it now. They donāt want me to grow or get verified because Iāve been outspoken against viewbotting. Meanwhile, streamers who get vouched for, simp for staff, or kiss up get fast-tracked. They donāt like me because I see through them. They claim people ādonāt respect the platform,ā but itās because of their shady practices. This is why major sponsors and big companies avoid them. Instead, they use smaller streamers as bait to lure in big names. Theyāve never been for us-all they care about is buying loyalty and showering people with perks.
All the OGs got screwed over by Kick. Now, the so-called āfirst classā and āsecond classā streamers are starting to complain about the same treatment. Iāve been trying to tell them: Kick has never been on your side. They just use people to get to the ones they really want. When they landed Adin Ross, Asmongold, and xQc, they made it clear how little they care about small streamers. The truth is, Kick would be nothing without us. Itās ironic to see streamers who never got front-page or verified status organically now complaining that Kick purged the Discord because they lost easy access to staff. This proves my point about how these streamers get things handed to them.
Iād rather keep Twitch as my main platform, like always, and multi-stream from thereāat least Twitch is transparent about splitting. They donāt viewbot their own platform like Kick does. If someone gets caught viewbotting on Twitch, they face consequences. Yes, some of Twitchās rules are flawed, but Iād still take that over Kickās shady operations. Every time you bring up viewbotting on Kick, they deflect and mention Twitch. Weāre not talking about Twitchāweāre talking about Kick. Why backpedal? Yes, Twitch has botters too, but they ban them when reported and caught. Take QueenGloriaās case: a 4K clip showed her botting live on stream. On Twitch, thatās an instant ban, no debate. On Kick? Nothing. No problem at all. I wouldnāt be surprised if Kick suggested that botting site to her in emails. Theyāre capable of it-they bot their own platform to inflate numbers. I know verified Kick accounts belonging to people who have never streamed a day in their lives. Why would those accounts be verified unless Kick is verifying bot accounts to brag about their āhuge number of verified usersā? Iāve reported those accounts with zero stats, but Kick hasnāt banned them or fixed the issue. Meanwhile, accounts on X are selling āKick verificationā to anyone. Thereās a lot of shady stuff going on that people refuse to believe-mostly because theyāre too busy enjoying free perks and attention.
Kick loves silencing people. They suppress anyone who speaks up and protect those who align with them. Those getting perks are quick to shut down anyone with a different story because I donāt kiss up to get handouts. They defend their perks, but when things donāt go their way, they cry about purged Discord channels or not getting front-page spots. Theyāre ungrateful, even after getting everything handed to them. I keep it real. I donāt drag other creators down or die for a platform like they do. They love to blame Kickās victims-those who get treated poorly for no reason, just for following the rules and not botting like other streamers or the platform itself. When things go wrong, Kick doesnāt care. Just like Twitch didnāt care when Doc, Nickmercs, or other big creators left. No platform needs any creatorātheyād be fine without us. But when creators attack others for sharing their stories about how Kick treats them, theyāre the first to defend because theyāre getting paid and told by staff to go to war for them. There was even a Discord channel where admins held meetings and told people to harass me. An ex-Kick staff member came forward and revealed how staff openly said racist things behind the scenes, but Eddie did damage control. Now, more people are noticing as KCIP members on X complain about not getting their way with Kick anymore. When we OGs from 2022 tried to warn them about how Kick exploits and uses them, they didnāt listen. Now I can say, āI told you so.ā They deserve whatās coming for all the harm theyāve done to me. Karmaās real, isnāt it?
The real problem is people selling their integrity for a platform that doesnāt care about them once they get the streamers they want. Theyāll attack creators grinding hard just to protect their Kick perks. These streamers are narcissistic-willing to lie for the platform to keep their front-page spots or Stake deals. I miss when creators supported each other and didnāt turn on one another for platforms that drop them as soon as they get who they want or when things go south. Kick has never been for small streamers. They always planned to use us to get to bigger fish. They bring in Twitch streamers who donāt care about the platform-just looking to get paid. When things slow down and their chats are botted, they bounce back because sponsorships arenāt coming in. No big company wants to touch Kick because of the degeneracy, lack of accountability, and rampant botting. Kick streamers clout-chase hard, cozying up to people like Kai Cenat to boost their image or seem legit. Small companies or energy drink brands donāt mean much. Major players like Samsung, Elgato, and others look to Twitch, YouTube, and some to X. Orgs simp hard because some female streamers blatantly viewbot-you can tell by the emote spam and dead, slow chats, way too slow for their claimed viewer counts. These orgs and smaller energy drink companies donāt do their research either. Iāve seen so much clout-chasing from Kick streamers because theyāre not getting real opportunities-because Kick never addresses allegations and refuses to change. Theyāre a brand risk. If I were Samsung, Elgato, or Monster Energy, I wouldnāt touch them either. Thatās just business.
After three years, Kick still hasnāt improved or built a reputation that companies can trust for deals. Early on, streamers complained about Kick cons and begged for events instead of building a solid reputation to earn drops organically. Getting drops on Kick isnāt easyācompanies donāt hand out games for free. Many streamers donāt understand how business works. For Twitch, it took years to get drops because they have policies and donāt tolerate degeneracy or constant viewbotting. Companies watch closely, and Kick rewards bots instead of stopping them. Kick streamers clout-chase because theyāre struggling to get things organically, and Kickās reputation is poor. Thatās on them-they refuse to improve or elevate the platform.
Iāve been suggesting features while others begged for handouts. I still have all the emails between me and Kick. I suggested channel points, name tags in titles, and a better dashboard. Early on, an admin visited my chat, and I showed them in detail how we should be able to move tabs. Even Santamaria screenshot my suggestion to edit channel points. Every time Santamaria goes live, I see Kick partners sucking up to him. I havenāt seen them make suggestions-all I see is a āme, me, meā attitude. I have emails proving how much Iāve contributed to feature feedback. While others in those purged Discords asked for favors and features, Iāve never been featured or asked for handouts. Everyoneās selling their souls on Kick. Iād rather have zero or one viewer than bots watching me like them. You can tell by their faces-entire Kick streamers rely on gifted subs from Eddie because of how much they suck up to him. They live off gifted subs since there are no ads, and not everyone is keen to subscribe. Their regulars gift chats, and many KCIP members post on X that not everyone makes much money either. You have to be glued to your chair with no life to make significant money, and thatās unhealthy.
No streamer has ever blown up from Kick. Bringing in established Twitch streamers isnāt impressive. Pokimane called out Kick for importing Twitch stars instead of building their own community, and I agree with her. Sure, some big Twitch names bring followers wherever they go, but no Kick streamer has gone from small to big on the platformāno one has reached Kai Cenat or Adin Rossās level. That hasnāt happened, and itās 100% Kickās fault. Theyāre so focused on pulling Twitch streamers that they donāt grow their own creators. With all the bots lurking, itās nearly impossible to break out organically on Kick. Most Kick streamers get deals through other social media because Kick isnāt listed on partnership or sponsorship applications. When I applied for Epic or Ubisoft, Kick wasnāt an option. I got my partnerships through Twitch. Iāve spoken to Epic and Ubisoft- they focus on Twitch, YouTube, TikTok, and Instagram. Kickās not on their radar. Kick streamers lie about getting deals through Kick- I know they use other platforms to land those. Legit company applications ask for your Twitch, Instagram, or TikTok handle never Kick. Thatās just facts.
Itās all Kickās fault. They refuse to change despite knowing about the massive botting problem and rewarding it. When Myron discussed it publicly on his podcast and solo stream, exposing Kickās fake views, it didnāt help their case. People watch these big creators and see why companies wonāt touch Kick. They wonāt revoke KCIP or verified status from those who gained it through botting or vouching, so companies donāt trust them. Thatās how business works. Companies donāt want to be scammed or give free products to creators who cheat to get ahead. Only small, lesser-known energy drink companies will deal with them because theyāre desperate. Big companies like Twitch, YouTube, and TikTok enforce bans for breaking Terms of Service. Viewbotting is illegal, and the FTC is on Twitchās case-thatās why they added ātampering with viewershipā as a report category. Kick does nothing about it because itās covered by Stake. As a non-American company, Kick may avoid dealing with the shady stuff. Plus, Kickās tied to Stake, a gambling-heavy site heavily pushed on the platform. Every Kick deal comes with gambling attached. Nickmercs, for example, wasnāt a gambling streamer on Twitch but had to start because itās in his Kick contract. The same applies to any Twitch streamer who returnedāthey had to gamble because itās heavily enforced. Anyone with a Kick or Stake deal, even if theyāre not into gambling, gets pulled in. Iāve seen kids gambling live on Kick, and they did nothing about it. Yet they wonder why people criticize them.
Twitch degenerates flocked to Kick because they couldnāt get away with viewbotting there. Twitch denied their partnership applications. I know a first-class Kick partner who complained because she was botting on Twitch too, and they rejected her. Those not caught havenāt been reported yet. But Twitch now posts on X that theyāll combat viewbotters. Twitch will act if you press them, but Kick refuses they backpedal and bring up Twitch when weāre discussing Kickās failure to enforce against viewbotters. Some lost their Twitch partnership right after getting partnered on Kick. If you havenāt lost yours, youāre lucky-Twitch just hasnāt noticed your Kick deal yet. But once someone reports you with proof of your Kick partnership, youāll lose it. Twitch allows multi-streaming, but you canāt openly promote Kick while under contract with both. Good luck when they come for you or pray they donāt notice. Many āfirst-classā Kick members lost their Twitch badges upon getting Kick partnered. Some no longer have their checkmarks, and others are just waiting to get caught.
Kick should be a backup, a multi-stream platform. Twitch and YouTube should be the main stage for legit deals and sponsorships or to be taken seriously. Iām ready for the Kick defenders and simps to flood my comments. If this even gets approved knowing how many get perks from Kick but suppress real talk while they preach freedom of speech on their streams but silence the truth. As long as theyāre riding Kickās coattails, they know theyāll get their perks and front-page spots. This is what happens when streamers sell their integrity for a front-page spot and a few bucks per hour streamed. Iām pretty sure this comment wonāt even go through, especially since youāre getting paid by Kick.
You need do deep research X has all the leaks of how kick staff been giving hands out also if watch Santamaria u can quickly notice all kcip meat riding. lots of emote spam chatbots.











