INDIE BAND OF THE WEEK: ZFG
Sometimes you have to fight for your right to go against the grain. Do it differently. March to the beat of a different drummer. There is NOTHING wrong with it. Even though some people may look down their noses at you for being too âthisâ or too âthatâ, DO YOU. Just DO you. How? Hakuna Matata?
No. By giving absolutely no fucks.
This indie band of the week is starting out and is slathered with all the indicators that make us scream, âFuck yeah!â at the top of our lungs and hail the mighty powers that have bestowed upon us the music that makes us throw our heads back and forth. Their single âSpecialâ landed among the Top 10 Greatest Gainers on BOTH the Billboard Indicator & Foundations Chart! Um, YES!
Based out of Los Angeles, ZFG is Jules Galli (vocals), Trev Lukather (guitar), Sam Porcaro (bass), and Josh Devine (drums). These guys were tight, but when they decided to get into the studio with a new approach in mind, ZFG was born.
We had the absolutely pleasure of chatting up Mr. Devine (Josh) about everything that makes ZFG tick! READ!
Alright. I hate asking this question but tell me a little bit more about ZFG â Zero Fucks Given. I mean: New Band, New Year. Tell me more about how you went into the studio and said, âYou know what? This is it! Weâre going to go for gold!â
Yeah well, Trev Lukather and I met a couple of years ago and weâd always been big fans of each otherâs playing. Thereâs a lot of respect and weâd always say to each other, âHey! We need to be together in the studio and do some fun stuff and just write stuff that weâre really digging.â
We both had our own projects going at the time; we both played for other artists at the time. It was all still very pop oriented and more for what the market was wanting and what was going to sell â all that kind of stuff. One day we just said, âYo, letâs just get in and letâs just create some music that weâre big fans of.â You know? No rules or anything like that. It kind of all came to life.
You said no rules. Tell me what rules you broke to make ZFG âZero Fucks Givenâ come to life.
Usually, when youâre writing with artists or youâre getting into the pop game, everything is just âthe song needs to be this longâ or âwe want to shy away from this type of genreâ, âwe donât want to have this kind of music,â âwe need to keep it friendlyâ. Thereâs all these kinds of norms and we just decided, âYou know what? Screw this! Weâre just going to get in, keep it live, keep it real, keep it very authentic. Itâs going to be hard driven, itâs going to be live drums. Weâre not going to do these drum machines or copy and paste on the computer like most sessions are these days.â So, yeah it really just came to life very naturally as well. When Jules came into the mix and we got him on to do some vocals, everything changed. His voice has this real RnB kind of soul twist to it, so everything kind of changed again. And then when Sam came into the mix and started playing, we were told to pocket this guy. He just brings the grooves and heâs such a pleasure to play with as a drummer. Playing with Sam on bass, itâs like the stuff we get to do together just changes the vibe again. So it stopped being a straight all out rock band and became a kind of new kind of funky RnB sounding rock stuff. Itâs very apparent in the rest of our music that weâve been recording. Weâre definitely exploring those avenues. We just kind of thought, you know, no rules, no conforming to what anyone wants us to do. We just want to do exactly what we want to do.
Did you all do your own production?
Yeah well, we were working with some producers in LA, but we always co-produce everything. Because at the end of the day, itâs nice to have an outside ear to come and say, âHey! Have you guys thought about this or have you thought about that?â But quite honestly, we want it to just be exactly how we envision it. So, quite honestly, itâs a lot better to just produce it ourselves to really get the results we want. Thatâs something about the band: weâre all very in tune with this. We all know what we want and collectively, we all very much have the same vision going forward. So itâs very easy to create with these guys. Itâs definitely a dream scenario.
It sounds like it evolved while you were recording.
It did. We were coming up with basic concepts and then as soon as we got into the studio, everything keeps evolving, everything keeps changing. Its old school in the way we do it. Like on âSpecialâ we werenât even really going to do that song, but then we just sort of started jamming the riff and Jules just started riffing on that and we were like, âHoly shit! What is this?â And we literally on that day built the whole track. I went in and just started laying down the drums with Sam playing bass and yeah we kind of built the track then and there on the spot. It was very natural, very organic. It wasnât like a planned thing where, as some of the other stuff, we sit with them, get the lyrics done and then we build the song around it. This one was very standout, it was brilliant.
Was âWholeheartedâ the same way?
âWholeheartedâ was a little bit different. We originally sat down with an acoustic and Jules came over (Trev and I live together) to our place and we just spent a good four hours that night writing. I think that we must have written 3 or 4 songs pretty much fully in those hours. That was a little bit different. But again weâre not boxing ourselves in. If the moment takes us where we write it on an acoustic and with voices or something, we do it that way. If weâre in the studio and we start jamming as a full band, itâs all also â as you say, no rules.
You all come from other musical backgrounds, so how is this a different experience?
I mean, for me personally, Iâve always been a hired gun. Iâve always played for other artists. Iâve played everywhere in the world for massive artists and Iâve done rap, Iâve done pop, Iâve done rock; everything you can imagine. But for this, itâs so different. Itâs my baby. Itâs all of our, like, love child! Itâs really different and interesting as now the pressure is on because actually Iâm not just playing for other bands and helping build a brand. Weâre kind of building our own and everything is on the line. Weâre vulnerable; this is us! People get to look into us and itâs very different. I was blessed to be able to go and tour the world for five years with One Direction, but that is completely different from touring the U.S. at the moment with ZFG. Itâs just a completely different kettle of fish, but itâs great. Iâm loving it. Loving everything second of it.
It sounds like you feel more connected.Â
Completely! I mean itâs just nice to be creatives. Because being a hired gun, youâre kind of told, âthis is what we want you to play and you can dance around this and you can do this but this is the song, this is how we want you to play it. Now put your spin on it.â Whereas for this, itâs like âOh! This is MY song. I want to play it THIS way. Trev wants to play it THIS way. Jules wants to sing it THIS way and Sam wants to play it THIS way. So letâs do it!â Thereâs no one telling us what to do. This is just all of us going, âThis is whatâs best for the song and this is how weâre going to do it,â and thatâs a beautiful thing.
It sounds like it. Does it feel more satisfying?
Completely. Itâs very fulfilling. I mean, even though we havenât had success like Iâve had personally and Julesâ had personally doing other things â weâre not playing in front of 86,000 people yet. Itâs still satisfying even to have 100 people in a room singing the words back to you; thatâs pretty glorious
Absolutely. Do you feel more connected, not just to your band, but to your audience?
Yeah completely! I mean I think people really can tell itâs authentic. And when people really do something, especially with this kind of music, people dedicate their lives to this kind of stuff. Itâs just such a beautiful thing. I feel very connected to everyone that really wants to support. Weâve had overwhelming amounts of support from fans and people who havenât even heard of us before individually, and they hear the band and theyâre like âMan! This is something I really can get behind!â Especially people that donât really dig rock music. Most of my friends back home arenât into that kind of genre. Theyâre listening to it like âMan! I think I like rock music now, this is great!â Thatâs kind of a really really humbling thing.
Youâre introducing rock to the masses and that IS a great thing.
Yeah, I mean at the end of the day, I grew up on rock. Trev and Sam grew up in rock. The thing that we love to hear is people saying that weâre helping to push rock into their lives. Thatâs a huge amazing thing. Itâs overwhelming.
Absolutely. I read that you all played âSpecialâ for Gene Simmons. What was that like? That must have been an experience.
It was funny actually. We were rehearsing in north Hollywood and KISS were rehearsing in the room next door. So weâd periodically get out of playing our own songs, go stand outside their door and hear them play like all the classics and weâre like âHoly shit! This is so sick!â And our manager John disappears for like two minutes and weâre just jamming and he walks back in with Gene Simmons, weâre like âWhat?â Heâs like âYo. This is Gene. Heâd like to hear you in play. Weâre like âOh okay. Letâs play âSpecialâ Letâs do it.â He was very very funny â very much as you would expect. He gave us some great advice and yeah we had a laugh. He definitely lived up to the rockstar legend expectation as youâd imagine
What advice did he give you?
More than anything, âYou guys sound great but how are you going to make money?â
There you go. Like a businessman.
Yeah. I mean we definitely feel like he threw us a bone as well. We actually an ANR from the label in there with us, checking us out and he just looked to the ANRÂ and he goes, âyou best get these guys the biggest fucking advance.â And we were like âYESS! Gene Simmons! This is great!â
It was really good. It was one of those funny moments where he walks out and youâre like, âDid we just play for Gene Simmons? This is crazy!
You played for a legend. It must say something that Gene Simmons is listening to you.
Well yeah and we took a little video and I think the video is up on YouTube Iâm sure. Heâs definitely standing there, stern face, and crossed-arms, but I promise you, he was enjoying it. He said he enjoyed it. It may not look like it by the image unless he was just being nice to us, but I very much doubt it.
Tell me about the lyric video for âSpecialâ. How did that concept originate?
Well, our manager was like, âHey! We should do a video. I think itâs too early to do a proper good video. Letâs get like a lyric video â give people a taste. We got to get up on YouTube anyway.â And he found the guy that built this video for us. I remember the guy sent us like 30 seconds previews saying, âHey! Just spent some time on this, tell us what you think.â And we watched like 30 seconds of it and we were like, âDamn this is something special! No pun intended.â
There you go! So you all didnât have a hand in it. It was just basically the guy that came up with this concept and it worked.
I would love to say that we were working on the vision we were building for this is this, but no we had nothing to do with that. The guy was like âHey! This will work. This is really cool.â We just agreed like, âDamn! This is great!â
Sometimes you just got to let the pros do what they do.
Exactly, I mean at the end of the day, you go into a tattoo artist and say, âHey! I want you to draw this line slightly thickerâŠâ and you kind of give them the idea, but you let the pros do it. Thatâs their job. We just did the same thing.
Right! Like if I had a surgeon, I wouldnât tell them how to do it. They know what theyâre doing.
Exactly. Thatâs their lane, let them do it so it can come out better.
There you go. You are on tour with Adelitaâs Way.Â
Yes so we just left yesterday. Weâve got a long ass drive to Texas thatâs for sure.
Oh my gosh! And Texas is HUGE!Â
Yeah. I mean last time I did Texas, I did it in a tour bus, so I could just fall asleep but weâre not doing it in a tour bus this time so Iâm actually going to see all the in-between bits, so Iâm realizing how far way everything in America really is.
I mean, I come from England, and itâs like tiny. You can drive across the whole country in a day.
Oh yeah. The U.S. is huge. I know from where Iâm at, it takes me a good 16 hours, if not more to get to San Antonio. Yeah and Iâve made that drive in a day.
Oh my god. Iâm pretty sure you could go from my hometown Bournemouth which is in the south coast to the top of Scotland in 14 hours and thatâs like journeying across two countries, itâs ridiculous.
But it sounds more impressive when you say it that way that you go across two countries. When you say you go from like one state to the other, it doesnât feel that big.Â
Itâs all crazy. I can understand now why 40% of Americans donât even have a passport. To be honest, you guys have got everything here, you can do anything and go anywhere with half the climate.
Absolutely. If Iâm craving the beach, I can go south.
Yeah its nuts. Absolutely nuts.
So youâre starting off on this tour. You all are not unfamiliar with tour life, so what are you expecting and then what would you like to have happen? Like what are you dreaming for?
Iâm expecting this is isnât going to be like the tours Iâve done personally. I feel like Iâve been very spoiled. The first major tour I ever had, we were taking busses and jets. It was the Rolls Royce of touring Iâd call it. Now this is going to be definitely the other side of that, but Iâm expecting to have a good laugh. I mean at the end of the day, we all get on as friends so the banter is there. Weâve been on this for a day already and weâre cracking up at every opportunity, itâs so much fun. So yeah, weâre just expecting to have a good laugh, to hopefully win some fans over and some new people check us out and hopefully dig what weâre doing. The dream is obviously that weâre going to just keep touring so we can do bigger shows, and yeah, weâll see how far this crazy rides takes us.
Sounds amazing. So did you know that thereâs a ZFG pale ale brewed out of Hidden Springs in Tampa Florida?
Yeah itâs⊠Iâm just curious because I was doing some research trying to find more information about you all and the first thing that comes up is this beer, I think yaâll need to try it.
Damn alright! I mean I have to hit them up and say yo thereâs some mutual benefit going on here, we need to co-brand some stuff. That sounds great.Â
I think you need to. Because-
Iâm going to take a leaf out of Gene Simmons book and start thinking about expanding the empire!
There you go. Itâs not a terrible thing to have it be a beer, you know what I mean? It could be good.
Yeah I mean, we all take beer. That sounds like a logical progression.Â
Yeah I mean it could be something horrible like a rat trap or something, you know what I mean [laughs]
[laughs] Yeah. Like cockroach extermination supplies or something.
Exactly âZFG Exterminationsâ. I mean youâre on the-
You know what, weâre going to start a whole empire of all these weird shit.
[laughs] ZFG Rat Traps. ZFG Butt Plugs. ZFG everything. I think you should make a series of â
ZFG Tarmacking equipment. Weâre going to help with people tarmac the road. Itâs done. Itâs going to be great.
ZFG Roofers. Itâll be great.
That is my last question. Enjoy your trip, take a lot of naps and have a good time.
Thank you so much for taking the time to question me, itâs very fun!
ZFG w/ Adeltias Way âWhat it Takesâ Tour Dates:
4/17 Houston, TX @ Warehouse Live
4/19 Austin, TX @ Come and Take it Live
4/20 Dallas, TX @ Gas Monkey
4/24 Heath, OH @ Muddy Creek Saloon
4/26 Tucson, AZ @ Pima County Fair
4/27 Easton, PA @ One Centre Square
4/28 Buffalo, NY @ Iron Works
5/1 Pittsburgh, PA @ Crafthouse
5/2 Flint, MI @ Machine Shop
5/3 Battle Creek, MI @ Music Factory
5/4 Joliet, IL @ The Forge
5/5 Madison, WI @ Majestic Theater
5/8 Chippewa Falls, WI @ Every Buddys
5/9 Minneapolis, MN @ Fine Line
5/10 Lincoln, NE @ Bourbon Theatre
5/11 Denver, CO @ Marquis
5/12 Colorado Springs, CO @ Black Sheep
ZFG w/ The Winery Dogs âWho Let The Dogs Outâ Tour:
5/25 Las Vegas, NV â Vampâd
5/28 Sacramento, CA â Crest Theater
5/29 Santa Cruz, CA â Rio Theater
5/30 Anaheim, CA â The Grove
5/31 Beverly Hills, CA â Saban Theatre
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INDIE BAND OF THE WEEK: ZFG was originally published on RockRevolt Mag