EPILOGUE [of the Pushed Back report by PROASYL available here]
In lieu of a conclusion we will present a complete interview which entails almost all of the findings relevant to push backs presented in this report, as experienced by two European (French) journalists.
C.B. (journalist), O.J. (photojournalist) / pushed back from Samos 28.7.13
C.: We are working for a magazine and we had been following some Afghan refugees from Afghanistan, for about two months. We were following them, posing as Afghans, so we didn’t show our identities to almost anyone. We went on a zodiac, an inflatable boat with 28 refugees, mostly Afghans and Iranians.
O.: There were two women and no children.
C.:We tried to go from Kusadasi in Turkey, to Samos island. We took this boat late at night, the smugglers were actually only putting the boat in the water. Then we jumped inside and they left. It was one of the passengers who was sailing and we went all the way towards Samos. It’s about 15km away from the (Turkish) coasts. And after approximately 2-3 hours we arrived.
C.: We were for two hours on the boat, which was quite crowded and the engine was small, when a Greek coastguards came. They started shouting at us, they told us not to move in broken English. Then, they threw a rope to tie the inflatable boat to their own patrol boat. It was a white and a grey boat that was not too big. It’s quite a small one and it had a back stand where you could walk. And then, you could walk on the ladder, on the back of the boat.
O.: When they arrested us, we were close to the island of Samos. We could see it, we were really close to it, I would say, maybe at 1km.
C.: They were wearing uniforms and black masks. Black uniforms.
O.: Just one guy was not wearing a mask. He looked like an officer.
C.: We could not tell if they were officers or not. One was speaking English. His face was uncovered.
O.: He was saying ‘Don’t cut the rope or we’ll kill you’.
C.: They had guns, they pointed at us, those in black uniforms. But they weren’t pistols. They were big guns (she showed with her hands extended how big these guns were, ed.). They pointed their guns at us and they shouted quite angrily, that if we cut the rope, they would kill us and then refugees climbed one by one from the ladder up on their vessel. Refugees had to kneel down with their hands behind their neck and those who didn’t do it, were punched and kicked. They kept us for about an hour. They tied the zodiac onto their vessel and started leaving the area with their own vessel. We didn’t say we were journalists, they didn’t see us as journalists. They thought we were Afghans. And then they said they didn’t have time to take care of us and that a white big boat would come and take us to Samos island. Then they asked the migrants to get off the vessel one by one and get back onto the zodiac. And when it was done, they untied the boat. They shouted ‘Welcome to Greece’ and they left towards another direction. When we got back into the inflatable boat, the engine was gone. We were left adrift. And we didn’t know what to do, the refugees tried to use their mobiles.
O.: I think that he (the one without mask) is the same one who said ‘Welcome to Greece’, the one that spoke English.
C.: I saw on my mobile, that there was Greek network connection and after about one hour?
C.: After one hour or two, it’s not very clear, a white vessel came, but it was a Turkish one and so the Greek coastguards had pushed us back into the Turkish waters and the Turkish gendarmerie rescued everyone and took us to the shore. The Turks arrested us, they counted everyone, so we waited in the boat, until they took the refugees and they recognized that we are foreigners, journalists. They took everyone to the police station. Downstairs, on the basement there was sort of a jail. On one side there were the men and it was very crowded. On the women’s section, we were just three women and it was quiet. We were interrogated for a while, for more than two hours. They fingerprinted us and took photos and then they detained us for three days. They did what they could to proceed faster with us, in order to expel us, to deport us. And the refugees that were with us, the ones we had been following, after 15 in Aydin’s detention, on the 18 of August 2013 were deported to Afghanistan. They had no access to any lawyer.
O.: Not all passengers from our boat were deported. From the five guys we were together, three were deported and two weren’t as they said they were minors. So they transferred them to a specific camp for minors, it was an open one and after two weeks they left from there. We were arrested for leaving Turkey illegally. It was easier to deport us, because we were able to buy our own ticket, this made the procedure faster. And since we are journalists, they tried to do it as quick as possible.