#helluva standom

Imagine being someone who works in the industry, saying your piece without naming names, but being painfully clear about who the perpetrator is, and getting harassed up and down over something that's practically common knowledge at this point

Edit:

This is Viv straight up saying they outsource....instead of just....hiring newer talent seeking work in the indie space. She has helped in making the indie community similar to that of the bigger guys using tf outta the smaller guys only to cut corners to lower profits anyway and laying off a shit ton of people. On top of that, she straight up deflects and ignores the blatant obvious point made by the video maker, acting as if they're saying she has 400+ working consistently on her show when the point is that they be burning through people like lint to a scorching flame:

But yeah, sure, "Misinformation". So "Indie" guys....

2nd Edit:

I am so so so sorry you are going through this. Fan or not, no one should be going through this for simply relating to a character for going through similar situations as Octavia. You are a person first and deserve to be respected and understood considering the pains you are dealing with.

My words may not hold much weight, but please hang on and take as much time as you need to recover from all of this. You deserve to be loved, and you are seen, and I hope you manage to find solace and eventually escape from such a toxic environment! ✨️✨️✨️

like i get your points and all, but people like that is why most fans dont listen to you guys, anti viv people have a habit of telling us to kill ourselves because we consume the cartoon :/

Death threats are a no-go no matter which side any of you are on, I DO NOT want to see that shit in my presence, have some fucking self control guys.

But let's not get things twisted either. Some antis being this way is NOT why fans ignore proof. I have seen this fandom grow for 4 years and have researched into Viv's fanbase prior to HH. They've all been very protective of the content because that's what Viv has harbored for a while now. The only contribution they've added in is spreading misinformation here and there by a few people. I don't think you realize how long Viv has had a fanbase and has weaponized them for years. One of her old closest friend was called an *IT* and told to kill themselves which they nearly succeeded in doing thanks to her rabid fans back in 2014-2015, to which she responded with saying "Karma is awesome". So ion wanna see this "they tell us to kill ourselves" angle, I have seen this fanbase throw the same shit if not more + racism.

Keep in mind, despite them having talked it out and resolving everything, Viv still refers to them as abusive/an abuser even though multiple people have said it was just them disagreeing and not meeting eye to eye. She not only ruined someone's reputation but also lied on someone due to a disagreement, having her fans be absolutely abysmal toward them till this day.

This fanbase, VIV'S FANBASE, is toxic as shit. Do not frame it as if they needed valid reasons to ignore the issues with the creator, that is not the main reason why they've acted shitty multiple times. I do NOT wanna hear that nonsense, you could have simply kept it at those idiots that were treating you like bullies. Don't spin nothing on anyone when her fanbase [stans] chooses to be fucking dense.

And to those sending death threats, unfollow me and gtfo off my page. I don't condone stupidity nor do I wish to have anyone who thinks telling people to kill themselves is at all a sane and sensible reaction to a fucking disagreement. You don't lower your morals and standards all cause someone either said something right or wrong, have some gat damn sense. Seek help. You can not be against Vivziepop but then do anything SIMILAR to her or the like, that's just insanity to me.