What an understanding fanbase that can definitely take opposing opinions.
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What an understanding fanbase that can definitely take opposing opinions.

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The way that hh/hb fans describes the shows feels like they're watching completely different shows entirely since they'll claim how hh and hb are well written masterpieces and then you watch the actual shows, it's just the absolute immature written mediocre shows ever
Yea. Both shows are literal brain rot that rots their brains because Vivienne Medrano did NOT grow up and learn from her mistakes.
Wanna know whats funny to me?
its funny how the HH stans defend Valentino and get angry when you draw him getting killed or beaten up..
...but in the mouthwashing fandom, there are several pieces of art that depict Jimmy being beaten up and getting killed, but it gets praised
its literally day(mouthwashing fandom) and night(hellaverse fandom)
its just strange to me..
https://twitter.com/DomAnastasi/status/1821925272028938690?t=INK9L3aVNB00cNpFchDZDw&s=19
Imagine being someone who works in the industry, saying your piece without naming names, but being painfully clear about who the perpetrator is, and getting harassed up and down over something that's practically common knowledge at this point
Edit:
This is Viv straight up saying they outsource....instead of just....hiring newer talent seeking work in the indie space. She has helped in making the indie community similar to that of the bigger guys using tf outta the smaller guys only to cut corners to lower profits anyway and laying off a shit ton of people. On top of that, she straight up deflects and ignores the blatant obvious point made by the video maker, acting as if they're saying she has 400+ working consistently on her show when the point is that they be burning through people like lint to a scorching flame:
But yeah, sure, "Misinformation". So "Indie" guys....
2nd Edit:
Viv blocked them, and her fans have caused them to soon delete their thread. And despite KNOWING they are being harassed by her ratchet ass fans, she says absolutely nothing. Typical. Can't forget her completely ignoring what happened to Shay afterall....
Am i misremembering or didnt people freak out when people would literally just say word for word βi want val dead/ i wanna kill valβ like full on val stans went on rants telling people not to say that and people got pissed when you would say you wanted val dead
but suddenly when it comes to stuff like the print suddenly βits ok because its fictionβ
like?????? am i going crazy?????
No no no! You are correct. People mass reported the person who made a boondocks joke.π€¦π½ββοΈ
Also, Elcee Jumpscare

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This is literal cult behavior right there.
Oh, the misery....
Y'all just hate to see a bisexual woman that got her start on the internet succeeding
If her being bisexual is enough for you to ignore her being nasty to several people, I'd suggest working on yourself before you try backing a complete stranger. πββοΈ