If in Double Entry, FV Adam is actually a sweetheart. He's weary of everything, but trusts Alastor as the first man. He treats Lilith with kindness. Until she treats him as less than, and he decides not to bother with even being near her. He's not sexist, or bigoted. Yes, God told him men were above women. That men lead and women follow. But he's taking a page from Alastor's behavior.

Because God loves Alastor.

Because Alastor is easy to love.

Because the true First Man is someone to admire and look up to.

Because Alastor is perfect.

When Lilith falls, Adam is worried about what that means for Alastor. The man just lost his life partner. To a Fallen Angel, of all things!!!

And maybe it's just the two of them for a while, until God asks Adam for his rib. He knows that Alastor gave his teeth to make the Guardian Angels he views as daughters. But God said that this was so Adam had a life partner too. Adam isn't sure why he can't be Alastor's life partner, but figured they could share Eve. And Eve is loved by her husband. And they both love Alastor.

Eve still is haunted by the memory of Alastor taking a bite of the Apple. Saying that the Garden wasn't where he wanted to be. He wanted to explore Earth, God's creation they were meant to inherit. And though he was angry, God understood.

Adam did not.

This is what started his downward spiral.

-

Alastor's Soul couldn't be located in the cycle of rebirth. After hundreds of thousands of years, Alastor was able to conceal when he was reincarnated. Pushing Adam even further into destructive tendencies. The Angels could understand.

They all blamed Lucifer, as well. Even though the Fallen had seemed to have no clue and had been devastated at the news of the missing Soul.

Adam pushed harder for Exterminations, until finally Sera gave in. Seven years of permanently ending the Souls of Sinners had Adam feeling vindicated. The princess talking about redemption made him laugh.

It wasn't until he was face to face against Alastor did he feel regret.

(There's the question of did Adam try to talk to Alastor upon realizing who he was? Or did he realize that Alastor, in all his stubborn glory, wouldn't come easily, and decided to just beat down the 'First Man'?)

I was actually going to have F!Adam as the good version, compared to the asshole Mother/Canon version! Then I changed my mind lol

Adam knowing that, to make humanity, you need a Man and a Woman, and figuring he and Eve and Maybe Alastor with Eve can do that, and all of them can be Life Partners Together! Eve is all for this! The Second Humans invent Polyamory!

Alastor: I'm so glad this Adam is a different one to the one who killed me, he's a good child, he and Eve are very in love, they've started making progress and Eve is even pregnant!

Okay, time to leave the Garden.

Father understands his son wanting to strike out on his own (and invent and explore and create, like Him).

Adam doesn't. What's wrong with the Garden?

Lucifer shows up. Adam and Eve are tricked and tempted.

They leave the Garden, and find Alastor, waiting for them, and for a while, they are happy.

But then they die, and while THEY go to Heaven - Alastor didn't. He's not in Hell.

(Is it because he was the First to Eat the Apple? They wonder. Well, Eve wonders. Adam blames Lucifer.)

Adam is only kept back by his wife and Children, but as time passes, he comes up with the idea of Exterminations. To punish Hell, and the couple that destroyed Alastor's soul (he thinks).

And then he sees Alastor again. And he's a SINNER.

Based on your answers to Asks regarding this topic, Early Father!Lucifer will not have his wings back for a while but considering he’ll be sneaking into Eden in snake form it shouldn’t really matter until he reveals himself.

If Early Fatherverse Alastor, Lilith and Lucifer gets dropped into Canon, I’m thinking Magne will be in the form of a large white snake and his preferred perch is DE!Alastor.

DE!Alastor is not comfortable with Magne curling around the naked body of F!Lilith and F!Lilith doesn’t like the snake for not bowing and submitting to her like all the other animals they came across.

So when they meet Canon, the Canon Crew watches as DE!Alastor pet Magne who is curled around his body while F!Lilith glares at the snake for taking her husband’s attention.

You are absolutely right! They show up and Lilith's nudity is covered by her hair while Alastor's is covered by Magne Snake - Literally everyone realises the snake is their universes Lucifer because of the top hat lol, but they can't say anything.

Double Entry Addy deciding it's easier to not have to differentiate between the two by being female presenting in both: Hey Lilly!!! Hey Lulu!!! 👋💃

Vox thinking he's super straight and loudly questioning how a man could stand to get bitched by another man. Only for Addy to look him dead in the eyes and reveal she's a trans woman. (And that's how he gets into Futa and Futanari. Very different sexual awakening than his last go around, but he still comes up realizing he's bisexual.)

Also, Father verse going, "These are rules for everyone!!! Except my baby! 💗 🥚 ✨"

Addy, hiding: this is such a good plan they will never know its me!

Magne!Lucilith: *fall in love with and end up obsessing over Addy as much as they do Alastor.*

Addy: shit.

Morningstar!Lucilith, meeting Addy: It's a good thing we already knew we were Bi/Pan respectively, or this could cause sexuality crisises!

Vox: *having that sexuality crisis.*

Father: I still believe in Man over Woman because Hierarchy is important and I'M a Man - but Alastor is the only other being like me, my only child, and so while it is Man over Woman it is also Alastor (in any form or gender presentation) over Man. This will not cause any problems!

Men: *not knowing that and being sexist to Addy*

If Early Fatherverse Lucifer and Lilith were teleported into Season 2, I can’t really see them getting along with anyone except maybe Canon!Alastor.

F!Lilith would be super clingy and hates Charlie and Canon!Lucifer and F!Lucifer. (I like the Morningstars suffering)

Canon!Alastor realises her mentality is similar to a child and tolerates her clinginess more than F!Lucifer.

(DE!Alastor is not there because he’ll be the one to inform Father about Lilith’s disappearance)

Ooh yes - okay question one here is Lucifer here as Lucifer or as a snake hiding in the garden? With DE!Alastor not there, Lilith would be going nutso and be VERY upset and she would be clinging HARD to canon!Alastor who, like DE!Alastor, immediately clocks her as an upset child and proceeds to treat her as one and just...ignores the nudity and hot body.

(I, too, like her not liking Charlie or canon!Lucifer and that making them suffer!)

Charlie gets upset and shouts at Alastor for stealing her mother and he looks at her with disgust and then asks F!Lilith how old she is. She answers three days and he turns and raises an eyebrow at Charlie.

"She's not your mother, despite how she looks. She is a CHILD. Be more mature, Charlie, you are the elder one here."

Now, if Lucifer Magne is there as himself and not a snake - he is trying to seduce Lilith and canon!Alastor and disgusted by his other self and - this is all happening in season 2 with Vox being there and smearing the hotel.

Alastor still wants to be free. Alastor...still gets himself captured.

Lucifer Magne CAN, very much, hurt sinners.

Alastor eventually has to die. That's just what is going to happen as a fact of life. But no one can find his Soul, the usual shtick. He's reincarnated after Father, essentially, goes into a depression nap. (Lucifer got it from someone.) And Alastor makes sure his Soul goes to Hell. Mainly cause he's a nosey bitch, but partly because of Lilith and Charlie.

The AU is that Alastor becomes the Media Demon from @that-hazbin and becomes the Hope of Hell. Except, either:

He meets Charlie when she's sneaking away from her parents and he sees only her there at the opera house (still not knowing who she is since she is disguised as an Imp/Succubus Hybrid).

Or, Alastor is wearing a mask and some sigils to block off the frequency of his Soul. So that the royals don't immediately know that he's the Original First Man.

It's hilarious if, with both scenarios, they assume he found out about Charlie and decided to dad her. Because she's Lilith's child. And maybe, when in Eden, and he was saying to her that if she had a child not from him? He would treat said child as his own. He was talking about Adam, yes. But he promised he'd protect and support her children. That they would be his in all but Blood. And Alastor always tries to keep his word.

And Lucifer, this version who was definitely living up to his title as The Devil, sees the beauty Alastor brought to Hell. The wonder. Free Will expressed every where, from the building to the pavements. The restaurants to the theaters. Gardens and music and light and joy and-!

How the Sinners of Earth refused the idea of Redemption because they saw Hell as worth more than Heaven.

Lucifer becomes covetous before finding out that this human is Alastor. After he, and Lilith, find out? He's practically feral. He finally has his two humans, both in Hell, ruling over and making HIS kingdom better. All he needs to do is woo Alastor and get the, now, Demon to his Nest and everything will be perfect! He's already parenting Charlie. He's made the Sinners reject their Creator.

Perhaps the reveal is when Charlie accidentally reveals herself to be the Imp/Succubus Hybrid singer he hired and turned into a pop star, when Alastor comes to the Hotel? Like, he decides that, because she reveals herself -and he's essentially been parenting Charlie for 40 (or less) of the 80 ish years he's lived in Hell- he takes off his Sigils and/or Mask to reveal himself. And that's how the Royal couple eventually finds out that them comparing this man to their Alastor was because he was, indeed, their Alastor.

But, from the perspective of everyone else? Alastor has no memories of being the First Man. (He does, he just doesn't think it matters much and doesn't want to be expected to either remember everything or wants to catch people off guard. It's always good to have a metaphorical ace in the pocket.)

Ooh, media demon father!Alastor!!! I like it!

And the idea of Alastor remembering being the First Man, and hiding it and using the fact that people think he doesn't remember to his advantage, is FUN - but so is him NOT remembering, and only remembering his life as Alastor, cause then he gets to be taken by surprise at how different this hell, and this Lucifer, is...

And I think he wouldn't need a mask, because his skin is a different shade, his eyes are different, his hair is different, his TEETH are different...

And I can absolutely see Lucifer wanting Alastor before even realising who he is! And when he DOES...

Alastor might well have to deal with being kidnapped lol.

And that's with him going by the name Alastor, and Lilith normally killing anyone who does that, because she would hear his name, be furious, go to make him CHANGE IT (or kill him) and find - him.

Here it is!

I also posted the other version, but I don't want to clutter the ask too much :_)

Double Entry Addy with @ that-hazbin Media Demon AU.

But the way I put it in that other ask from before where Lilith and Lucifer don't meet Addy in the Father verse until the Hotel. (Mother verse gets the immediate reunion, without knowing who the other parties are since they are all in disguise. Once the Royals reveal themselves, there's going to be crying.)

FV Lilith is trying to find the Demon who put Hell together so well and gauge if they are actually trying to usurp the royals as the rest of the Sinners want her too. But the Media Demon keeps getting away!

FV Lucifer hears that the Media Demon is backing Charlie for the Hotel and comes to see what she's planning. Only- only that lady reminds him so much of Alastor. She acts like him, talks like him, moves like him, looks like him.

It had been forever since the First Man's Soul was lost. Maybe it was because they kept looking for a man, not a woman? And, for all intents and purposes, it seems she has no memories of being anyone else.

Oh there is absolutely going to be crying once the royal reveal themselves, cause when they do Alastor will reveal who Addy really is and there will be hugs and possibly kisses.

But Fatherverse! Fatherverse are the ones Alastor is actually hiding from, so he's taking care to never so much as HINT that Addy might be Alastor - but even then, the moment they meet her, they are seeing the similiarities, and Lilith especially is absolutely worried about a coup - until we know why Lilith is in heaven I tend to think Pilot!Lilith isn't, so she'd go with Lucifer to their daughters silly new pet project when they find out the media demon is backing it, worrying she's planning something - and then they meet her and she's so similar to Alastor...

Lucifer is the first one to suggest reincarnation, since its not normally a thing that happens (souls either go to heaven or hell) and the notion that Alastor may have FORGOTTEN HER is one Lilith is VERY UPSET BY (not the gender change, she's fine with that, she is INTO that, she is very Bi) so they are going to hang around and try and make Addy remember being Alastor!

Remember that AU of Double Entry where FV!Adam used to be a sweetheart and when Alastor’s soul disappeared everyone blamed Magne?

What if when they get reunited with Alastor, they can “see” roots/Roo’s magical fingerprints on Alastor and realise who the real culprit taking Alastor away was?